Thank you FOX - you saved me a lot of money

[SS316SRV]

Originally Posted by rucumn

Can somebody just ban him from this site? NOW

Why ban him. Because he doesn't like Blu-ray???!!!! Fine no skin off my back. Let him have his OWN opinions. The only trouble that has been caused is by the people throwing him under a bridge because they are scared about actually explaining why they like blu-ray. blurip may disagree with us (and me!) but we shouldn't ban him yet. Just because he doesn't agree with you doesn't make wrong. Grow up. Learn how to have an intelligent discussion.

[blurip]

Originally Posted by ani4ano

So why do you have an XBOX 360, you can't "back up" those games can you???

Open your mind

im not a gamer, i have the drive to play the movies on the computer, well this has been fun guys this has been taken as far as i can peace to you all

[The Don]

if anything, I would want Blu-ray because I can already get pirated HD DVD movies if I really wanted them without supporting the inferior format...

not saying that I would do that...but the fact that it's possible, it makes my decision even easier..

[The Don]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

Why ban him. Because he doesn't like Blu-ray???!!!! Fine no skin off my back. Let him have his OWN opinions. The only trouble that has been caused is by the people throwing him under a bridge because they are scared about actually explaining why they like blu-ray. blurip may disagree with us (and me!) but we shouldn't ban him yet. Just because he doesn't agree with you doesn't make wrong. Grow up. Learn how to have an intelligent discussion.

this isn't necessarily an open forum to support several formats...

this is a Blu-ray/PS3 site...

I wouldn't go to the HD DVD site trying to support BD, would I?......

...the answer is no...

the name of this site is named this for a reason....it's not HD-movies.com ....it's blu-ray.com ..

[rucumn]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

Why ban him. Because he doesn't like Blu-ray???!!!! Fine no skin off my back. Let him have his OWN opinions. The only trouble that has been caused is by the people throwing him under a bridge because they are scared about actually explaining why they like blu-ray. blurip may disagree with us (and me!) but we shouldn't ban him yet. Just because he doesn't agree with you doesn't make wrong. Grow up. Learn how to have an intelligent discussion.

Nothing wrong with an opinion, but it sounds like he'd wants to pirate Blu-ray dvd. Sure he has excuses as why he backs them up on his computer.bla bla bla. Just my opinion...

[BStecke]

Originally Posted by blurip

well i have to admit i had been supporting HD DVD at this point mainly due to price of the hardware, I was waiting for prices of Bluray drives to come down so i can support both formats. right now i use the X BOX 360 drive to play the HD DVD movies on my computer, i have purchased many HD DVDS and i backup the movies i own on my computer and play them from the HDD "i will not buy a disk i cant back up! ", which leads me to this, i was ready to jump in to Blu ray now that the prices have been coming down, but now that FOX is using BD + ( an anti consumer move) imo you want to make these new formats as consumer friendly as you can, not making it more difficult and i cant be supporting a format that i cant backup and that i dont have to worry whether or not my equipment will play back new movies. I really wanted to support Blu Ray but while i was waiting for the prices to come down i did get alot of negitive vibes about Blu Ray but not anything that would have stopped me from supporting them, up until now so once again thank you FOX you saved me alot of money, i buy alot of movies but they wont be Blu Ray's when will they learn its not HD DVD vs BLU RAY, but HD & Blu vs SD DVD

Who gives a shit? Like we need an explanation from every person who doesn't support Blu-ray for whatever stupid reason.

[ToonyLoons]

Originally Posted by blurip

im not a gamer, i have the drive to play the movies on the computer, well this has been fun guys this has been taken as far as i can peace to you all

As you can see blurip is not into useing things the way they are meant to be used. He is exploiting and taking advantage of what he can. The HD-DVD add-on for 360 is not meant to be a HD-DVD player without the 360. He has the hacks and software to use the add-on with his computer. Same with HD-DVD media. It is not meant to be copied or backed up, but someone found a crack and blurip is taking advantage of it.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by Banjo

If you own a copy of the movie. You are legally entitled to make a back-up copy for your own personal uses. It is not theft because there is no loss in the process. You are only protecting what you bought by making a copy of it in case something happens to the original copy.

This is (probably) true, as long as you just back up the disc (duplication), and don't remove the protection. The DMCA forbids Americans from removing the protection.

But, duplication is not possible with Blu-ray because the AACS implies the mandatory presence of ROM-Mark.

Gary

[cpgator]

I think it is a valid point to consider. I own several hundred DVDs and about 100 BD/HD-DVDs, and none are copies. Nothing ticks me off more than someone borrowing a DVD, and then finding out they burned a copy to keep.

However, there have been many times that I made a copy of a DVD - though not for backup. If I am traveling, I will copy several movies (either to disc or HDD) so I don't have to worry about the originals getting lost. And what about copying a movies to your ipod? What if you own the movie on BD, but are taking a trip and don't have a BD drive on your laptop? And what about copying them to a server? The prices of HDD have be dropping a lot, and a 1T HDD can be picked up for a few hundred $$. What do you think a 1T drive will cost in 5 yrs? Cheap.

The point is there are many reasons one might want to copy a movie that they purchased and own - and it sucks that we are losing the ability to do so.

[Frode]

cpgator - that's what mandatory managed copy is for.

[The Don]

Originally Posted by rucumn

Nothing wrong with an opinion, but it sounds like he'd wants to pirate Blu-ray dvd. Sure he has excuses as why he backs them up on his computer.bla bla bla. Just my opinion...

no, he clearly wants to pirate BD's ....he was just trying to dress his post up and dance around the word "pirating"...

[haushausman]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

Call off the dogs there buddy. Blurip is on notice right now, but he hasn't started any trouble yet. Let him prove what worth he has.

Trolls have little worth; expect for slaying with my mighty sword Sting! My blade glows blue, away with this troll before I have his head.

[ps3andlovinit]

Originally Posted by cpgator

and it sucks that we are losing the ability to do so.

How so? Since it has always required software programs that bypass the copy protection - and those programs have always been updated along the way .. so the only argument left is when or if that will happen for BD+...except ...

I'll bet a gazillion dollars blurip didn't wait until AACS had been broken before buying his 360 or HD-DVD add-on or if it HADN'T been broken it would have stopped him from buying them.

I raise my own ante to a bazillion instead

[Luis_A51]

Originally Posted by BStecke

Who gives a shit? Like we need an explanation from every person who doesn't support Blu-ray for whatever stupid reason.

LOL i like this post.

[haushausman]

This kid's a joke. Total troll. He can't afford $20 movies with his allowance so he pirates. Can't blame him really.... but you can for trolling.

He's like those thieves who robbed all of Target's Blu-ray; at least he knows quality when he sees it.

[Amel]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

He is not trolling. He has not once called blu-ray stupid. He has yet to insult us. He is merely making a point about his preferences. He hasn't tried to cause trouble, most of you are giving him trouble though. Cool out and listen to the man. Have a dialogue with him, we may all learn something.

right, he needs to have copies? what is this 1995?

this is the most stupid thread after the lousy "paramount announcement"

[Jack Torrance]

Originally Posted by blurip

well i have to admit i had been supporting HD DVD at this point mainly due to price of the hardware, I was waiting for prices of Bluray drives to come down so i can support both formats. right now i use the X BOX 360 drive to play the HD DVD movies on my computer, i have purchased many HD DVDS and i backup the movies i own on my computer and play them from the HDD "i will not buy a disk i cant back up! ", which leads me to this, i was ready to jump in to Blu ray now that the prices have been coming down, but now that FOX is using BD + ( an anti consumer move) imo you want to make these new formats as consumer friendly as you can, not making it more difficult and i cant be supporting a format that i cant backup and that i dont have to worry whether or not my equipment will play back new movies. I really wanted to support Blu Ray but while i was waiting for the prices to come down i did get alot of negitive vibes about Blu Ray but not anything that would have stopped me from supporting them, up until now so once again thank you FOX you saved me alot of money, i buy alot of movies but they wont be Blu Ray's when will they learn its not HD DVD vs BLU RAY, but HD & Blu vs SD DVD

Ugh. FUD FUD FUD FUD --

Mods, obvious hd-dvd trolling. Please ban.

[blukrank]

I dont even know to make copies of a movie on computer,and even if I did I would not do it.
Back in the 90's I use to record Laserdisc movies on to VHS tapes for some of my freinds-Was I breaking the law?

[Banjo]

Originally Posted by blukrank

I dont even know to make copies of a movie on computer,and even if I did I would not do it. Back in the 90's I use to record Laserdisc movies on to VHS tapes for some of my freinds-Was I breaking the law?

You made copies for your friends. So yes, you did break the law.

[Banjo]

Originally Posted by Amel

right, he needs to have copies? what is this 1995?

Some people like to be able to make copies and shrink them so they can put several movies on a single disc using the Divx/Xvid codec. I know a few people who do this and no, they don't upload them to the internet. It's illegal to break through the encryption layer that protects the files, but it's not illegal to extract the movie from a VHS, DVD, HD DVD, Blu-ray Disc, LaserDisc or any format.