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Old 09-08-2009, 08:28 PM   #1
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Angry Crank 2 playback issues

Crank 2, released today, took over an hour for a AV and Computer expert to load this film. I would get a square of about 8" of actual video on a 60" display after waiting 2.5 minutes.

First I updated my Panasonic DMP-BD35K firmware via the internet, which to this day never hicupped on any movie. Restarted, no change.

OK so I left it hooked up the internet, restarted again and this time the movie said it was checking on updates. Still I would not get pass that 8" square of video.

Ok so I then put in my SD memory card, restarted, and after downloading, which also took at least two more minutes on a 16 Mbps internet line, now I get a EULA for Lionsgate BD-Live site. I selected "I disagree" and sure enough the movie would still not load.

OK one more time and I selected "I agree" and wouldn't you know it the movie actually started.

This is the bottom line on getting the movie to play:
It appears that this problem disc will not load on certain 2.0 profile players unless you use an external memory card.

All 1.0 and 1.1 profile players such as the Panasonic BD-30 or Sony's BDP-300 or 500 will not have a problem because they are not BD-Live capable.

All players that are 2.0 profile, that have built in memory, i.e. the PS3 or the OPPO 83 will not have this problem.

All of this would have been a walk in the park if the studios would put a simple system requirement notice on the back cover stating " 2.0 profile players must have either internal or external memory installed for this movie to load correctly."

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Old 09-08-2009, 08:32 PM   #2
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:45 PM   #3
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Dear President and Board members of Lionsgate,

If I ever rent or buy a movie from you again there better be detailed instructions on the back of the box of all the steps needed to be done on my bluray player in order to watch one of your movies.

Crank 2 took over an hour for a AV and Computer expert to load this film. I would get a square of about 8" of actual video on a 60" display after waiting 2.5 minutes.

First I updated my Panasonic DMP-BD35K firmware, which to this day never hicupped on any movie. Restarted, no change.
OK so I hooked up the internet to it, restarted again and this time it said it was checking on updates. Still I would not get pass that 8" square of video.

Ok so I then put in my SD memory card, restarted, and after downloading, which also took at least two more minutes on a 16 Mbps internet line, now I get a EULA for Lionsgate BD-Live site. I selected "I disagree" and sure enough the movie would still not load.

OK one more time and I selected "I agree" and wouldn't you know it the movie actually started.

Are you and your co-horts out of your f&*king minds?

I and the rest of my fellow consumers of your product should never have to agree to watch one of your movies like this again.

If anyone else wants to join this rant please help yourself. This will also appear on AVSForum.
Yeah, I am sure that'll drive it home and make them listen... Especially considering it's a firmware issue...
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:49 PM   #4
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No issues on my PS3
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:53 PM   #5
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Whoa-
so I don't even have live capabilities on my 2 players (Sony and Panasonic)...does that mean I can't even watch the movie on blu???
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:54 PM   #6
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That's the point it was not a firmware issue.

You must be connected to the internet, have a SD memory card installed and agree to their EULA in order to watch the movie.

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Old 09-08-2009, 08:57 PM   #7
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You must be connected to the internet, have a SD memory card installed and agree to their EULA in order to watch the movie.
LOL, no you don't. Just because your player had an issue, doesn't mean everyone will have to do that.
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:58 PM   #8
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You must be connected to the internet, have a SD memory card installed and agree to their EULA in order to watch the movie. You might want to pay closer attention while reading.
Sooo- no internet to my player, and I can't even watch the movie, because I bought my Sony way back when???

That's STUPID!!!
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:58 PM   #9
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Sooo- no internet to my player, and I can't even watch the movie, because I bought my Sony way back when???

That's STUPID!!!
Dude, you can watch the movie. Calm down.
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:02 PM   #10
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LOL, no you don't. Just because your player had an issue, doesn't mean everyone will have to do that.
I do not normally post something like this but it was not a player issue. You have to update the JAVA first in order to watch the movie. It was just released today and I got really annoyed. My player is usually not connected.
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:06 PM   #11
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I do not normally post something like this but it was not a player issue. You have to update the JAVA first in order to watch the movie. It was just released today and I got really annoyed. My player is usually not connected.
So... is this you admitting that you were wrong for posting such a F.U.D. filled rant in a new thread?

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Sooo- no internet to my player, and I can't even watch the movie, because I bought my Sony way back when???

That's STUPID!!!
You may have to run a firmware update on your player, but you'll still be able to watch it.

I'm not sure how you update your player in particular, but if it doesn't connect to the internet it usually involves burn a CD/DVD with the new firmware software on it and placing it into the player itself.
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:15 PM   #13
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You know what, you are all probably right I will edit the orginial post.

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Old 09-08-2009, 09:22 PM   #14
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Whoa-
so I don't even have live capabilities on my 2 players (Sony and Panasonic)...does that mean I can't even watch the movie on blu???
It might have been an issue with the Panasonic. It was the strangest thing I have ever seen on a new release. I will edit my orginal post in case other have issues.
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Crank 2, released today, took over an hour for a AV and Computer expert to load this film. I would get a square of about 8" of actual video on a 60" display after waiting 2.5 minutes.

First I updated my Panasonic DMP-BD35K firmware via the internet, which to this day never hicupped on any movie. Restarted, no change.

OK so I left it hooked up the internet, restarted again and this time it said it was checking on updates. Still I would not get pass that 8" square of video.

Ok so I then put in my SD memory card, restarted, and after downloading, which also took at least two more minutes on a 16 Mbps internet line, now I get a EULA for Lionsgate BD-Live site. I selected "I disagree" and sure enough the movie would still not load.

OK one more time and I selected "I agree" and wouldn't you know it the movie actually started.

I'll give you $10 for it. PM me if interested.
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:23 PM   #16
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So... is this you admitting that you were wrong for posting such a F.U.D. filled rant in a new thread?
Yes
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What if you don't connect your player(BD35) to the web?
You can not watch Crank2 ?
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What if you don't connect your player(BD35) to the web?
You can not watch Crank2 ?
See what you've done op?
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It would not load the movie correctly on my player until I allowed the movie to connect to the Lionsgate BD-Live site and allow it to update the movie.

I have never seen this before. I have the Skynet T2 movie and when it asked to connect I selected cancelled and it would still load. This was different.
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:31 PM   #20
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Not true I a Sony Blu-ray not connected to the internet and the movie played just fine w/o any problems
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