Bram Stoker's Dracula 4K UHD (1992) (25th Anniversary Edition)

[OutOfBoose]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

There's no excuse to ever have black crush regardless of format, but the UHD is still better off in that respect than the Mi4K BD.

There is, actually. SDR is limited and if you want image to have less flat appearance, you will have to sacrifice some highlight and shadow information. Unless you want people to play with gamma each time they load a disc. With HDR you can achieve that without sacrificing anything. Hence there's no excuse. Now, in case of Dracula, I don't know if it's intended, incompetence or something overlooked, but theoretically it's what it is.

[Geoff D]

Black is black no matter if it's SDR or HDR. I've got loads of SDR discs that look just fine without having the blacks crushed to shit.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Black is black no matter if it's SDR or HDR. I've got loads of SDR discs that look just fine without having the blacks crushed to shit.

OutOfBoose is not wrong that SDR grading is all about compromise to squeeze 10 lbs. of contrast into a 5 lb. bag and one very effective tool for doing that is raising the black level. I'm not saying it's my preferred approach, but... you can raise the blacks and you can lower the whites and... not a whole lot else.

[Geoff D]

I didn't say they couldn't contrast boost it to heck if they wanted to, it's been a time-honoured tradition for SDR (and black crush is employed on HDR grading more often than people think, Skyfall is downright nasty for it), but I've got plenty of SDR discs that don't look 'flat' in the least despite them not having the black crushed to all get out.

More often than not it's the new restorations from the indies that show how good 1080p can still look because they're doing them with SDR in mind and are properly grading them with skill and nuance, unlike the studios who seem to be doing them all in HDR first and then just crap out a quick SDR trim pass.

[Member-425016]

Originally Posted by jh901

Which panel display?

Panasonic UB9000/ Sony Z9D.

[zen007]

May not be considered as a reference but this is one of the discs, along with likes of Suspiria, that give me joy

[fatboy1111]

Did this ever come with slipcover?

[zen007]

Originally Posted by fatboy1111

Did this ever come with slipcover?

I got this last year iirc from BB and it has a slipcover

[Schism213]

This one is one of the grail 4K slips currently. Long OOP and elusive.

Originally Posted by fatboy1111

Did this ever come with slipcover?

[bradnoyes]

There’s definitely one in the landfill where my garbage is dumped if anyone is feeling lucky.

[Blu-21]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

More often than not it's the new restorations from the indies that show how good 1080p can still look because they're doing them with SDR in mind and are properly grading them with skill and nuance, unlike the studios who seem to be doing them all in HDR first and then just crap out a quick SDR trim pass.

The studios would like to have us believe that HDR/UHD is just that much better next to SDR/Blu-Ray when the same remaster was used for both but the truth is it wasn't that long ago that studios were grading BD just as good as what indies continue to do today. I guess it has to do with convenience and profit margins as to why the SDR pass on the Blu gets so little care.

[Schism213]

Originally Posted by bradnoyes

there’s definitely one in the landfill where my garbage is dumped if anyone is feeling lucky.

unlimited power

[RockyIII]

Keanu Reeves stole the spotlight in this one playing a british role

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Blu-21

The studios would like to have us believe that HDR/UHD is just that much better next to SDR/Blu-Ray when the same remaster was used for both but the truth is it wasn't that long ago that studios were grading BD just as good as what indies continue to do today. I guess it has to do with convenience and profit margins as to why the SDR pass on the Blu gets so little care.

There's some truth to that for sure but I think they've been doing SDR a disservice for a while, like well before HDR came along. It seems like new movies finished on DIs tended to get a very lazy trim pass for the consumer 709 version, often relying far too heavily on a blanket colour tint to make it 'pop'.

[PissedOffPeoN]

Originally Posted by Schism213

This one is one of the grail 4K slips currently. Long OOP and elusive.

Ya mine got one near Halloween in 2017 :O.

[sfmarine]

Originally Posted by fatboy1111

Did this ever come with slipcover?

It's funny how this slip is super rare now but so was the Dracula Blu-ray that was released in '07. That was super rare as well...I actually still have mine. I would say the rarest 4k slip is the lenticular of The Shallows....which I also have.

[Geoff D]

I have the fancy slips for the UHDs of Drac and The Shallows. Come at me bros!

[Member-425016]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I have the fancy slips for the UHDs of Drac and The Shallows. Come at me bros!

I do too. I love the lenticular slip for The Shallows. Are these collectible or something? Why all the talk about slip covers?

[Neon Rabbit]

Not having ever owned this on anything besides DVD, what is it exactly that people don't like about the 2007 transfer besides being an older scan? I recently picked up a double feature containing the 2007 release of this bundled with Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, and I know this isn't considered to be the best release but it was cheaper than buying either of these films separately so I figured what the hell.

So, what is considered to be the best release of this PQ wise? Would it be a good idea to pick up the UHD as I see there has been some criticism of that as well?

[Member-425016]

Originally Posted by Neon Rabbit

Not having ever owned this on anything besides DVD, what is it exactly that people don't like about the 2007 transfer besides being an older scan? I recently picked up a double feature containing the 2007 release of this bundled with Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, and I know this isn't considered to be the best release but it was cheaper than buying either of these films separately so I figured what the hell.

So, what is considered to be the best release of this PQ wise? Would it be a good idea to pick up the UHD as I see there has been some criticism of that as well?

Unfortunately each home video version varies a great deal so you either have to sample and choose, or just be content with the version you have.

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