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IntelliVolume · 09-17-2018, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

So the impression I'm getting from that video is that the color scheme on the 35th and UHD is essentially the same except the 35th looks more saturated.

Far from an ideal comparison but I was expecting the UHD to look like the 35th with more saturation. Not the other way round.

Can't wait to get hold of the disc so I can see what it actually looks like.

...and still the original Starz!/Anchor Bay Blu looks more heavily saturated in color than both; that always brings me back to the color timing hack that was done on Anchor Bay's DiviMax transfer of this film (I like other DiviMax transfers in the collection, though, including Dawn of the Dead).

ROSS.T.G. · 09-17-2018, 09:48 PM

The colours look better to me, when I look outside on a fall day grass doesn’t glow. If DV has shown us anything it’s that colour looks much more realistic compared to BD. I’m really excited for this. Tuesday will be a big haul for me.

IntelliVolume · 09-17-2018, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

The colours look better to me, when I look outside on a fall day grass doesn’t glow. If DV has shown us anything it’s that colour looks much more realistic compared to BD. I’m really excited for this. Tuesday will be a big haul for me.

I agree about the grass and foliage (and let's not get into the whole "they didn't hide that palm tree in the background because they were shooting in sunny California!" debacle here), and it's one of the things that kept me going back to the THX DVD; the Anchor Bay/Starz! original Blu-ray release pushed too much "vivid" coloring throughout the transfer, and had other issues (too much video/ISO sensor noise in some sequences).

I hope you enjoy the release on your OLED; I will eventually get this to play on my Samsung 8 Series.

StingingVelvet · 09-17-2018, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tehthomas

I'm not trolling... I love Psycho... but what would the benefit of 4K UHD/HDR be for Psycho or for B&W movies in general?
Can someone enlighten me cause I feel the upgrades are for color.

One of HDR's biggest upgrades is in contrast and depth to the picture, so I definitely think it could benefit black and white movies if used correctly. The only example we have is Logan though, and I thought it sucked there.

ROSS.T.G. · 09-17-2018, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

I agree about the grass and foliage (and let's not get into the whole "they didn't hide that palm tree in the background because they were shooting in sunny California!" debacle here), and it's one of the things that kept me going back to the THX DVD; the Anchor Bay/Starz! original Blu-ray release pushed too much "vivid" coloring throughout the transfer, and had other issues (too much video/ISO sensor noise in some sequences).

I hope you enjoy the release on your OLED; I will eventually get this to play on my Samsung 8 Series.

Guess we’ll find out soon enough, just a week away.

I always enjoy my OLED

IntelliVolume · 09-17-2018, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

Guess we’ll find out soon enough, just a week away.

Wish I could participate in the joyous occasion.

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I always enjoy my OLED

Was just sayin...

grodd · 09-17-2018, 10:17 PM

He says the Mono is the same as the box set at 1:33.

nekromantik · 09-17-2018, 10:19 PM

It sucks that this is getting DV on disc but not Christine!
Hopefully wowhd ship this early.

edit from the above review the color for the SDR video looks similar to the pallete I saw at the 40th anniversary restoration screening at FrightFest.
So im happy!

PowellPressburger · 09-17-2018, 10:39 PM

Took a screen grab from the above Video clip

Sadly the MONO is DVD quality Dolby Digital

NO ATMOS track

Only the previous Dolby TRUE HD 7.1 Mix

Lionsgate had plenty of disc space for an ATMOS upgrade and also a PCM MONO track to the fact they are going for DD Mono is just cheap.

hall.jpg

MechaGodzilla · 09-17-2018, 10:50 PM

I'm just grateful we're getting it at all, and lossy can sound just fine to my ears. I'm no hardcore audiophile, granted.

IntelliVolume · 09-17-2018, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

I'm just grateful we're getting it at all, and lossy can sound just fine to my ears. I'm no hardcore audiophile, granted.

Lossy audio is still indeed fine, especially when running at higher bitrates on Blu-rays. I'm sure the "lossy" mono track is going to be satisfying for purists.

There are plenty of Blus I have demo'ed (and own) that contain Dolby Digital 5.1 tracks and they sound fantastic -- most rentals of Lionsgate Blu-rays from Redbox, the Michael Clayton BD (okay, that one is not really an aggressive example of a mix), the first BD release of Superman Returns...

HAL9K · 09-17-2018, 10:59 PM

Oh how I wish they had used a slightly modified version of the 1999 THX dvd color timings. Somewhere between that and the 35th version would have been perfection imo, with just a slight lean towards the 1999. I don't like how all of the trees are pure green in the day time outdoor shots of the 35th (and apparently also the 4K). It just doesn't feel very "Halloween" time to me when there's no yellow, orange, brown leaves on the trees & I feel it really adds to the atmosphere. Even then, the night scenes on the THX were better also. The 35th was stripped of some of the blue. Like I said, a nice mix between them would have been amazing.

Top = 35th, Middle = 2007, Bottom = fan "restoration" to "match" the THX DVD. I want the bottom, but with the detail of the top. The fall colors look outstanding, but the clouds are completely washed out.

grodd · 09-17-2018, 11:06 PM

I think we'll just wait and see if its lossy or not. Sometimes those things are wrong.

Noremac Mij · 09-17-2018, 11:44 PM

True lossless is better, but it’s still nice to have at least a lossy track. And I give respect for Lionsgate in labeling it as such.

80%, if not more, of Scream!’s releases had lossy tracks in DTD-MA containers and no one complained. How many of you are certain that the “lossy” track in the Blu-ray boxset was actually lossy?

lilboyblu · 09-18-2018, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

True lossless is better, but it’s still nice to have at least a lossy track. And I give respect for Lionsgate in labeling it as such.

80%, if not more, of Scream!’s releases had lossy tracks in DTD-MA containers and no one complained. How many of you are certain that the “lossy” track in the Blu-ray boxset was actually lossy?

Everyone is certain. It was verified across multiple reviews/sites and is labeled that way right in the specs. Also, the lossless mono on The 35th Anniversary is a fold down of the 7.1 mix. It’s not the original.

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English: Dolby Digital Mono (Original)

Noremac Mij · 09-18-2018, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by lilboyblu

Everyone is certain. It was verified across multiple reviews/sites and is labeled that way right in the specs. Also, the lossless mono on The 35th Anniversary is a fold down of the 7.1 mix. It’s not the original.

How would that be verified? I would really like to know for my own information.

Geoff D · 09-18-2018, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

One of HDR's biggest upgrades is in contrast and depth to the picture, so I definitely think it could benefit black and white movies if used correctly. The only example we have is Logan though, and I thought it sucked there.

Me too, wasn't impressed with Logan Noir in 4K at all. But if you take a UHD of something that was made with high contrast and deep blacks and turn the colour all the way down then you can see how striking B&W content could look in HDR.

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Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

I'm just grateful we're getting it at all, and lossy can sound just fine to my ears. I'm no hardcore audiophile, granted.

Watch it be 192 kb/s, but as long as it's the true mono and not the downmix ported over then I'll still take it.

PowellPressburger · 09-18-2018, 01:48 AM

Didnt they do replacement discs of the fold down issue and do one with the true original mono mix? Or am I thinking of some other title?

Croweyes1121 · 09-18-2018, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HAL9K

I want the bottom, but with the detail of the top.

This exists as a fanedit. It’s also the basis for my own edit.

birdztudio · 09-18-2018, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

I'm just grateful we're getting it at all, and lossy can sound just fine to my ears. I'm no hardcore audiophile, granted.

totally agreed, and with 1978 film, dolby audio would be suffice... (not that i don't want lossless though)

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09-17-2018, 10:19 PM	#988
nekromantik Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Bristol, UK Home Theater Gallery:4 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:549	It sucks that this is getting DV on disc but not Christine! Hopefully wowhd ship this early. edit from the above review the color for the SDR video looks similar to the pallete I saw at the 40th anniversary restoration screening at FrightFest. So im happy! Last edited by nekromantik; 09-17-2018 at 10:23 PM.

09-17-2018, 10:59 PM	#992
HAL9K Active Member Member since:Apr 2014	Oh how I wish they had used a slightly modified version of the 1999 THX dvd color timings. Somewhere between that and the 35th version would have been perfection imo, with just a slight lean towards the 1999. I don't like how all of the trees are pure green in the day time outdoor shots of the 35th (and apparently also the 4K). It just doesn't feel very "Halloween" time to me when there's no yellow, orange, brown leaves on the trees & I feel it really adds to the atmosphere. Even then, the night scenes on the THX were better also. The 35th was stripped of some of the blue. Like I said, a nice mix between them would have been amazing. Top = 35th, Middle = 2007, Bottom = fan "restoration" to "match" the THX DVD. I want the bottom, but with the detail of the top. The fall colors look outstanding, but the clouds are completely washed out. Last edited by HAL9K; 09-17-2018 at 11:43 PM.

09-17-2018, 09:48 PM	#982
ROSS.T.G. Blu-ray Champion Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Ontario, Canada 4K collection:393 Blu-ray collection:1549 Blu-ray reviews:16	The colours look better to me, when I look outside on a fall day grass doesn’t glow. If DV has shown us anything it’s that colour looks much more realistic compared to BD. I’m really excited for this. Tuesday will be a big haul for me.

09-17-2018, 10:39 PM	#989
PowellPressburger Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:DIFFERENT PLACES! Minneapolis 4K collection:991 Blu-ray collection:3676 DVD collection:359 Blu-ray reviews: 51 Trading Score:297	Took a screen grab from the above Video clip Sadly the MONO is DVD quality Dolby Digital NO ATMOS track Only the previous Dolby TRUE HD 7.1 Mix Lionsgate had plenty of disc space for an ATMOS upgrade and also a PCM MONO track to the fact they are going for DD Mono is just cheap. hall.jpg

09-17-2018, 10:50 PM	#990
MechaGodzilla Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Sep 2012 Location:Sweden 4K collection:96 Blu-ray collection:660 DVD collection:234	I'm just grateful we're getting it at all, and lossy can sound just fine to my ears. I'm no hardcore audiophile, granted.

09-17-2018, 11:06 PM	#993
grodd Power Member Member since:Sep 2011 Location:Northern CA Trading Score:3	I think we'll just wait and see if its lossy or not. Sometimes those things are wrong.

09-17-2018, 11:44 PM	#994
Noremac Mij Banned Member since:Aug 2018 4K collection:80 Blu-ray collection:80	True lossless is better, but it’s still nice to have at least a lossy track. And I give respect for Lionsgate in labeling it as such. 80%, if not more, of Scream!’s releases had lossy tracks in DTD-MA containers and no one complained. How many of you are certain that the “lossy” track in the Blu-ray boxset was actually lossy?

09-18-2018, 01:48 AM	#998
PowellPressburger Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:DIFFERENT PLACES! Minneapolis 4K collection:991 Blu-ray collection:3676 DVD collection:359 Blu-ray reviews: 51 Trading Score:297	Didnt they do replacement discs of the fold down issue and do one with the true original mono mix? Or am I thinking of some other title?

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