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supersix4 · 11-22-2009, 02:12 AM

Our new speakers came in today to replace one of our rooms that still had tv speakers, anyway it has 4 connectors, and when I would plug it into the bottom connector via monster banana plugs (that had been used in my room, just the day before), all that came out was bass and muffled sound/voices. So I took it around the house hooked it to four of our current amps that are up and running and found the same thing on each. So I then tried to plug it into the upper banana plug connector and boom tweeters going, and upper drivers are working, but now no bass and no sound coming from the bottom(almost opposite of what was happening when it was plugged in the bottom - the no muffling)

Just wondering if anyone could provide any input?

Icecoldblue · 11-22-2009, 03:07 AM

Did you go through all the packaging and check to see if there is 4 metal plates?

The plates link the woofers and tweeters if you only have one pair of connections (ie. not bi-wiring/bi-amping).

Should look something like this:

supersix4 · 11-22-2009, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Icecoldblue

Did you go through all the packaging and check to see if there is 4 metal plates?

The plates link the woofers and tweeters if you only have one pair of connections (ie. not bi-wiring/bi-amping).

Should look something like this:

No, I'll run down and check but thanks for the response!

supersix4 · 11-22-2009, 03:17 AM

*No

, I didn't see anything like that they have plastic around the connectors thats REAL tight.

The packaging that came only has a cleaning cloth, and a black and red short wire that has one side spade and one side banana plug.

Icecoldblue · 11-22-2009, 03:25 AM

That's good actually. Sounds like it just uses wires instead of a plate.

So what you need to do is unscrew the bottom two binding posts, put on the spade connector, and screw them back in. Now insert the Banana plug end in the top binding posts. Finally, put in your set of plugs that are from the receiver into the bottom binding posts. I'm assuming you have banana plugs, if it's bare wire, unscrew the bottom two again and put them in with the spade connectors. That's pretty much it.

Steve · 11-22-2009, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by supersix4

*No

, I didn't see anything like that they have plastic around the connectors thats REAL tight.

The packaging that came only has a cleaning cloth, and a black and red short wire that has one side spade and one side banana plug.

It's not a problem. You can cut short pieces of speaker wire (about 4" or so) and use that to connect the upper and lower sets of binding posts. As usual make sure no stray wires from the + side touch anything on the - side. Tighten the binding posts down on the wires and then just plug your banana plugs back into either set of posts and you should be fine.

I would recommend contacting whoever you bought the speakers from though, and letting them know you should have received the factory jumpers but didn't. You may have to contact the speaker manufacturer to get the sets you were supposed to get.

EDIT: Icecoldblue beat me to it.

crazyBLUE · 11-22-2009, 03:55 AM

You can do something like this , It will work the same way as the connector plates .

Icecoldblue · 11-22-2009, 04:01 AM

Do you have a closer pic, Crazy?

Edit: NVM you added another pic

crazyBLUE · 11-22-2009, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Icecoldblue

Do you have a closer pic, Crazy?

Edit: NVM you added another pic

No , But I can have one in about 5 minutes if you want !!

Icecoldblue · 11-22-2009, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

No , But I can have one in about 5 minutes if you want !!

If you have time, sure, why not.

supersix4 · 11-22-2009, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Icecoldblue

That's good actually. Sounds like it just uses wires instead of a plate.

So what you need to do is unscrew the bottom two binding posts, put on the spade connector, and screw them back in. Now insert the Banana plug end in the top binding posts. Finally, put in your set of plugs that are from the receiver into the bottom binding posts. I'm assuming you have banana plugs, if it's bare wire, unscrew the bottom two again and put them in with the spade connectors. That's pretty much it.

thanks bro you saved me with that first picture, I went downstairs was looking around found that, and started looking at it more and more, I spaded the end to the amp wire then banana plugged the one not in use and boom worked like a charm

saved my life lol...

This was my first time ever hooking up higher up speakers since all are other high end gear was done by our av store

now I'm smart

Thanks for all the input guys, I am speaker smart now

crazyBLUE · 11-22-2009, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Icecoldblue

If you have time, sure, why not.

supersix4 · 11-22-2009, 04:21 AM

Thanks for the help crazy had you been the first to post it wouldn't have taken me 20 minutes to figure that out lol.

But its all good now!

crazyBLUE · 11-22-2009, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by supersix4

Thanks for the help crazy had you been the first to post it wouldn't have taken me 20 minutes to figure that out lol.

But its all good now!

Glad it all worked out .

supersix4 · 11-22-2009, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

Glad it all worked out .

I am too lol I'd have been the one trying to lug 100 pound speakers to the store tomorrow lol

My dad never told me till today, but our av store did ALL our audio work in his audio room lol, so he's as illiterate as me

Icecoldblue · 11-22-2009, 04:27 AM

Glad I could help Supersix4.

Crazy, that must've taken a while to get two wires into one plug. I would've just bought a pair of open screw banana plugs for the bridge, and then shove my regular plugs into that one. But yours is definitely cleaner than that idea.

Icecoldblue · 11-22-2009, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by supersix4

I am too lol I'd have been the one trying to lug 100 pound speakers to the store tomorrow lol

My dad never told me till today, but our av store did ALL our audio work in his audio room lol, so he's as illiterate as me

Ok, now I'm curious. What speakers did you get today?

supersix4 · 11-22-2009, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Icecoldblue

Glad I could help Supersix4.

I am too

I appreciate it.

I'm speaker smart now

, no-one has to know what happened except everyone who reads this

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Originally Posted by Icecoldblue

Ok, now I'm curious. What speakers did you get today?

They were 803d B&W speakers to replace our main tv room, since almost everywhere else in the house that mattered we had dedicated audio gear.

crazyBLUE · 11-22-2009, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by supersix4

I am too lol I'd have been the one trying to lug 100 pound speakers to the store tomorrow lol

My dad never told me till today, but our av store did ALL our audio work in his audio room lol, so he's as illiterate as me

I learned how to do all this stuff here , So I was glad to help !

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Originally Posted by Icecoldblue

Glad I could help Supersix4.

Crazy, that must've taken a while to get two wires into one plug. I would've just bought a pair of open screw banana plugs for the bridge, and then shove my regular plugs into that one. But yours is definitely cleaner than that idea.

Thats 12AWG wire & although it is big , Both just fit right in the plug

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Originally Posted by Icecoldblue

Ok, now I'm curious. What speakers did you get today?

ME TOO !!

Icecoldblue · 11-22-2009, 04:36 AM

Nice!

I should've just told you to ship them to me so I could fix the problem...

11-22-2009, 02:12 AM	#1
supersix4 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray collection:572 Blu-ray reviews: 53 Trading Score:3	New Speaker Problem?? Our new speakers came in today to replace one of our rooms that still had tv speakers, anyway it has 4 connectors, and when I would plug it into the bottom connector via monster banana plugs (that had been used in my room, just the day before), all that came out was bass and muffled sound/voices. So I took it around the house hooked it to four of our current amps that are up and running and found the same thing on each. So I then tried to plug it into the upper banana plug connector and boom tweeters going, and upper drivers are working, but now no bass and no sound coming from the bottom(almost opposite of what was happening when it was plugged in the bottom - the no muffling) Just wondering if anyone could provide any input? Last edited by supersix4; 11-22-2009 at 02:21 AM.

11-22-2009, 03:55 AM	#7
crazyBLUE Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Pacific Northwest Home Theater Gallery:89 Blu-ray collection:479 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 38 Trading Score:30	You can do something like this , It will work the same way as the connector plates . Last edited by crazyBLUE; 11-22-2009 at 03:59 AM.

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11-22-2009, 03:07 AM	#2
Icecoldblue Active Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Calgary, AB Home Theater Gallery:11 Blu-ray collection:69	Did you go through all the packaging and check to see if there is 4 metal plates? The plates link the woofers and tweeters if you only have one pair of connections (ie. not bi-wiring/bi-amping). Should look something like this:

11-22-2009, 03:17 AM	#4
supersix4 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray collection:572 Blu-ray reviews: 53 Trading Score:3	*No , I didn't see anything like that they have plastic around the connectors thats REAL tight. The packaging that came only has a cleaning cloth, and a black and red short wire that has one side spade and one side banana plug.

11-22-2009, 03:25 AM	#5
Icecoldblue Active Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Calgary, AB Home Theater Gallery:11 Blu-ray collection:69	That's good actually. Sounds like it just uses wires instead of a plate. So what you need to do is unscrew the bottom two binding posts, put on the spade connector, and screw them back in. Now insert the Banana plug end in the top binding posts. Finally, put in your set of plugs that are from the receiver into the bottom binding posts. I'm assuming you have banana plugs, if it's bare wire, unscrew the bottom two again and put them in with the spade connectors. That's pretty much it.

11-22-2009, 04:01 AM	#8
Icecoldblue Active Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Calgary, AB Home Theater Gallery:11 Blu-ray collection:69	Do you have a closer pic, Crazy? Edit: NVM you added another pic

11-22-2009, 04:21 AM	#13
supersix4 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray collection:572 Blu-ray reviews: 53 Trading Score:3	Thanks for the help crazy had you been the first to post it wouldn't have taken me 20 minutes to figure that out lol. But its all good now!

11-22-2009, 04:27 AM	#16
Icecoldblue Active Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Calgary, AB Home Theater Gallery:11 Blu-ray collection:69	Glad I could help Supersix4. Crazy, that must've taken a while to get two wires into one plug. I would've just bought a pair of open screw banana plugs for the bridge, and then shove my regular plugs into that one. But yours is definitely cleaner than that idea.

11-22-2009, 04:36 AM	#20
Icecoldblue Active Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Calgary, AB Home Theater Gallery:11 Blu-ray collection:69	Nice! I should've just told you to ship them to me so I could fix the problem...

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