HDMI 1.4 are we getting ready for it?!

[antbanks24]

Check this article out!

http://www.techradar.com/news/televi...dmi-1-4-626951

[ZedsDead]

God I love and hate technology, 1.4 sounds phenomenal, but now makes 1.3 seem so pedestrian. It's unreal how technology keeps growing exponentially. I still think 1080p will be the standard for sometime to come though, 4k x 2k will require one seriously large screen to really see a benefit.

[Buddy Christ]

Originally Posted by ZedsDead

God I love and hate technology, 1.4 sounds phenomenal, but now makes 1.3 seem so pedestrian. It's unreal how technology keeps growing exponentially. I still think 1080p will be the standard for sometime to come though, 4k x 2k will require one seriously large screen to really see a benefit.

Yes, This is future. Not today. I guess the chicken came before the egg.

[Maswov]

At least the cables will be available for when technology catches up and becomes affordable.
1 Thing doesn't sound right tho, maybe a misprint...
The new version of HDMI adds a bi-directional IP data channel to allow devices to send and receive data at full Ethernet speeds (ie up to 100Mbps).
Gigabit switches and routers are all over the place now, and even wireless is faster than the 100Mbps stated. Again maybe a misprint but seems like something ready for all the new techs would support what is already available.

[Max Mike]

Originally Posted by Maswov

At least the cables will be available for when technology catches up and becomes affordable.
1 Thing doesn't sound right tho, maybe a misprint...
The new version of HDMI adds a bi-directional IP data channel to allow devices to send and receive data at full Ethernet speeds (ie up to 100Mbps).
Gigabit switches and routers are all over the place now, and even wireless is faster than the 100Mbps stated. Again maybe a misprint but seems like something ready for all the new techs would support what is already available.

Look for future AV receivers to be a HDMI switches with wireless and wired ethernet feed.

[saprano]

Im ready.

Sucks we have to by new tv's and equipment though. how long before 4k becomes the standard? i dont see that happening for a long time.

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

IMO, 4K will be irrelevant in home settings unless one has a very large projection screen.

[Uniquely]

Originally Posted by Danielle Ni Dhighe

IMO, 4K will be irrelevant in home settings unless one has a very large projection screen.

Completely agreed. For the average consumer it will be like 1080P on a 32" tv..... completely pointless. There are limits to what the human eye is capable of. We already know that it is not possible for a person with 20/20 vision to discern the difference between 720P and 1080P on any screen smaller than 50"... and even 50" requires a sitting distance of less than 8'..... but people still buy 37" 1080P tv's and think they are seeing 1080P.... so I imagine that there will be people who will buy a 50" 4k tv and think they've really made a wise investment. 4K in the home will be a complete niche item; only useful for those who have front projection systems.

But the ethernet over HDMI sounds GREAT!

[repete66211]

Nothing wrong with R&D, but I think they're really outpacing themselves here. If they started marketing 4k the general public, most of whom don't even have HDTVs, would be justified in throwing up their hands in disgust. The whole Blu-ray/HDTV transition has enough of the less tech-savvy people already suspicious. Launching this sort of technology would have them calling their congressmen.

[tilapiah6]

Originally Posted by Blu2U

Yes, This is future. Not today. I guess the chicken came before the egg.

Such is usually the case with this sort of thing. Still, really nice cable.

[syncguy]

Originally Posted by repete66211

Nothing wrong with R&D, but I think they're really outpacing themselves here. If they started marketing 4k the general public, most of whom don't even have HDTVs, would be justified in throwing up their hands in disgust. The whole Blu-ray/HDTV transition has enough of the less tech-savvy people already suspicious. Launching this sort of technology would have them calling their congressmen.

It is okay if they can sell 4K upscaling TVs for the same price of 1080p TVs . That will not happen. Seriously, 1.3 HDMI which supports 1080P on blu-ray is currently sufficient for the home market. However, nothing wrong with looking into the future.

[Cr00zng]

Originally Posted by antbanks24

Check this article out!

http://www.techradar.com/news/televi...dmi-1-4-626951

I wonder how Monster's warranty will work:

If the audio and video components you purchase in the future* ever surpass the performance of select Monster® cables you buy today, Monster® will upgrade these cables absolutely free.
*-Emphasis mine

It doesn't seem like that lot of people will have the receipt 3-5 years from now for the purchase of the Monster cable; even if they do, the receipt will be unreadable by that time anyway.

Cr00zng

[xneox]

Originally Posted by Cr00zng

I wonder how Monster's warranty will work:

It doesn't seem like that lot of people will have the receipt 3-5 years from now for the purchase of the Monster cable; even if they do, the receipt will be unreadable by that time anyway.

Cr00zng

Monster's warranty doesn't mention a receipt as a requirement. I suspect the cable itself will serve as sufficient for an upgrade. Either way, since everything is electronic, it wouldn't be too hard to obtain a duplicate receipt.

Nice to know I won't have to pay for a cable if I ever buy devices requiring this spec.

[Pelican170]

Just another marketing scheme. All those things for HDMI 1.4 are for equipment set far in the future...

[xneox]

Originally Posted by Pelican170

All those things for HDMI 1.4 are for equipment set far in the future...

???

Do you have proof of this? Just look at how much things have advanced in the last 10 years...and factor in the exponential nature of technological advancement. It's reasonable to suspect that devices that take advantage of this spec will be available within five years.

Also, don't think for a second that the HDMI consortium just pulls this stuff out of their collective ass. If they put data compatibility into the cable, another reasonable assumption is that someone asked for it. Shit, my tv has ethernet. Why not build it into the HDMI cable? Then a/v receiver manufacturers can integrate a router that's cat5/6in, HDMI out. Beautiful.

[Cr00zng]

Originally Posted by robinandtami

Completely agreed. For the average consumer it will be like 1080P on a 32" tv..... completely pointless. There are limits to what the human eye is capable of. We already know that it is not possible for a person with 20/20 vision to discern the difference between 720P and 1080P on any screen smaller than 50"... and even 50" requires a sitting distance of less than 8'..... but people still buy 37" 1080P tv's and think they are seeing 1080P.... so I imagine that there will be people who will buy a 50" 4k tv and think they've really made a wise investment. 4K in the home will be a complete niche item; only useful for those who have front projection systems.

But the ethernet over HDMI sounds GREAT!

Being an average consumer, I pretty much agree with you.

The only thing I'd add that for me the 720p looks better than the 1080i, on both the 26" and 46" TVs for the signal from the cable box. The differences aren't very obvious and for most of the programming on cable it probably makes no difference.

The BD player's 1080p on the other hand looks better than the 720p or the 1080i, just to state the obvious.

Cr00zng

[Pelican170]

Originally Posted by xneox

???

Do you have proof of this? Just look at how much things have advanced in the last 10 years...and factor in the exponential nature of technological advancement. It's reasonable to suspect that devices that take advantage of this spec will be available within five years.

Also, don't think for a second that the HDMI consortium just pulls this stuff out of their collective ass. If they put data compatibility into the cable, another reasonable assumption is that someone asked for it. Shit, my tv has ethernet. Why not build it into the HDMI cable? Then a/v receiver manufacturers can integrate a router that's cat5/6in, HDMI out. Beautiful.

The last 10 years sure, but people dont want to have to keep changing their equipment everytime a new cable is put out. besides, the majority of people owning tv's dont care about any of that stuff... but im sure they will market to them like as if they did...

[Cr00zng]

Originally Posted by xneox

Monster's warranty doesn't mention a receipt as a requirement. I suspect the cable itself will serve as sufficient for an upgrade. Either way, since everything is electronic, it wouldn't be too hard to obtain a duplicate receipt.

Monster will require proof of purchase; hold on to your UPC tag and receipt. The latter one should be scanned in now.

Nice to know I won't have to pay for a cable if I ever buy devices requiring this spec.

Well, as long as you've purchased Monster 1000 series HDMI, the answer is yes; they can be exchanged for a newer one that supports the Ethernet connection. The other series, 800, 600, etc, are not eligible for the exchange.

It seems like that Monster will exchange cables within the same HDMI specs that the cable supports, but not beyond the actual specs. For example the 1000 series already supports HDMI 1.4 and can be exchanged for the same with Ethernet support.

One could not exchange the series 800 to a series 1000 HDMI cable. The reason being that the 800 series has a maximum support of HDMI 1.3, a.k.a. different class or maximum transfer rate. Presumable the same will happen in the future when someone wants to exchange the HDMI 1.4 cable to 1.5; the chances are that the answer will be no.

So much for the lifetime performance warranty claim I guess...

Cr00zng

[xneox]

Originally Posted by Cr00zng

Monster will require proof of purchase; hold on to your UPC tag and receipt. The latter one should be scanned in now.

That is a very good idea. I will.

Well, as long as you've purchased Monster 1000 series HDMI,...

I have...it was the only one available with the right-angle end I needed.

...the answer is yes; they can be exchanged for a newer one that supports the Ethernet connection. The other series, 800, 600, etc, are not eligible for the exchange.

It seems like that Monster will exchange cables within the same HDMI specs that the cable supports, but not beyond the actual specs. For example the 1000 series already supports HDMI 1.4 and can be exchanged for the same with Ethernet support.

One could not exchange the series 800 to a series 1000 HDMI cable. The reason being that the 800 series has a maximum support of HDMI 1.3, a.k.a. different class or maximum transfer rate. Presumable the same will happen in the future when someone wants to exchange the HDMI 1.4 cable to 1.5; the chances are that the answer will be no.

So much for the lifetime performance warranty claim I guess...

Cr00zng

Only their 1000 series qualifies for the 'cable for life' warranty...neither the 600 nor 800 series qualify, so there will be no exchanges for them at all. In addition, it mentions nothing about being limited to whatever spec the cable was designed for...where are you getting your information?

On the contrary, it's being offered as a future-proof warranty, so I fully expect a HDMI1.5 cable in exchange should I ever require one.

[Pelican170]

Originally Posted by xneox

That is a very good idea. I will.




I have...it was the only one available with the right-angle end I needed.



Only their 1000 series qualifies for the 'cable for life' warranty...neither the 600 nor 800 series qualify, so there will be no exchanges for them at all. In addition, it mentions nothing about being limited to whatever spec the cable was designed for...where are you getting your information?

On the contrary, it's being offered as a future-proof warranty, so I fully expect a HDMI1.5 cable in exchange should I ever require one.

Or be smart and avoid Monster Cables from the getgo...