BD-J limits number of viewings? - Blu-ray Forum

baccusboy · 07-28-2007, 03:29 PM

Is it true that future plans for BD-J may include selling blu-ray movie discs that become useless after a certain number of views?

I read that this is indeed a possibility with BD-J, and that the option for doing so with the technology is there.

RichiPuppy · 07-28-2007, 03:31 PM

lol, don't believe everything you read.

buckshot · 07-28-2007, 03:36 PM

I heard that blu ray causes tooth decay and eats kittens!

Maximus · 07-28-2007, 03:36 PM

How would the disc know?

It would have to access a central database, but considering that ethernet is not mandatory, this is pretty impossible.

The Don · 07-28-2007, 04:06 PM

I got this rash on my nether regions from watching too many blu-rays...

EVERYONE STOP NOW!

ottscay · 07-28-2007, 04:13 PM

Um, since BD-J could create a virtual machine that stays in persistant storage, I would think the applet in memory could simply count the number of times a disk was played. Of course, that would only work in machines with persistent memory, so it wouldn't be possible to build a unified sales architecture around it.

Also, the studios would be pissing off the very crowd trying hardest to avoid the rental-based media market. I highly doubt there is (or ever will be) any serious attempt to find a way to impliment this on HD optical media.

VOD and DLs on the other hand...

Blu_J · 07-28-2007, 04:24 PM

uuuhhhh....no

WriteSimply · 07-28-2007, 04:54 PM

Only if the persistent memory is massive. Right now, there is a minimum for Profile 1.1 (512kb) and BD-Live (1GB?). It could work except that the studio creating these discs would have to rely on the user not watching a lot of discs.

A DIVX-like methodology like this may require a new kind of player. Just like there is a special screener DVD player that Academy voters can watch movies at home that have yet to be released yet on DVD.

fuad

phloyd · 07-28-2007, 05:04 PM

BD-J makes it pretty much possible to do almost anything.

HDi makes it possible to have extras on a disc that you can only watch if you connect to the internet. This was demonstrated on Freedom Part 1.

It is up to us to tell the studios to go to hell if they have features that we don't like.

teacher_man99 · 07-28-2007, 05:10 PM

This sounds like more of an option for software (Microsoft's ears perk up). Only available for install a certain number of times and then, gone! Also sounds a bit, "Inspector Gadget"...

beware, this thread will self destruct in 20 more postings....

monkyman · 07-28-2007, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teacher_man99

beware, this thread will self destruct in 20 more postings....

19 now...

The Big Blue · 07-28-2007, 07:39 PM

Boom!

Mr. Joshua · 07-28-2007, 07:41 PM

I've heard after 3 views of movies with BD-J, Skynet will become self aware on August 29, 2007... LOL...

dialog_gvf · 07-28-2007, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baccusboy

Is it true that future plans for BD-J may include selling blu-ray movie discs that become useless after a certain number of views?

I read that this is indeed a possibility with BD-J, and that the option for doing so with the technology is there.

I suppose it is a possibility. BD-J is a full application language, so clearly they could do it. But, I've heard of no plans.

But, it would be easier with a format with mandatory Internet access. Is there such a thing?

I would expect there is enough scripting capability in HDi to do it too.

Cain · 07-28-2007, 08:50 PM

Where does this stuff get started ??? Rumors like that spread fast.

BorrowedTime · 07-28-2007, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cain

Where does this stuff get started ??? Rumors like that spread fast.

AVS?

dialog_gvf · 07-28-2007, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cain

Where does this stuff get started ??? Rumors like that spread fast.

There's always someone out there pushing the next anti-Blu-ray rumour. I've always figured Blu-ray had the win from the beginning because so much of HD DVD propaganda is anti-Blu ray instead of pro-HD DVD.

As I used to say on AVS:

Instead of telling us all the time why we shouldn't buy Blu-ray, how about telling us why we should buy HD DVD.

And a certain Microsoft vice president is responsible for a disturbing number of the rumours:

Let's see:

- DL BD-50 is science fiction (clearly nonsense)
- Blu-ray will never be cheaper to make than HD DVD (already wrong for BD-50 v. combos)
- BD+ will aid hackers
- HD PiP has been removed from the BD Profile 1.1 (complete nonsense)

Counter-rumour (baseless): Funny how a format with mandatory Internet connectivity and a browser-type interactive system from Microsoft is expected to be totally trusted. Goodness knows there have been no issues with such things in the past.

Stuie · 07-28-2007, 10:36 PM

12...

nhaase · 07-28-2007, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckshot

I heard that blu ray causes tooth decay and eats kittens!

From Family Guy: BD-J killed my father, and raped my mother.

Aaron · 07-28-2007, 10:40 PM

I heard it on teh internets so it must be true!

07-28-2007, 03:29 PM	#1
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RichiPuppy Active Member Member since:Mar 2007	lol, don't believe everything you read.

07-28-2007, 03:36 PM	#3
buckshot Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Location:san die ego Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	I heard that blu ray causes tooth decay and eats kittens!

07-28-2007, 03:36 PM	#4
Maximus Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Nov 2006	How would the disc know? It would have to access a central database, but considering that ethernet is not mandatory, this is pretty impossible.

07-28-2007, 04:06 PM	#5
The Don Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Apr 2006 Blu-ray reviews:12 Trading Score:2	I got this rash on my nether regions from watching too many blu-rays... EVERYONE STOP NOW!

07-28-2007, 04:13 PM	#6
ottscay Active Member Member since:Apr 2007	Um, since BD-J could create a virtual machine that stays in persistant storage, I would think the applet in memory could simply count the number of times a disk was played. Of course, that would only work in machines with persistent memory, so it wouldn't be possible to build a unified sales architecture around it. Also, the studios would be pissing off the very crowd trying hardest to avoid the rental-based media market. I highly doubt there is (or ever will be) any serious attempt to find a way to impliment this on HD optical media. VOD and DLs on the other hand...

07-28-2007, 04:24 PM	#7
Blu_J Active Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:SoCal	uuuhhhh....no

07-28-2007, 04:54 PM	#8
WriteSimply Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	Only if the persistent memory is massive. Right now, there is a minimum for Profile 1.1 (512kb) and BD-Live (1GB?). It could work except that the studio creating these discs would have to rely on the user not watching a lot of discs. A DIVX-like methodology like this may require a new kind of player. Just like there is a special screener DVD player that Academy voters can watch movies at home that have yet to be released yet on DVD. fuad

07-28-2007, 05:04 PM	#9
phloyd Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2003 Location:California Trading Score:5	BD-J makes it pretty much possible to do almost anything. HDi makes it possible to have extras on a disc that you can only watch if you connect to the internet. This was demonstrated on Freedom Part 1. It is up to us to tell the studios to go to hell if they have features that we don't like.

07-28-2007, 05:10 PM	#10
teacher_man99 Active Member Member since:Mar 2007	This sounds like more of an option for software (Microsoft's ears perk up). Only available for install a certain number of times and then, gone! Also sounds a bit, "Inspector Gadget"... beware, this thread will self destruct in 20 more postings....

07-28-2007, 07:39 PM	#12
The Big Blue Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:98 Blu-ray reviews:1	Boom!

07-28-2007, 07:41 PM	#13
Mr. Joshua Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:153	I've heard after 3 views of movies with BD-J, Skynet will become self aware on August 29, 2007... LOL...

07-28-2007, 08:50 PM	#15
Cain Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Columbia, SC	Where does this stuff get started ??? Rumors like that spread fast.

07-28-2007, 10:36 PM	#18
Stuie Active Member Member since:Apr 2007	12...

07-28-2007, 10:40 PM	#20
Aaron Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Oklahoma City Home Theater Gallery:3 Blu-ray collection:33 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:4	I heard it on teh internets so it must be true!

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