Brotherhood of the Wolf

[horroru]

Originally Posted by jtrinc

Like you guys, I am tired of waiting for a US release.
Sorry if this has already come up, but which version do you recommend?
I read that the French is one of the best but I am not clear on it being region free.

I found this one. Is it worth getting? Thanks!

https://smile.amazon.com/Brotherhood...9HCJZ7TJFXY8XG

I agree with bonehica - I own this version and it's look fantastic, certainly blows the DVD version out of the water. Absolutely worth owning for fans of the film, and it's the extended cut.

[jtrinc]

Awesome! Thanks a lot guys! One more question: Is it region free?

[Sky_Captain]

Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

The transfer is a port of the French disc, with some subtitle variations.

It is region free, so handy for non-region free folk, that can't play the French disc.

From this thread.

[jtrinc]

Thanks! I missed that earlier. Time to buy...

[horroru]

Originally Posted by jtrinc

Thanks! I missed that earlier. Time to buy...

Yes region free - you'll be very happy with it. The DVD was always a terrible transfer.

[Matt_Stevens]

Looks like it is OOP. I wonder what my options are now. There are a variety of offerings on eBay, but I am not sure which is best.

[Loaded Man]

It's not OOP. Looks like Amazon is getting more copies on June 5th. I just placed an order.

[KootiePie]

Got my hands on the new Studio Canal German release. Arthaus is on the cover but only as distributor it seems, once you play the disc it's just SC logos. At disc insert it prompts to select UK or Germany so apparently it's the same disc for both, as usual with SC. EDIT: If you select Germany you get the Arthaus logo and more warnings than I care to sit through.

I was looking to replace the old crappy Shout release with even more crappy subtitles that weren't fixed even in the replacement, lol.

This fits the bill perfectly. The remastered transfer is beautiful and the subtitles are done properly now (the original French release from 2008 already had good English subs btw). Also has the two commentaries that were in that disc. The Shout only has one place now: the trash.

Has an Atmos track but if it had MA 5.1 I'd been happy all the same. 150 min, so it's the director's cut. Great outing from SC.

Disc Title:     BROTHERHOOD OF THE WOLF
Disc Label:     PAKT_DER_WOELFE
Disc Size:      45,439,528,260 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BDInfo:         0.8.0.1b

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:           00050.MPLS
Length:         02:30:54.041 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:           44,148,133,248 bytes
Total Bitrate:  39.01 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
---------------         -------------       -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        23,895 kbps         1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
---------------                 -------------   -------------   -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             German           4054 kbps      5.1 / 48 kHz / 4054 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio        French           4982 kbps      7.1 / 48 kHz / 4534 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -29dB)
LPCM Audio                      English          2304 kbps      2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit
* Dolby Digital Audio           French            192 kbps      2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -31dB
* Dolby Digital Audio           French            192 kbps      2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -31dB

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
---------------                 -------------   -------------   -----------     
Presentation Graphics           German          25.17 kbps      1920x1080 / 916 Captions
Presentation Graphics           English         17.11 kbps      1920x1080 / 1125 Captions
Presentation Graphics           German           0.36 kbps      1920x1080 / 11 Captions
Presentation Graphics           English          0.27 kbps      1920x1080 / 15 Captions
* Presentation Graphics         German          55.40 kbps      1920x1080 / 1989 Captions
* Presentation Graphics         English         47.39 kbps      1920x1080 / 1981 Captions
* Presentation Graphics         German          43.18 kbps      1920x1080 / 1611 Captions
* Presentation Graphics         English         38.31 kbps      1920x1080 / 1646 Captions

[SymbioticFunction]

Yeah, I picked up the UK 1080p set and would agree that the remastered transfer is beautiful. My old French disc looked terrible so it's great to see a presentation like this. My wife and I are properly watching the new disc tomorrow (our next shared day off).

[filmlover22]

Isn't there also a 4k UK SC version of this? any feedback if it is worth the difference?

[The Hornets]

Originally Posted by filmlover22

Isn't there also a 4k UK SC version of this? any feedback if it is worth the difference?

Yes there is.


As @KootiePie notes same discs in both countries

At disc insert it prompts to select UK or Germany so apparently it's the same disc for both, as usual with SC. EDIT: If you select Germany you get the Arthaus logo and more warnings than I care to sit through.

You should note though unlike France and Germany the UK release includes a 4th disc which is the original French theatrical cut (the UK theatrical cut was edited by the distributor) in HD on a BD.

All 3 countries give you the
UHD - Directors Cut
BD - Directors Cut
BD - extras

[filmlover22]

Thank you. I was really looking for feedback on the PQ and if there was a noticeable difference from the bluray.

[The Hornets]

Originally Posted by filmlover22

Thank you. I was really looking for feedback on the PQ and if there was a noticeable difference from the bluray.

Think its same UHD disc everywhere.

Would suggest you read the UHD specific thread here
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=360754

as that's much more likely to answer the question. This thread should really be for the BD version.

[filmlover22]

ah, thank you. perhaps got confused on the threads!

[The Hornets]

Originally Posted by filmlover22

ah, thank you. perhaps got confused on the threads!

Agree it's confusing here. Useful to discuss both UHD and BD versions in the film posts on this sub-forum as you may miss out if you don't frequent the UHD sub-forums here.

As an example to me £25 for this title is a great price even if you aren't watching the UHD as you get 3 BDs, with the remastered Director's Cut, first time French theatrical cut out in UK and a BD of extras for that price. Many releases are £15 to £20 for just one BD disc. Here's looking at the likes of Arrow.

Okay doesn't have all the "fluff" of many Arrow, 88 Films etc. titles these days but it is multiple discs of quality content plus a slipcase (if that rocks your boat) all for £25, which is a very fair price to me.

[blakey55]

does anyone know if the 2 commentary tracks are in english?if not are there english subtitles for them.thanks

[chip75]

Originally Posted by blakey55

does anyone know if the 2 commentary tracks are in english?if not are there english subtitles for them.thanks

They'd be English friendly. So either one!

[Eibon]

Originally Posted by The Hornets

Yes there is.


As @KootiePie notes same discs in both countries



You should note though unlike France and Germany the UK release includes a 4th disc which is the original French theatrical cut (the UK theatrical cut was edited by the distributor) in HD on a BD.

All 3 countries give you the
UHD - Directors Cut
BD - Directors Cut
BD - extras

I am upgrading from my Canadian 3-dvd and it just arrived so I hope to watch at the weekend. I'm a bit alarmed the opening restoration card indicates the sfx are redone, I presume there will be nothing revisionist in them? Let's see if I notice, but at least the original unrestored theatrical is there anyhow since I haven't seen that since, well the Irish theatrical run, although I can't say whether that'd be different to the disc here. I'm supposing too that a lot of the extras from the 3-dvd aren't ported so I plan to keep that set. What I've seen of the included blu ray is stunning looking and I'm delighted to have the commentary subbed now.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Eibon

I'm a bit alarmed the opening restoration card indicates the sfx are redone, I presume there will be nothing revisionist in them?

It's been completely rebuilt, but they're the same effects, just regraded.

[Patton27]

What was the deal with the original UK only cut and removing an entire character?