Black Christmas (1974) (Collector's Edition)

[cakefactory]

I just had a flashback to the bizarro surround remix on the Simitar DVD of "Godzilla Vs Mothra." The added sound effects were possibly the worst I've ever heard, especially in power lines being pulled down. I remember as soon as I heard that, I sold it on Ebay. I almost wish I hadn't done that so I could watch it again!

[cad1981]

Originally Posted by buck135

No need to cancel. There will be a replacement disc.

Have they confirmed anything? I wouldn't assume this is set in stone...until it's actually announced.

[MassiveMovieBuff]

Originally Posted by spawningblue

Wasn't this same issue on their Dead Ringers release? I wonder if they will fix that audio track as well?

I believe the Dead Ringers issue is similar to the Child's Play issue where the 2.0 audio track channels were reversed. If they did a correction for Child's Play I'm sure they have one for Dead Ringers too. If you have that release I would email Shout! at info@shoutfactory.com to see if they have a replacement program for it.

[cakefactory]

Originally Posted by cad1981

Have they confirmed anything? I wouldn't assume this is set in stone...until it's actually announced.

IF they do anything, it looks at this point that it would be a replacement deal instead of some attempt to do a recall or fix it in the second printing. The cat is too far out of the bag for the former, and historically they've never done the second (afaik).

[MassiveMovieBuff]

Originally Posted by cad1981

Have they confirmed anything? I wouldn't assume this is set in stone...until it's actually announced.

There was a post from someone a page back I believe that was a response from Shout! that they will have a decision pretty soon on what they are going to do. There has to be a replacement program. If not, that is going to be bad.

[cakefactory]

Originally Posted by Matt89

Oh really? Not a big deal? Because my YouTube video that I posted on Scream's Facebook wall got them to address the issue.

Why do you want 21st century revisions on a film that was MADE in the 20th century?

Lol sorry you're so upset about this. Who sh*t in your corn flakes this morning? you're cranky today.

~Matt

10 bucks says that if Scream DOES fix it and acknowledges there's a problem, that guy will completely change his tune

[Matt89]

Exactly.

And why is he so upset about people asking for Scream to correct the flawed audio? That's what I want to know. You're happy with the audio? That's fine. You don't need to participate in the exchange program if they offer one. But don't rip on other people for addressing the problem when they are putting money out for a product that was promised to be "definitive" when it wasn't. If you're happy with the audio, shut the f*ck up and move on. Simple as that. You also don't have to view this thread if it upsets you so much.

~Matt

[Matt89]

And 21st century video quality? Wtf are you talking about? Yes it's high definition but the movie still LOOKS like it was made in the 1970s. Your complaints make zero sense.

And a "vertical line that lasts one lousy second" is not the same as a flawed audio track that goes on for 98 minutes. That's 5,880 seconds.

~Matt

[MassiveMovieBuff]

Originally Posted by Matt89

Exactly.

And why is he so upset about people asking for Scream to correct the flawed audio? That's what I want to know. You're happy with the audio? That's fine. You don't need to participate in the exchange program if they offer one. But don't rip on other people for addressing the problem when they are putting money out for a product that was promised to be "definitive" when it wasn't. If you're happy with the audio, shut the f*ck up and move on. Simple as that. You also don't have to view this thread if it upsets you so much.

~Matt

I just stopped responding to any of his comments. It's pointless.

[Mystic]

Originally Posted by Matt89

Exactly.

And why is he so upset about people asking for Scream to correct the flawed audio? That's what I want to know. You're happy with the audio? That's fine. You don't need to participate in the exchange program if they offer one. But don't rip on other people for addressing the problem when they are putting money out for a product that was promised to be "definitive" when it wasn't. If you're happy with the audio, shut the f*ck up and move on. Simple as that. You also don't have to view this thread if it upsets you so much.

~Matt

I can't imagine why he'd blow a gasket over it either. All we're asking for as consumers is a level of quality from Scream that doesn't include technical flaws or defect of any kind. If I'm going to put money out for a so-called "Collector's Edition" or "Definitive Edition" then I expect the product to be free of defects - period. I would expect the same in terms of anything I purchase. What's unreasonable about that? And why would someone go off on a crazy tirade simply because he doesn't agree with the notion that we want a quality blu ray release from Scream?

[WITCHCULT]

My copy from Amazon shipped...having faith in a replacement disc

[ambient_indie]

I ended up buying the movie. I really like Black Christmas and I'm hoping for a replacement program otherwise I'm just going to track down the mono and mux it myself which really I shouldn't have to do. Especially with labels aimed at film fans.

[cad1981]

Originally Posted by MassiveMovieBuff

There was a post from someone a page back I believe that was a response from Shout! that they will have a decision pretty soon on what they are going to do. There has to be a replacement program. If not, that is going to be bad.

I believe Shout responded to an email by saying they would be making an announcement at some point soon. That's no guarantee of a replacement program, IMO. It just means they're going to potentially acknowledge there's an issue.

[MassiveMovieBuff]

Originally Posted by cad1981

I believe Shout responded to an email by saying they would be making an announcement at some point soon. That's no guarantee of a replacement program, IMO. It just means they're going to potentially acknowledge there's an issue.

Sorry if it sounded like I made it sound like I was stating they were guaranteeing a replacement program with my comment. I don't see that in the comment I made but I was referring to what you just stated to me, that they were going to be making an announcement on what they will be doing further.

[Rockercub]

Originally Posted by Justtoview

I'm sure you would, but that wouldn't be fair to those of us who do prefer the 5.1 mixes over the mono mixes on these releases. If they fix the mono mix then they should do the same for the 5.1, to be fair.

If the mono and 5.1 mixes are similar and similarly affected, you're right. They should both be fixed. In this particular case, the problem is only with the mono mix, which is significantly different from the 5.1 mix as it's the only track to represent the original theatrical experience.

Originally Posted by dsman71

The only thing thats a disgrace is fans like you who ***** and moan for over 10 pages on this thread over something that actually is a molehill and cant handle the fact that audio is not as bad as some of these headcase fans exclaim it to be. If they issue a replacement disc, it would be to please those who want their precious 1974 mono on a release that has 21st Century video and audio quality that many are happy with. Of course the naysayers outnumber the people that like the release, and arent as vocal because theyre busy watching and enjoying the movies instead of spending hours on forums whining
While we're at it, lets ask for replacements for more pre 1980s movies that have a vertical line that appears for one lousy second

Originally Posted by cakefactory

I love how he says it all disdainfully, like "WE'LL TAKE THE 21ST CENTURY VERSION." It's like a really, really aggressive and snotty defense of the Star Wars edits.

Originally Posted by Matt89

Oh really? Not a big deal? Because my YouTube video that I posted on Scream's Facebook wall got them to address the issue.

Why do you want 21st century revisions on a film that was MADE in the 20th century?

Lol sorry you're so upset about this. Who sh*t in your corn flakes this morning? you're cranky today.

~Matt

Originally Posted by MassiveMovieBuff

I just stopped responding to any of his comments. It's pointless.

This is his typical M.O. I've asked this before on another thread, but who's worse? The person who spends his time on a forum complaining about details of a blu-ray release? Or the person who spends his time on a forum complaining about people complaining about details of a blu-ray release? The latter seems like the bigger waste of time to me.

[MassiveMovieBuff]

Originally Posted by Rockercub

If the mono and 5.1 mixes are similar and similarly affected, you're right. They should both be fixed. In this particular case, the problem is only with the mono mix, which is significantly different from the 5.1 mix as it's the only track to represent the original theatrical experience.








This is his typical M.O. I've asked this before on another thread, but who's worse? The person who spends his time on a forum complaining about details of a blu-ray release? Or the person who spends his time on a forum complaining about people complaining about details of a blu-ray release? The latter seems like the bigger waste of time to me.

I would thoroughly agree with you 100%

[nitin]

I wonder why dsman71 is even buying this disc when there is a brand new 21st century version of the story available since 2006...

[MassiveMovieBuff]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but Daily Dead posted a review for the new Black Christmas release and gave it a high score with no mention of how the audio is whatsoever, bad or good. That's very odd. Just talked about the transfer (along with it's controversy over the transfer in a demeaning manner of course).

Edit: Hi Def Digest just posted their review and mentioned how bad the sibilance and hiss issue is.

[Mystic]

Originally Posted by MassiveMovieBuff

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but Daily Dead posted a review for the new Black Christmas release and gave it a high score with no mention of how the audio is whatsoever, bad or good. That's very odd. Just talked about the transfer (along with it's controversy over the transfer in a demeaning manner of course).

Edit: Hi Def Digest just posted their review and mentioned how bad the sibilance and hiss issue is.

I thought I posted a link to the review several pages ago. However, thanks for mentioning the review.

[Rockercub]

Originally Posted by MassiveMovieBuff

Edit: Hi Def Digest just posted their review and mentioned how bad the sibilance and hiss issue is.

But suggested that the 2.0 mix was a "welcome relief" if you don't like it.