Jason Bourne (2016)

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by jess1581

The absence of Tony Gilroy's pen in the script is noticeable, and hopefully he will return if and when a sixth Bourne film is made.

There seems to be zero chance of Gilroy returning. He had a very public falling out with Greengrass and Damon while making the third movie, and made the fourth movie on his own without them. This movie brought them back and he wasn't a part of it. I wouldn't expect to see him working with them again.

[idlebrain]

Originally Posted by James Luckard

There seems to be zero chance of Gilroy returning. He had a very public falling out with Greengrass and Damon while making the third movie, and made the fourth movie on his own without them. This movie brought them back and he wasn't a part of it. I wouldn't expect to see him working with them again.

I remember reading both Greengrass and Damon Made sarcastic comments about the existence of Legacy in Bourne universe during the JB pre-release promos. But then again anything can happen in film industry.

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by James Luckard

There seems to be zero chance of Gilroy returning. He had a very public falling out with Greengrass and Damon while making the third movie, and made the fourth movie on his own without them. This movie brought them back and he wasn't a part of it. I wouldn't expect to see him working with them again.

He's been too busy re-writing and ghost-directing all the Rogue One reshoots (40% of the film) to care about Bourne anymore.

[imsounoriginal]

The series doesn't need Gilroy anyway. The new movie proved that the franchise can continue with other people writing (though I worry about how repetitive the series may become, given how much Jason Bourne borrows structurally from Supremacy). But if Gilroy were to come back for a Legacy sequel, I'd be all for it. I liked Legacy, I want more of Renner and Weisz, and if Gilroy has a good idea for their next chapter, then I'll be there opening night.

[idlebrain]

As much as I liked this, Legacy showed some novelty in story and taking. I liked all the 5 but I will rank legacy over this.

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[goeagles5039]

I have the classified collection and will put Jason bourne in it. For the others that are doing that are you just adding the ultimate collection to the database since it is the same thing? otherwise you have to add the classified collection and Jason bourne separately.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by easyrider

Many thanks in advance!

I only watched it once on release day, so my memories are not super detailed, but I believe Vikander's character was

[Show spoiler]really out to help herself and get Tommy Lee Jones' character out of her way. She is revealed at the end to be a villain of sorts, who used Bourne to further her own ends. That is why many consider it a cliffhanger of sorts, as she will presumably get her comeuppance later on.

The social media angle

[Show spoiler]was just about the NSA using that fictional social media platform to spy on people. The founder of the problem, a fictional Zuckerberg basically, gets cold feet and tries to back out, leading to the events of the climax (which is only kind of coincidentally related to Bourne's journey, which is more about finding out more about his dad). One of the main criticisms of the film was that these two plots don't feel intertwined enough.

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[1924]

to continue the Bourne franchise, they really should ditch Greengrass. He's violently opposed to taking the material in a new direction, violently opposed to working with professional writers (he co-wrote the last film with his editor) and just keeps on remaking the second film in slightly different locations, and audiences have started to catch on. The trouble is Damon claims he won't keep on making them unless Greengrass stays.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by 1924

to continue the Bourne franchise, they really should ditch Greengrass. He's violently opposed to taking the material in a new direction, violently opposed to working with professional writers (he co-wrote the last film with his editor) and just keeps on remaking the second film in slightly different locations, and audiences have started to catch on. The trouble is Damon claims he won't keep on making them unless Greengrass stays.

To be fair, when you make a sequel that's a lot different people complain too. You can't please everyone, you're doomed either way unless you walk that perfect line of different and the same like James Bond somehow manages to.

[willh51]

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[biglou114]

Originally Posted by willh51

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[Scarriere]

I watched it tonight and liked it a lot!

[Daredevil666]

Watched it on Blu and liked it more than in the theaters.

The thing is I didn't expect Bourne to be continuing his journey like only 3 years instead of 9 had happened since the last film. I wanted Bourne to be involved in a different kind of adventure, a fresh start.

Now that this is out of the way, I enjoyed this continuation way more. Cassel is excellent and it's funny we're back now full circle as Bourne's first adversary was also french and called Castel.

[levcore]

Alicia Vikander is so rubbish in this, her character and performance. Such a dead weight for the movie to drag along. Annoying that if this continues, no doubt her character will return.

Mind you even Julia Stiles was more wooden than usual in this.

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by levcore

Alicia Vikander is so rubbish in this, her character and performance. Such a dead weight for the movie to drag along. Annoying that if this continues, no doubt her character will return.

Mind you even Julia Stiles was more wooden than usual in this.

Couldn't agree more. Every time we take this off the shelf to watch, I always say to my wife, "God, I can't stand her character...really slows down the friggin' film" when the Heather Lee character is on screen.

Further, as you hinted at, there's going to no doubt be more of her to come in future installments, given that we see the whole "you never try to double-cross Bourne" surprise ending at the finale in Washington.

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by HDvision

Watched it on Blu and liked it more than in the theaters.

The thing is I didn't expect Bourne to be continuing his journey like only 3 years instead of 9 had happened since the last film. I wanted Bourne to be involved in a different kind of adventure, a fresh start.

Now that this is out of the way, I enjoyed this continuation way more. Cassel is excellent and it's funny we're back now full circle as Bourne's first adversary was also french and called Castel.

I agree with pretty much everything you said, and must add that the final hand-to-hand combat sequence between the two in the sewage drain at Las Vegas' Riviera was great, too; incredible how Bourne just handed him his ass, pretty much, through the entire fight, and finally got the upper hand after he was going to be choked out. The fight sequence was perfect: Well-choreographed and not too long.

[StingingVelvet]

I really don't get the Vikander complaints at all. She's a serious character but why does that equal boring or dead weight? I don't get it. To me she comes across like a master manipulator and was one of the things I liked most in the film.

[imsounoriginal]

Yeah her character and acting didn't bother me, I just couldn't take her seriously because of how young she looks. I get that the movie is trying to make a statement about young/new school versus old/old school, but she seriously looks like an intern. Had the same problem with Cara Delevigne in Suicide Squad, too.

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Yeah her character and acting didn't bother me, I just couldn't take her seriously because of how young she looks. I get that the movie is trying to make a statement about young/new school versus old/old school, but she seriously looks like an intern. Had the same problem with Cara Delevigne in Suicide Squad, too.

I agree that she looked too young, as well...more than enough to distract the viewer from a "realistic" attempt at a narrative. In my opinion -- and, like you, I understand that they need to cater to a Millennial-esque demographic today -- the whole "I can understand these young people" angle in this film was a bit distasteful.

However, I still enjoy it every time I take it off the shelf...

[Panama Jack]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I really don't get the Vikander complaints at all. She's a serious character but why does that equal boring or dead weight? I don't get it. To me she comes across like a master manipulator and was one of the things I liked most in the film.

100% agree!