Green Lantern Review Thread (Spoilers)

[anomynous]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

But that's Green Lantern! That's what its all about. I don't see your point.

Because the trailers went from "look a Ryan Reynolds comedy with some action!" to what they're showing now.

[Jezza]

I think this'll be very, very good, and each trailer that comes out tops the previous, suggesting it'll live up to expectations.

The only thing that's really annoying me about this is how much CGI there is. Because it just seems like it'll dominate the film too much and already many of the characters look like they've been created using CGI from 5-8 years ago.

Don't get me wrong, I think it looks great and may go and see it, it's just the amount of CGI really is bugging me, especially when it doesn't look very convincing.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by Jezza

I think this'll be very, very good, and each trailer that comes out tops the previous, suggesting it'll live up to expectations.

The only thing that's really annoying me about this is how much CGI there is. Because it just seems like it'll dominate the film too much and already many of the characters look like they've been created using CGI from 5-8 years ago.

A space based movie like this needs CG. I think the budget would be too high if they went to the moon to film. How would you create all the green energy? How would you create 3,600 corps members? The green constructs? Practical effects have to be thrown out when you're talking about the Green Lantern universe.

[Chaotic]

That the new trailer is freaking amazing.

Come on June 17th, get here already.

yeah, pretty amazing how different the first trailer is from the rest.

[Jezza]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

A space based movie like this needs CG. I think the budget would be too high if they went to the moon to film. How would you create all the green energy? How would you create 3,600 corps members? The green constructs? Practical effects have to be thrown out when you're talking about the Green Lantern universe.

I know, but I think my biggest qulam is how fake the aliens look, especially for a big blockbuster such as this.

I don't mind CGI at all, in fact I think it's a great tool, but when so much CGI is used in a film such as this, it needs to be convincing, and IMO it just doesn't look it here.

Avatar and TRON: Legacy used large amounts of CGI very well and convincingly. Granted Avatar had a much larger budget, but to me the CGI here already looks outdated.

Sorry, that's just how I see it.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by Jezza

I know, but I think my biggest qulam is how fake the aliens look, especially for a big blockbuster such as this.

I don't mind CGI at all, in fact I think it's a great tool, but when so much CGI is used in a film such as this, it needs to be convincing, and IMO it just doesn't look it here.

Avatar and TRON: Legacy used large amounts of CGI very well and convincingly. Granted Avatar had a much larger budget, but to me the CGI here already looks outdated.

Sorry, that's just how I see it.

Actually Tron used sequences where they blended CGI with practical effects so it seemed seamless. They couldn't do that with GL. The suits are made out of energy so they have to be CG. I think people need to realize how different the GL universe is to anything else.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by doctorD

It is pretty obvious that Warner (DC Entertainment) has its work cut out for them on their live action movies.

Was also addressing what I call the "Cars Factor" in trailers (due to it often being seen with Pixar marketing, as they're trying to make us forget the vague puzzling teasers)--
The worse the initial marketing turns out to be, the more that studios will give us two, three, five, seven Full trailers as the date approaches, just to make ABSOLUTELY SURE that we know the "real" plotline--And that there won't be some folk in the back still holding a grudge against the first piece of the movie they saw.
(Like me, f'rinstance, but I don't feel that was due to deceptive marketing.)

This one, as commented, was jumping on Thor while the hammer was hot, but if we get one more after this, ladies and gentlemen, we officially have a Nervous Studio.
And a Nervous Studio often has something (specific) to be nervous about.

[Underworld54]

Why are you guys saying the latest trailer is copying Thor? 30% of Green Lantern takes place in space or on Oa, they obviously had to show that stuff.

[anomynous]

Because the space stuff wasn't really in the marketing all that much until this trailer. After Thor's success they're seeing people like the space/mythological stuff, so now they're deciding to put a focus on it.



Not to mention it went from a comedy to a serious movie. I can't believe people are overlooking that fact, all that stuff is most likely still going to be in the movie.

This has nothing to do with the fact that stuff is a part of the GL universe, I think everybody knows that. It has to do with the marketing.

[Clark Kent]

Studios are constantly testing both the film and trailers to internal audiences before release. Some Hollywood executives really believe in the process, some don't. Marketing likely started out the film's publicity to be geared towards Ryan Reynolds' established comedy fans. But later screen tests might have indicated it played better as a serious space epic.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by anomynous

Because the space stuff wasn't really in the marketing all that much until this trailer. After Thor's success they're seeing people like the space/mythological stuff, so now they're deciding to put a focus on it.



Not to mention it went from a comedy to a serious movie. I can't believe people are overlooking that fact, all that stuff is most likely still going to be in the movie.

This has nothing to do with the fact that stuff is a part of the GL universe, I think everybody knows that. It has to do with the marketing.

Yeah bang your head a little harder please. The reason the newest trailer had so many space sequences is they were giving the audience some insight into the history of the Corp. It was essential and in no way does it look like how Thor was marketed.

[anomynous]

Yep, we would have gotten a trailer like this if Thor had flopped.


If you're refusing to see or acknowledge the similarities, then there's no point to debating this.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by anomynous

Yep, we would have gotten a trailer like this if Thor had flopped.

If they didn't show all the space stuff and explain the corps then people wouldn't have known what the heck was going on. They had to show the space stuff regardless if a Thor movie existed or not.

[PrivatePixel]

Originally Posted by anomynous

Not to mention it went from a comedy to a serious movie. I can't believe people are overlooking that fact, all that stuff is most likely still going to be in the movie.

This has nothing to do with the fact that stuff is a part of the GL universe, I think everybody knows that. It has to do with the marketing.

I don't think the content has changed (something tells me that all of the comedic bits that we saw when the teaser was released will still be retained within the film), but, after its poor reception, the marketing department opted to focus on the more serious aspects of the movie. It's a bit misleading if someone's introduction to this film was trailer three rather than the teaser. If the comical sequences with Ryan were edited or re-shot for the final cut, that would be one thing, but there's nothing to indicate that these were downplayed or removed altogether.

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by anomynous

Yep, we would have gotten a trailer like this if Thor had flopped.


If you're refusing to see or acknowledge the similarities, then there's no point to debating this.

Maybe because there are none? I honestly see no similarities in the marketing for either film.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

If they didn't show all the space stuff and explain the corps then people wouldn't have known what the heck was going on. They had to show the space stuff regardless if a Thor movie existed or not.

Also, one of the reasons we got the "goofy Ryan" teaser that we did is that Warner simply doesn't know what the public thinks of Green Lantern--
Half of Warner thinks that the mainstream public thinks Hal Jordan (if they know his name) is that guy from the Superfriends with the campy Dirk-Squarejaw voice, saying "My power ring will make a giant lasso!"
The other half wants to be Marvel (which Warner, still fighting its inner Cartoon Network demons, is starting to realize DC is not but would like desperately to be), and at least pile as much SFX as they can, even if they only know how to use it in easy pre-programmed Little Movie Glossary scenes.

Now, not knowing how to promote the finished movie is one thing...Not knowing how to initially FILM it is another.
Yes, most people don't know about the Lantern Corps, and about the whole canon of Hal meeting his alien pals...But without Thor, and the attempt at Epic Myth A La Marvel, would we have gotten an entire two-minute historical explanation of how the Corps was founded, and how green energy differs from yellow energy? How much of that is actually in the film?

I've been known to have invented several terms that since found immortality to become common parlance on Internet movie forums--One of those terms is "Panic ad".
In case you don't know, this is one of them.

[Underworld54]

Member Rashad00 posted this in the box office mojo Green Lantern thread. I may have to get this book.

[Idioteque...]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

If they didn't show all the space stuff and explain the corps then people wouldn't have known what the heck was going on. They had to show the space stuff regardless if a Thor movie existed or not.

The similarities between it and Thor's prologue are too hard to ignore. It's explained in the same manner and when the planet is presented, it has a similar feeling.

And no, nobody would be lost because it's going to be explained in the movie.

[Resettito]

I really fail to understand all the complaints about the CGI. It looks fantastic, especially considering that it's all CG and of course since none of this exists, everyone is going to say that it looks fake, you know it is, so you can't chase that idea out of your mind.

No really, if you think this looks bad, I don't know what can look good to your eyes, what I really think is that you just dislike the design, which coming from the comic book is obviously a bit cartoony and everything.

But hey I do see people, thank god, who actually think that it looks fantastic too, even for Avatar, some people were still saying it looked fake (well duh it doesnt exist).

[spidy]

Originally Posted by anomynous

...A "mythological" landscape full of aliens who protect the universe.


They're trying to make it look really similar.....



Because the space stuff wasn't really in the marketing all that much until this trailer. After Thor's success they're seeing people like the space/mythological stuff, so now they're deciding to put a focus on it.



Not to mention it went from a comedy to a serious movie. I can't believe people are overlooking that fact, all that stuff is most likely still going to be in the movie.

This has nothing to do with the fact that stuff is a part of the GL universe, I think everybody knows that. It has to do with the marketing.

Originally Posted by Underworld54

But that's Green Lantern! That's what its all about. I don't see your point.

Yes. That's exactly what Green Lantern is. The first GL trailer came out months before Thor was released and each trailer afterwards built upon the other. I don't see the connection either other than the fact that for some reason in your mind you have linked the two together. If anything GL is more similar to Iron Man because he starts off as a cut up and then changes. Then again, you could use the same analogy and say that Thor copied Iron Man however that's just a typical theme of comic book heroes. I think the first trailer of GL got some bad reactions (myself included) and WB made some changes (definitely for the good).