The Shining Question??? - Blu-ray Forum

DMC86X · 10-05-2009, 03:11 AM

OK just watched this and loved it but the end confused the hell out of me. What was up with that picture at the end from 1924?? Does it mean Jack Nicholsan was a ghost the whole time????

Realist01 · 10-05-2009, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DMC86X

OK just watched this and loved it but the end confused the hell out of me. What was up with that picture at the end from 1924?? Does it mean Jack Nicholsan was a ghost the whole time????

It's really up to what you think. I believe he was there in another life. He kept saying that it's as if he he's already been there.

DMC86X · 10-05-2009, 03:18 AM

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It's really up to what you think. I believe he was there in another life. He kept saying that it's as if he he's already been there.

Classic Kubrick film making I guess.

andyman1970 · 10-05-2009, 03:26 AM

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It's really up to what you think. I believe he was there in another life. He kept saying that it's as if he he's already been there.

This is what I have always thought. Sort of a reincarnated type thing.

Duffy12 · 10-05-2009, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DMC86X

OK just watched this and loved it but the end confused the hell out of me. What was up with that picture at the end from 1924?? Does it mean Jack Nicholsan was a ghost the whole time????

If you are interested in a thorough analysis of it check out this link.

http://collativelearning.com/the%20shining.html

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Fighter · 10-05-2009, 03:58 AM

They don't make it like them anymore!

Kubrick at his finest

chemokidd · 10-05-2009, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Duffy12

If you are interested in a thorough analysis of it check out this link.

http://collativelearning.com/the%20shining.html

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man that was crazy haha I've never noticed any of those things in the movie

chemokidd · 10-05-2009, 04:01 AM

well the maze I have but not the native american things

DMC86X · 10-05-2009, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Duffy12

If you are interested in a thorough analysis of it check out this link.

http://collativelearning.com/the%20shining.html

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Very interesting. Thanks for the link. I havent watched part 3 yet. I was wondering if it was safe to download. Im weary of viruses these days. thanx

TTC1984 · 10-05-2009, 04:21 AM

I'm going with the reincarnation theory. Jack says something along the lines of the place looking familiar or if it feels like he's been there before. And that "you've always been the caretaker" line, as well. All signs point to it.

ZedsDead · 10-05-2009, 05:01 AM

Thanks for the link Duffy, very informative.

surfdude12 · 10-05-2009, 05:13 AM

only problem with the reincarnation theory is that, even if he was a reincarnation of the former guy, all that means is he may have his memories/thoughts/etc, but that still wouldnt change the physical ink on the physical picture in the hotel wall. unless of course, he was a clone reincarnation.

i haven't read the links posted in this thread, but on the audio commentary of the blu-ray, i thought i heard something about how, upon dying in the maze, jack would have become "absorbed" into the hotel grounds. this "absorption" may have caused the photo to change. then jack may become one of the roaming ghosts of the hotel. we already know that there are real (not imaginary) ghosts in the hotel, capable of actual physical acts, as one physically unlocked the freezer door for jack.

DMC86X · 10-05-2009, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Duffy12

If you are interested in a thorough analysis of it check out this link.

http://collativelearning.com/the%20shining.html

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Cant get the part 3 link to work

TATTOORAY · 10-05-2009, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by surfdude12

only problem with the reincarnation theory is that, even if he was a reincarnation of the former guy, all that means is he may have his memories/thoughts/etc, but that still wouldnt change the physical ink on the physical picture in the hotel wall. unless of course, he was a clone reincarnation.

i haven't read the links posted in this thread, but on the audio commentary of the blu-ray, i thought i heard something about how, upon dying in the maze, jack would have become "absorbed" into the hotel grounds. this "absorption" may have caused the photo to change. then jack may become one of the roaming ghosts of the hotel. we already know that there are real (not imaginary) ghosts in the hotel, capable of actual physical acts, as one physically unlocked the freezer door for jack.

I agree with this take as well. I never thought about it much. I just took it as saying that Jack was finally home where he belonged.

This film is a masterpiece in direction, sound design and acting, by the way.

Kryptonic · 10-05-2009, 08:28 AM

I always took it to mean that he had become a part of the hotel by the end and the picture signifyed his acceptance by the other spirits as part of the hotel.

But really, it depends on the viewer. Nothing's concrete and you could look at the film as if they're all just hallucinating and there aren't actually any ghosts if you want.

blubryant · 10-05-2009, 05:57 PM

I read in that link, that on Jack's desk there was a 1999 New Year's Eve photo of them at the hotel with Jack in it, but it was cut from the final film. Don't know why, but when I read that I got a chill down my spine and I don't even know if it was actually a cut picture, or some guy just saying so. Regardless, this movie is a masterpiece I remember seeing it when I was way too young lol, good times.

Lacit170 · 10-05-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by blubryant

I read in that link, that on Jack's desk there was a 1999 New Year's Eve photo of them at the hotel with Jack in it, but it was cut from the final film. Don't know why, but when I read that I got a chill down my spine and I don't even know if it was actually a cut picture, or some guy just saying so. Regardless, this movie is a masterpiece I remember seeing it when I was way too young lol, good times.

yup, this is true... remember reading all about this movie a few months ago and this was part of it... theres a few deleted scenes from the movie...

Pondosinatra · 10-05-2009, 07:56 PM

My take on it was that it was reincarnation....

Red Rum! Red Rum!

Sponge-worthy · 10-05-2009, 08:00 PM

Well given that the resort is so thoroughly haunted as to manifest physical effects within, there's no guarantee that the picture itself is genuine. Once Jack 'sold his soul' to the hotel, so to speak, he may now be yet another spirit haunting the place, his visage appearing in pictures, and whatnot.

Fighter · 10-05-2009, 09:55 PM

Excellent film...I never get tired of this flick. I have a love/hate for Kubrick

10-05-2009, 03:11 AM	#1
DMC86X Power Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Baton Rouge, LA Blu-ray collection:24 Trading Score:90	The Shining Question??? OK just watched this and loved it but the end confused the hell out of me. What was up with that picture at the end from 1924?? Does it mean Jack Nicholsan was a ghost the whole time????

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10-05-2009, 04:01 AM	#8
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10-05-2009, 04:21 AM	#10
TTC1984 Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Vegas Blu-ray reviews:34 Trading Score:41	I'm going with the reincarnation theory. Jack says something along the lines of the place looking familiar or if it feels like he's been there before. And that "you've always been the caretaker" line, as well. All signs point to it.

10-05-2009, 05:01 AM	#11
ZedsDead Senior Member Member since:Jul 2009 Home Theater Gallery:28 Blu-ray collection:94	Thanks for the link Duffy, very informative.

10-05-2009, 05:13 AM	#12
surfdude12 Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Club Loop Blu-ray collection:343 Blu-ray reviews:112 Trading Score:1	only problem with the reincarnation theory is that, even if he was a reincarnation of the former guy, all that means is he may have his memories/thoughts/etc, but that still wouldnt change the physical ink on the physical picture in the hotel wall. unless of course, he was a clone reincarnation. i haven't read the links posted in this thread, but on the audio commentary of the blu-ray, i thought i heard something about how, upon dying in the maze, jack would have become "absorbed" into the hotel grounds. this "absorption" may have caused the photo to change. then jack may become one of the roaming ghosts of the hotel. we already know that there are real (not imaginary) ghosts in the hotel, capable of actual physical acts, as one physically unlocked the freezer door for jack.

10-05-2009, 08:28 AM	#15
Kryptonic Suspended Member since:Jul 2009 Trading Score:45	I always took it to mean that he had become a part of the hotel by the end and the picture signifyed his acceptance by the other spirits as part of the hotel. But really, it depends on the viewer. Nothing's concrete and you could look at the film as if they're all just hallucinating and there aren't actually any ghosts if you want.

10-05-2009, 05:57 PM	#16
blubryant Active Member Member since:Jun 2009 Location:Canada Blu-ray collection:265 Blu-ray reviews:1	I read in that link, that on Jack's desk there was a 1999 New Year's Eve photo of them at the hotel with Jack in it, but it was cut from the final film. Don't know why, but when I read that I got a chill down my spine and I don't even know if it was actually a cut picture, or some guy just saying so. Regardless, this movie is a masterpiece I remember seeing it when I was way too young lol, good times.

10-05-2009, 07:56 PM	#18
Pondosinatra Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Calgary, Alberta Home Theater Gallery:45 Trading Score:2	My take on it was that it was reincarnation.... Red Rum! Red Rum!

10-05-2009, 08:00 PM	#19
Sponge-worthy Blu-ray Guru Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Southwest, USA PSN: Sponge-worthy Blu-ray collection:43	Well given that the resort is so thoroughly haunted as to manifest physical effects within, there's no guarantee that the picture itself is genuine. Once Jack 'sold his soul' to the hotel, so to speak, he may now be yet another spirit haunting the place, his visage appearing in pictures, and whatnot.

10-05-2009, 09:55 PM	#20
Fighter Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2009 Location:☣☣☣☣☣ Blu-ray collection:14	Excellent film...I never get tired of this flick. I have a love/hate for Kubrick

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