PS3 which audio output - Blu-ray Forum

jedisinclair · 06-20-2007, 07:41 PM

I've got the PS3 and my setup right now is HDMI to TV for video and optical out to receiver for Audio. My question is this: Does HDMI offer more than optical as far as audio quality and/or choices? In other words, should I buy a new receiver with HDMI or does it not offer anything above and beyond optical?

Thanks in advance for any input.

nhaase · 06-20-2007, 09:08 PM

Use the search function, as it should help you out more. In short, though, yes. Optical out cannot output any of the lossless audio, aside from 2.1. So all the PCM, Dolby TrueHD, and DTSHD-MA encodes need either analog outs or HDMI (no analog outs on PS3, so you need HDMI). The bit-rates through HDMI also get higher, as you would expect, so there will be an increase in quality.

Go to your PS3's audio setup menu and see what you can select with optical out set and then with HDMI out set.

As for should you upgrade? As I said, it does offer more, but use the search function to see if people say the upgrade is worth it in their opinion, some people may not feel the quality is improved enough to justify the cost.

Shin-Ra · 06-20-2007, 10:02 PM

[PS3 System Software 1.81]

Digital Out (Optical):

Dolby Digital 5.1 Ch.
DTS 5.1 Ch.
AAC
Linear PCM 2 Ch. 44.1 kHz
Linear PCM 2 Ch. 48 kHz

HDMI:

Dolby Digital 5.1 Ch.
DTS 5.1 Ch.
AAC
Linear PCM 2 Ch. 44.1 kHz
Linear PCM 2 Ch. 88.2 kHz
Linear PCM 2 Ch. 176.4 kHz
Linear PCM 2 Ch. 48 kHz
Linear PCM 2 Ch. 96 kHz
Linear PCM 2 Ch. 192 kHz
Linear PCM 5.1 Ch. 44.1 kHz
Linear PCM 5.1 Ch. 88.2 kHz
Linear PCM 5.1 Ch. 176.4 kHz
Linear PCM 5.1 Ch. 48 kHz
Linear PCM 5.1 Ch. 96 kHz
Linear PCM 5.1 Ch. 192 kHz
Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. 44.1 kHz
Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. 88.2 kHz
Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. 176.4 kHz
Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. 48 kHz
Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. 96 kHz
Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. 192 kHz

jedisinclair · 06-21-2007, 12:26 AM

I found a reasonably priced HDMI receiver (does audio and video with 2 HDMI in and one out)... it's the Sony STR-DG710 and it's only $219 + $23 shipping at J&R Music. Crutchfield has it for $279 w/free shipping. So J&R is cheapest price I could find. Heck, for under $250, to get HDMI inputs, I can now run my cable box AND my PS3 thru HDMI. (I know it's not 1.3, but for the money, I'm OK with that)... my TV only has ONE HDMI input so I've been running HD cable through Component (which isn't a slouch) but it'll be nice to streamline those cords!!!

jgwatt · 06-22-2007, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

[PS3 System Software 1.81]

Digital Out (Optical):

Dolby Digital 5.1 Ch.
DTS 5.1 Ch.
AAC
Linear PCM 2 Ch. 44.1 kHz
Linear PCM 2 Ch. 48 kHz

HDMI:

Dolby Digital 5.1 Ch.
DTS 5.1 Ch.
AAC
Linear PCM 2 Ch. 44.1 kHz
Linear PCM 2 Ch. 88.2 kHz
Linear PCM 2 Ch. 176.4 kHz
Linear PCM 2 Ch. 48 kHz
Linear PCM 2 Ch. 96 kHz
Linear PCM 2 Ch. 192 kHz
Linear PCM 5.1 Ch. 44.1 kHz
Linear PCM 5.1 Ch. 88.2 kHz
Linear PCM 5.1 Ch. 176.4 kHz
Linear PCM 5.1 Ch. 48 kHz
Linear PCM 5.1 Ch. 96 kHz
Linear PCM 5.1 Ch. 192 kHz
Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. 44.1 kHz
Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. 88.2 kHz
Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. 176.4 kHz
Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. 48 kHz
Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. 96 kHz
Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. 192 kHz

How & where is DD true hd. In the PS3 setup I do not see where you select the DD TRUEHD. Do we have to wait for a reciever that can decode the codec from the PS3 connected through the HDMI.
Sorry if this sounds dumb.
John

Zaphod · 06-22-2007, 12:37 AM

Dolby TrueHD is automatically decoded in the PS3 and then is transmitted over HDMI as PCM. So basically if you want the HD audio, all you need is a receiver that can accept multi-channel PCM over HDMI. However, one thing worth noting. There is no DTS MA decoding for the PS3 nor is there a way to transmit that audio track over HDMI. So if in the future the PS3 has the ability to decode it onboard then it will probably transmit it over PCM as well. If it in the future has the ability to transmit the DTS MA track over HDMI you would need a receiver and a v1.3 compliant HDMI cable to transmit and decode it from the PS3.

jgwatt · 06-22-2007, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaphod

Dolby TrueHD is automatically decoded in the PS3 and then is transmitted over HDMI as PCM. So basically if you want the HD audio, all you need is a receiver that can accept multi-channel PCM over HDMI. However, one thing worth noting. There is no DTS MA decoding for the PS3 nor is there a way to transmit that audio track over HDMI. So if in the future the PS3 has the ability to decode it onboard then it will probably transmit it over PCM as well. If it in the future has the ability to transmit the DTS MA track over HDMI you would need a receiver and a v1.3 compliant HDMI cable to transmit and decode it from the PS3.

Cheers zaphod, That expanation helped me. I,ll have to check out a high quality reciever to do this. As I am into superior audio sound (Atmasphere valve amps & Genesis ones speakers ) my Theta Casablanca does not have HDMI inputs so what is available out there that offers this sort of high quality sound.
John

Harry_Krishna · 06-22-2007, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgwatt

Cheers zaphod, That expanation helped me. I,ll have to check out a high quality reciever to do this. As I am into superior audio sound (Atmasphere valve amps & Genesis ones speakers ) my Theta Casablanca does not have HDMI inputs so what is available out there that offers this sort of high quality sound.
John

Currently, the Onkyo 805 is the best one out now. But if you are concerned with upscalling and upconverting analog video, then you might want to wait for the 875 which will have the Reon proccessor, or even later for the 905 which will have ethernet and all sorts of other goodies. But right now, even at CC, you can get the 805 for as low as $899. It has 3 HDMI (1.3a) in, and one out. It is also THX Ultra 2 certified. I have it, and love it. Works great with both the PS3 and the new S300.

Canada · 06-24-2007, 05:37 AM

Question 1: Does any one know if future generations of PS3's will have HDMI 1.3 input?

2. This may be a stupid question but are there 2 models of the PS3? One with only an HDMI jack and another with an HDMI jack and analog outputs?

Can you send me the answer to my private in box as well as posting it.

my3sons · 02-25-2008, 01:47 AM

I was just given a PS3 and I am experiencing loud audio feedback through my receiver when I plug it in. I am using the AV cable that came in the box and my tuner is a pioneer VSX 711. I has an audio input but I haven't had success in using it. It has the Multi colored inputs for DVD also, sorry I don't know what they are called. Should I try a new cable or are there settings on the PS3 that I need to change. Any thoughts will be appreciated.

my3sons · 02-25-2008, 01:49 AM

I forgot to specify optical audio input is what I have had no success in using.

owa · 02-25-2008, 02:01 AM

If you mean you're using the cable that came with the PS3, it's an analog cable and you should set the PS3 to use analog outs. The cable should be connected to analog inputs on the Pioneer. If you mean you're using an optical cable that you got with the Pioneer, then disregard that comment. Just make sure you change the PS3 audio options to use optical.

Also, this thread might be helpful. It discusses all the different types of connections:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=32976

06-20-2007, 07:41 PM	#1
jedisinclair Senior Member Member since:Nov 2006 Blu-ray collection:42 Trading Score:3	PS3 which audio output I've got the PS3 and my setup right now is HDMI to TV for video and optical out to receiver for Audio. My question is this: Does HDMI offer more than optical as far as audio quality and/or choices? In other words, should I buy a new receiver with HDMI or does it not offer anything above and beyond optical? Thanks in advance for any input.

06-22-2007, 12:37 AM	#6
Zaphod Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2007 Location:A small planet somewhere in the vicinity of Betelgeuse. Blu-ray collection:350 Trading Score:4	Dolby TrueHD is automatically decoded in the PS3 and then is transmitted over HDMI as PCM. So basically if you want the HD audio, all you need is a receiver that can accept multi-channel PCM over HDMI. However, one thing worth noting. There is no DTS MA decoding for the PS3 nor is there a way to transmit that audio track over HDMI. So if in the future the PS3 has the ability to decode it onboard then it will probably transmit it over PCM as well. If it in the future has the ability to transmit the DTS MA track over HDMI you would need a receiver and a v1.3 compliant HDMI cable to transmit and decode it from the PS3. Last edited by Zaphod; 06-22-2007 at 12:42 AM.

02-25-2008, 01:47 AM	#10
my3sons New Member Member since:Feb 2008	Help! I am a techo newbie. I was just given a PS3 and I am experiencing loud audio feedback through my receiver when I plug it in. I am using the AV cable that came in the box and my tuner is a pioneer VSX 711. I has an audio input but I haven't had success in using it. It has the Multi colored inputs for DVD also, sorry I don't know what they are called. Should I try a new cable or are there settings on the PS3 that I need to change. Any thoughts will be appreciated.

02-25-2008, 01:49 AM	#11
my3sons New Member Member since:Feb 2008	Optical audio input I forgot to specify optical audio input is what I have had no success in using.

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06-20-2007, 09:08 PM	#2
nhaase Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Trading Score:2	Use the search function, as it should help you out more. In short, though, yes. Optical out cannot output any of the lossless audio, aside from 2.1. So all the PCM, Dolby TrueHD, and DTSHD-MA encodes need either analog outs or HDMI (no analog outs on PS3, so you need HDMI). The bit-rates through HDMI also get higher, as you would expect, so there will be an increase in quality. Go to your PS3's audio setup menu and see what you can select with optical out set and then with HDMI out set. As for should you upgrade? As I said, it does offer more, but use the search function to see if people say the upgrade is worth it in their opinion, some people may not feel the quality is improved enough to justify the cost.

06-20-2007, 10:02 PM	#3
Shin-Ra Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:5 Trading Score:1	[PS3 System Software 1.81] Digital Out (Optical): Dolby Digital 5.1 Ch. DTS 5.1 Ch. AAC Linear PCM 2 Ch. 44.1 kHz Linear PCM 2 Ch. 48 kHz HDMI: Dolby Digital 5.1 Ch. DTS 5.1 Ch. AAC Linear PCM 2 Ch. 44.1 kHz Linear PCM 2 Ch. 88.2 kHz Linear PCM 2 Ch. 176.4 kHz Linear PCM 2 Ch. 48 kHz Linear PCM 2 Ch. 96 kHz Linear PCM 2 Ch. 192 kHz Linear PCM 5.1 Ch. 44.1 kHz Linear PCM 5.1 Ch. 88.2 kHz Linear PCM 5.1 Ch. 176.4 kHz Linear PCM 5.1 Ch. 48 kHz Linear PCM 5.1 Ch. 96 kHz Linear PCM 5.1 Ch. 192 kHz Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. 44.1 kHz Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. 88.2 kHz Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. 176.4 kHz Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. 48 kHz Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. 96 kHz Linear PCM 7.1 Ch. 192 kHz

06-21-2007, 12:26 AM	#4
jedisinclair Senior Member Member since:Nov 2006 Blu-ray collection:42 Trading Score:3	I found a reasonably priced HDMI receiver (does audio and video with 2 HDMI in and one out)... it's the Sony STR-DG710 and it's only $219 + $23 shipping at J&R Music. Crutchfield has it for $279 w/free shipping. So J&R is cheapest price I could find. Heck, for under $250, to get HDMI inputs, I can now run my cable box AND my PS3 thru HDMI. (I know it's not 1.3, but for the money, I'm OK with that)... my TV only has ONE HDMI input so I've been running HD cable through Component (which isn't a slouch) but it'll be nice to streamline those cords!!!

06-24-2007, 05:37 AM	#9
Canada Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Victoria, BC Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:305 Blu-ray collection:1201 DVD collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:42	Question 1: Does any one know if future generations of PS3's will have HDMI 1.3 input? 2. This may be a stupid question but are there 2 models of the PS3? One with only an HDMI jack and another with an HDMI jack and analog outputs? Can you send me the answer to my private in box as well as posting it.

02-25-2008, 02:01 AM	#12
owa Blu-ray Knight Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 96	If you mean you're using the cable that came with the PS3, it's an analog cable and you should set the PS3 to use analog outs. The cable should be connected to analog inputs on the Pioneer. If you mean you're using an optical cable that you got with the Pioneer, then disregard that comment. Just make sure you change the PS3 audio options to use optical. Also, this thread might be helpful. It discusses all the different types of connections: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=32976

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