Win7, Snow Leopard and db Phil Schiller - Blu-ray Forum

Zvi · 10-15-2009, 05:20 PM

So, Win7 is about to go out... Snow leopard is out.. And Apple execs are trashing Windows as usual.

This time it's a bit overboard though. Even for the Apple marketing. Phil Schiller on Windows 7.

For one, what did they expect, win7 would look become OSX? And what's up with Mac OS, with every release it looks different? I know Apple never really bothered with backwards comparability and developers in general, but what's their problem anyway.

All that while Win7 isn't out, and Snow Leopard is pretty well laden in bugs. With the infamous quest account bug being at the top.
It took apple few days to even acknowledge the problem and not clear how long till it's fixed. Still, it's always a good time to trash competitors no matter how bad your own product is...

P.S. Meanwhile, if you upgraded to Snow Leopard and deeply believe that Apple always "virtually bug and virus free" software, for now, refrain from logging on with guest account, well, don't let anyone use guest account, there's a good chance that on logoff it'll delete other users home directories. Which on Unix based systems means pretty much everything for that user.

P.P.S. There is a way to restore apparently - Restore deleted home dir. Interestingly that involves backups and long instructions, and whatever else Schiller trashing Win7 for. Oh, and all that works if time machine was running.

Footloose301 · 10-16-2009, 11:20 AM

Hmmm. I'm using Snow Leopard and haven't had any problems at all. Good thing I don't use a guest account at all.

Zvi · 10-16-2009, 04:42 PM

Brave soul

I would be very hesitant allowing guests, especially teens using my comp with admin account no matter what OS.

jadedeath · 10-16-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Zvi

So, Win7 is about to go out... Snow leopard is out.. And Apple execs are trashing Windows as usual.

This time it's a bit overboard though. Even for the Apple marketing. Phil Schiller on Windows 7.

For one, what did they expect, win7 would look become OSX? And what's up with Mac OS, with every release it looks different? I know Apple never really bothered with backwards comparability and developers in general, but what's their problem anyway.

All that while Win7 isn't out, and Snow Leopard is pretty well laden in bugs. With the infamous quest account bug being at the top.
It took apple few days to even acknowledge the problem and not clear how long till it's fixed. Still, it's always a good time to trash competitors no matter how bad your own product is...

P.S. Meanwhile, if you upgraded to Snow Leopard and deeply believe that Apple always "virtually bug and virus free" software, for now, refrain from logging on with guest account, well, don't let anyone use guest account, there's a good chance that on logoff it'll delete other users home directories. Which on Unix based systems means pretty much everything for that user.

P.P.S. There is a way to restore apparently - Restore deleted home dir. Interestingly that involves backups and long instructions, and whatever else Schiller trashing Win7 for. Oh, and all that works if time machine was running.

Why all the Apple hate? Do you own Microsoft stock?

Logan

Zvi · 10-16-2009, 06:06 PM

I figure,U should ask Apple, why all the smugness

BTW, I honestly tried to warn you about the potential danger, since you are one of those who believes Apple products are flawless. Despite our differences, I wouldn't really want to see U wiping out your account.

My rant was about Apple trashing Win7 before it's out with that sort of problem in their own OS. And bashing Win7 upgradeability when Win7 supports old hardware and Snow Leo simply dropped support for G4 and other hardware. some from 2005...

Apparently you and Apple think crapping on everyone is Apple's god given right... I don't.

BStecke · 10-16-2009, 10:23 PM

Been using OSX for three years and haven't had a single problem

I hate using my Windows machine on the rare occasion that I do.

jadedeath · 10-16-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Zvi

I figure,U should ask Apple, why all the smugness

BTW, I honestly tried to warn you about the potential danger, since you are one of those who believes Apple products are flawless. Despite our differences, I wouldn't really want to see U wiping out your account.

I don't think it's flawless, I just don't think that the guest account bug is something that anyone who doesn't let anyone else use their computer has anything to worry about.

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My rant was about Apple trashing Win7 before it's out with that sort of problem in their own OS. And bashing Win7 upgradeability when Win7 supports old hardware and Snow Leo simply dropped support for G4 and other hardware. some from 2005...

Coke has been bashing Pepsi for years {and vice versa} when there is problem with both products.

Do you have a problem with that as well?

Or perhaps having a problem with THIS article?: http://mashable.com/2009/08/29/apple-tv-industry/

Maybe this one?: http://www.macworld.com/article/1410...le_scared.html

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Apparently you and Apple think crapping on everyone is Apple's god given right... I don't.

Apparently, you're arguing for just one side.

And your statement is made out to look like Microsoft has a spotless reputation. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Logan

toef · 10-16-2009, 11:00 PM

I have nothing against Windows, but I always thought the sort of permission feature thing they added in with Vista was a bit pointless.

Why do I have to "allow" a program to be installed? If I tried installing it, doesn't that mean I want it installed? If someone broke into my house and is installing malware on my computer, can't they just hit "allow"?

Apple gets this right by requiring a password when installing most programs or making significant changes on the computer.

I don't get why the OP is so defensive anyway. If Windows is so great, and Apple is such crap, why even bother responding to what they say?

Zvi · 10-17-2009, 03:00 AM

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I don't think it's flawless, I just don't think that the guest account bug is something that anyone who doesn't let anyone else use their computer has anything to worry about.

Well, that depends who and when... If you pal asks you to let him to check his account, or your kid, nephew etc... Things happen and that one is pretty common. Besides, what you said might be true for you, but does that invalidate the problem for the rest of the ppl who do use guest accounts?

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Coke has been bashing Pepsi for years {and vice versa} when there is problem with both products.
Do you have a problem with that as well?

Not really, since I don't drink neither, nor interact with any of that on daily basis.

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Apparently, you're arguing for just one side.

One particular case. Otherwise, if I was on a quest to bash Apple daily, then yes, they do provide material for next decade or two. BTW, can you explain to me, how MS being an a$$ makes it right for the ze Apple to be even a bigger a$$?

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And your statement is made out to look like Microsoft has a spotless reputation. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I agree on the second part, about MS reputation, but how did my post made MS reputation any better?.

My objection was Apple is bashing Win7 for complicated upgrade path, which Apple made very "simple" by dropping support for all that old hardware, while MS did go through the trouble to support that same old hardware. At the same time having that guest account bug out there.
Those are the facts, not really debatable.

P.S. BTW, one of the articles you linked refers to "Apple Tax" which apple analyst concludes is false and stupid accusation. Given the 5 year time span that was analyzed there, and considering that G4, and lots of other hardware no longer supported by Apple is less than 5 years old, it doesn't seem that stupid, to the contrary, analyst claiming it isn't true seems dishonest.

Zvi · 10-17-2009, 03:10 AM

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