I can't see Grain - Blu-ray Forum

csyoung · 08-11-2009, 07:12 PM

I have a 46" Samsung 850 and sit about 7.5 ft from tv. I don't see
much grain, even on movies that have alot of grain. When I get closer I can see it much better. Is my tv too small? from what I have read I'm sitting at the right distance. On movies like 300 I could see grain on my older 46" Samsung. I don't have NR on, does anyone have an explanation or could it be my 850 isn't as good as I thought?

Batman1980 · 08-11-2009, 07:13 PM

The first thing I want to know is are you using HDMI? If you're using component the grain won't really show up.

csyoung · 08-11-2009, 07:22 PM

Actually using overpriced Monster Cable HDMI cables. ( got a great deal on them). I used the same cables on my Samsung 630 and could see grain fine. I'm watching Blue Thunder right now and there is quite a bit of grain when o stand a couple feet away but can't see but a little when I sit down. Picture looks great though. Maybe my eyes are defective

Dase · 08-11-2009, 07:29 PM

Oh no! Is your grain sensor busted!? haha jk

Is this a problem? Does it matter? If the picture looks great then what's the issue?

csyoung · 08-11-2009, 07:37 PM

I do like a little grain I'd that's what is intended but I think the issue I am having is I had grain on my other tv which is in theory was a lesser model.

igotcabada · 08-11-2009, 07:44 PM

maybe you need lasek

Another_Dude · 08-11-2009, 07:45 PM

Have you calibrated? Was your old display calibrated?

csyoung · 08-11-2009, 07:54 PM

I didn't have old one calibrated but I am having this one done August 25th. Ironic before I got this one I kept reading on these posts how grain is so awful to alot of people who didn't like it but here I am complaining about not having enough. As long as grain isn't a direct reflection of quality of tv I can live with it. I just wanted to know if it was or if I needed a bigger tv (which will probably mean divorce papers in my near future).

mrgreed202 · 08-11-2009, 07:58 PM

hah. you guys talk about grain like its salt and pepper.

Pelican170 · 08-11-2009, 08:12 PM

hahah, in my opinion, be happy, grain sucks... but I understand what you are saying. Try Under Siege and see if you see any...

Jtodd · 08-11-2009, 09:54 PM

Try nick and norah the whole movie is grain,crappy transfer!

Frag · 08-11-2009, 09:58 PM

Is AMP turned on? If it is then try turning it off and see if the grain returns. Your old set did not have AMP and is probably why you saw the grain then and aren't seeing it now.

wallendo · 08-11-2009, 10:03 PM

For the most part, I don't see grain either. But, I suspect it is because I grew up watching "snowy" television and watching movies on the big screen (back when the screen was actually big), and looking at slides on a home projector. I am oblivious to grain - it doesn't come to my attention when it's there, and I don't miss it when it's not.

As for "300", the last time a watched it on HD-DVD played on a CRT HDTV, it looked a lot more like "snow" than "grain". I ssem to be very sensitive to video noise, but not to grain.

If you are happy with the appearance of your monitor, there is no reason to worry about what the "grain snobs" think.

RiseDarthVader · 08-12-2009, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jtodd

Try nick and norah the whole movie is grain,crappy transfer!

*sigh*

Blu Titan · 08-12-2009, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csyoung

I do like a little grain I'd that's what is intended but I think the issue I am having is I had grain on my other tv which is in theory was a lesser model.

Try watching Predator BD...you should see some grain with that one.

DC_Street · 08-12-2009, 02:04 AM

we should trade tvs

blu-bry · 08-12-2009, 03:20 PM

If you watch the black a white portion at the beginning of "Casino Royale" and can't see grain then you've got a problem. That scene is filmed to be deliberately grainy as it's a flashback. It's a swirling grain-lover's dream!

celticpride · 08-12-2009, 04:08 PM

I cant even comprehend why anyone would want to see grain!!!,thats why i got an HDTV to see crystal clear picture!!!!

Teabaggins · 08-12-2009, 04:18 PM

gently rub a little sand paper over your eye ball, just a little and do it gently

t0nythebeat · 08-13-2009, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celticpride

I cant even comprehend why anyone would want to see grain!!!,thats why i got an HDTV to see crystal clear picture!!!!

same here. but then you will get asked the question, "What's wrong with grain?" haha.

I see grain really close to my TV and of course if a movie is grain infested.
But then sometimes I see TV's on display that I'm standing right in front off, with near perfect clearness. who knows.

08-11-2009, 07:12 PM	#1
csyoung Member Member since:Apr 2007	I can't see Grain I have a 46" Samsung 850 and sit about 7.5 ft from tv. I don't see much grain, even on movies that have alot of grain. When I get closer I can see it much better. Is my tv too small? from what I have read I'm sitting at the right distance. On movies like 300 I could see grain on my older 46" Samsung. I don't have NR on, does anyone have an explanation or could it be my 850 isn't as good as I thought?

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08-11-2009, 07:13 PM	#2
Batman1980 Blu-ray Jedi Member since:Feb 2009 Location:District 13 Home Theater Gallery:8 4K collection:146 Blu-ray collection:394 DVD collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:22 Trading Score:48	The first thing I want to know is are you using HDMI? If you're using component the grain won't really show up.

08-11-2009, 07:22 PM	#3
csyoung Member Member since:Apr 2007	Actually using overpriced Monster Cable HDMI cables. ( got a great deal on them). I used the same cables on my Samsung 630 and could see grain fine. I'm watching Blue Thunder right now and there is quite a bit of grain when o stand a couple feet away but can't see but a little when I sit down. Picture looks great though. Maybe my eyes are defective

08-11-2009, 07:29 PM	#4
Dase Special Member Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jan 2009 Home Theater Gallery:23 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:81 Blu-ray reviews: 2	Oh no! Is your grain sensor busted!? haha jk Is this a problem? Does it matter? If the picture looks great then what's the issue?

08-11-2009, 07:37 PM	#5
csyoung Member Member since:Apr 2007	I do like a little grain I'd that's what is intended but I think the issue I am having is I had grain on my other tv which is in theory was a lesser model.

08-11-2009, 07:44 PM	#6
igotcabada Special Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jan 2009 Location:NC Home Theater Gallery:22 Blu-ray collection:37	maybe you need lasek

08-11-2009, 07:45 PM	#7
Another_Dude Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2008 Blu-ray collection:191 Blu-ray reviews:8	Have you calibrated? Was your old display calibrated?

08-11-2009, 07:54 PM	#8
csyoung Member Member since:Apr 2007	I didn't have old one calibrated but I am having this one done August 25th. Ironic before I got this one I kept reading on these posts how grain is so awful to alot of people who didn't like it but here I am complaining about not having enough. As long as grain isn't a direct reflection of quality of tv I can live with it. I just wanted to know if it was or if I needed a bigger tv (which will probably mean divorce papers in my near future).

08-11-2009, 07:58 PM	#9
mrgreed202 Senior Member Member since:Apr 2008 Blu-ray collection:138	hah. you guys talk about grain like its salt and pepper.

08-11-2009, 08:12 PM	#10
Pelican170 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Newtown, CT 4K collection:127 Blu-ray collection:735 DVD collection:256 Trading Score:13	hahah, in my opinion, be happy, grain sucks... but I understand what you are saying. Try Under Siege and see if you see any...

08-11-2009, 09:54 PM	#11
Jtodd Active Member Member since:May 2009 Location:New Hope,MN Blu-ray collection:35 Blu-ray reviews:1	Try nick and norah the whole movie is grain,crappy transfer!

08-11-2009, 09:58 PM	#12
Frag Junior Member Member since:Dec 2008	Is AMP turned on? If it is then try turning it off and see if the grain returns. Your old set did not have AMP and is probably why you saw the grain then and aren't seeing it now.

08-11-2009, 10:03 PM	#13
wallendo Power Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Southeastern NC 4K collection:100 Blu-ray collection:1027 DVD collection:7 MA collection:3 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:4	For the most part, I don't see grain either. But, I suspect it is because I grew up watching "snowy" television and watching movies on the big screen (back when the screen was actually big), and looking at slides on a home projector. I am oblivious to grain - it doesn't come to my attention when it's there, and I don't miss it when it's not. As for "300", the last time a watched it on HD-DVD played on a CRT HDTV, it looked a lot more like "snow" than "grain". I ssem to be very sensitive to video noise, but not to grain. If you are happy with the appearance of your monitor, there is no reason to worry about what the "grain snobs" think.

08-12-2009, 02:04 AM	#16
DC_Street Power Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Denver, CO Blu-ray collection:142 Trading Score:43	we should trade tvs

08-12-2009, 03:20 PM	#17
blu-bry Senior Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Norton Shores, MI 4K collection:98 Blu-ray collection:797 DVD collection:151 Blu-ray reviews: 10	If you watch the black a white portion at the beginning of "Casino Royale" and can't see grain then you've got a problem. That scene is filmed to be deliberately grainy as it's a flashback. It's a swirling grain-lover's dream!

08-12-2009, 04:08 PM	#18
celticpride Member Member since:Dec 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 1	I cant even comprehend why anyone would want to see grain!!!,thats why i got an HDTV to see crystal clear picture!!!!

08-12-2009, 04:18 PM	#19
Teabaggins Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2008	gently rub a little sand paper over your eye ball, just a little and do it gently

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