Speculation on PS4 - Blu-ray Forum

Whatstreet · 12-29-2009, 07:37 PM

http://http://www.tomsguide.com/us/S...news-5442.html

From Tom's Hardware

"More next-gen console talk today, this time referring to the PlayStation 4.

Earlier today, we reported that Intel and Nintendo might be collaborating on the next Nintendo-based console (not the HD Wii). Part inside scoop, part speculation, the report from Impress Watch said that Intel is trying to get Nintendo to jump onto the Larrabee bandwagon. While that may or may not be true, Nintendo has made it known that it's currently working on the blueprint for the next console.

Now Japan's Impress Watch has set its sights on Sony, reporting that Sony is shopping around for alternatives to the Cell architecture. Given the level of frustration expressed to Sony on a developer level, the move isn't surprising. Sony originally planned to use Intel's Larrabee GPGPU alongside the Cell in the next console (PS4). However, Intel itself has put this technology on "indefinite hold," and Sony canned the idea due to low power efficiency and 3D graphics pipeline performance.

Andriasang adds to the report, indicating that Sony also considered a modified, upgraded version of the Cell processor. This revision would grant SPUs direct access to the main memory so that programmers can program for a single memory space, making the process easier overall. But that too seems to be out in preference to the PC-like multi-core environment used by Sony's rival console, the Xbox 360.

Because the three console contenders are looking into the next generation hardware designs, it's speculated that the next wave of new hardware will begin sometime in 2012. Impress Watch said that it takes around twenty-four months to take a system from concept to final product. If that is indeed the case, we're betting the next Nintendo console will be the first out the door in Q4 2012, with the latter two "hardcore" platforms hitting the market in Q4 2013.

Just because the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 still offers a viable lifespan through 2014 or 2015, that doesn't mean the new generation can't spring into "life" a year or so before the previous generation's "death." Heck, the PlayStation 2 is still thriving."

Rike255 · 12-29-2009, 07:45 PM

I hope the PS4 comes no sooner than Q4 2013. Even then I'll likely wait a year or so before buying the next system.

2012 (like some are anticipating) or anything earlier is too early for me.

Don't really care when the new Wii comes out, unless it does something really neat I think I'll let mine (read: girlfriends) sit and do nothing rather than invest more into it.

mikejet · 12-29-2009, 07:46 PM

I think it's still to early to talk about the next generation of consoles.

Moefiz · 12-29-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mikejet

I think it's still to early to talk about the next generation of consoles.

I agree...

progers13 · 12-29-2009, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikejet

I think it's still to early to talk about the next generation of consoles.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moefiz

I agree...

Me too...

bandit29 · 12-29-2009, 07:54 PM

too early.. get back to me in 2015 or so lol

Rike255 · 12-29-2009, 07:55 PM

Seems most people share my opinion. Good, hopefully the system makers listen. A laughable thought.

mikejet · 12-29-2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rike255

Seems most people share my opinion. Good, hopefully the system makers listen. A laughable thought.

With games like Uncharted 2 and Ratchet and Clank out, graphics wise we are still early.

Baughman92 · 12-29-2009, 07:59 PM

Yeah, anything before Q4 2013 is too early. I want my moneys worth of gameplay with my 360 and games for several more years.

BlackMamba · 12-29-2009, 08:01 PM

Fans may not want to think about investing in a new generation of consoles, but if Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo didn't already have blueprints drawn up, I'd be disappointed.

BlackMamba · 12-29-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mikejet

With games like Uncharted 2 and Ratchet and Clank out, graphics wise we are still early.

Critter Crunch > All!

Darkhawk9587 · 12-29-2009, 08:05 PM

They have barely begun to scratch the surface of the PS3's full potential (IMO). It's far too early to discuss a new console.

DonRSD · 12-29-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mikejet

With games like Uncharted 2 and Ratchet and Clank out, graphics wise we are still early.

the 360 will be 1st to come out as its dated tech.

ps3 exclusive games look fantastic

360 is holding this generation of gaming back

and while we are at it.....bring back nfl 2k series

mikejet · 12-29-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DonRSD

the 360 will be 1st to come out as its dated tech.

ps3 exclusive games look fantastic

360 is holding this generation of gaming back

and while we are at it.....bring back nfl 2k series

No one brought that up considering this is a PS3 discussion. The PS3's graphics are enough to carry on for a few more years so why even bring that up? It's irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

GLaDOS · 12-29-2009, 09:10 PM

Thought that would take a couple of years to happen, I'd really like the PlayStation 4 to be developer-friendly so that more developers would bring more games to the console. I know the PlayStation 3 is a pain to program, but I guess people still need to get used to the architecture of the Cell processor.

Kor-ray · 12-29-2009, 09:56 PM

Um yeah lets wait till 2015-2016
I don’t want to have to buy a new system, im still enjoying my wii,ps3, and xbox keep the EXCLUSIVES for each coming I dont want anything new

Nikki_Li · 12-29-2009, 10:01 PM

if Sony was smart they'd not even bother releasing a PS4, I mean they've lost way too much money on the PS3 since it just didn't sell well at all and they're still losing money on every PS3 they sell

if they do go ahead and release a PS4 they might as well file for bankruptcy

Rike255 · 12-29-2009, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikki_Li

if Sony was smart they'd not even bother releasing a PS4, I mean they've lost way too much money on the PS3 since it just didn't sell well at all and they're still losing money on every PS3 they sell

if they do go ahead and release a PS4 they might as well file for bankruptcy

Tell us how you really feel!

silversnake · 12-29-2009, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikki_Li

if Sony was smart they'd not even bother releasing a PS4, I mean they've lost way too much money on the PS3 since it just didn't sell well at all and they're still losing money on every PS3 they sell

if they do go ahead and release a PS4 they might as well file for bankruptcy

Because this makes a lot of sense ....

Nikki_Li · 12-29-2009, 10:06 PM

I don't get Sony

they usually make decent products but they just discontinued the 120gig slim and what for? the whole point was to bring the price down to 300 and now that they've discontinued it they only have the 250gig available for 350, so wtf?

i'm guessing they did this to make up for all the money they lost but what's the deal?

12-29-2009, 07:37 PM	#1
Whatstreet Active Member Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Fremont, CA USA	Speculation on PS4 http://http://www.tomsguide.com/us/S...news-5442.html From Tom's Hardware "More next-gen console talk today, this time referring to the PlayStation 4. Earlier today, we reported that Intel and Nintendo might be collaborating on the next Nintendo-based console (not the HD Wii). Part inside scoop, part speculation, the report from Impress Watch said that Intel is trying to get Nintendo to jump onto the Larrabee bandwagon. While that may or may not be true, Nintendo has made it known that it's currently working on the blueprint for the next console. Now Japan's Impress Watch has set its sights on Sony, reporting that Sony is shopping around for alternatives to the Cell architecture. Given the level of frustration expressed to Sony on a developer level, the move isn't surprising. Sony originally planned to use Intel's Larrabee GPGPU alongside the Cell in the next console (PS4). However, Intel itself has put this technology on "indefinite hold," and Sony canned the idea due to low power efficiency and 3D graphics pipeline performance. Andriasang adds to the report, indicating that Sony also considered a modified, upgraded version of the Cell processor. This revision would grant SPUs direct access to the main memory so that programmers can program for a single memory space, making the process easier overall. But that too seems to be out in preference to the PC-like multi-core environment used by Sony's rival console, the Xbox 360. Because the three console contenders are looking into the next generation hardware designs, it's speculated that the next wave of new hardware will begin sometime in 2012. Impress Watch said that it takes around twenty-four months to take a system from concept to final product. If that is indeed the case, we're betting the next Nintendo console will be the first out the door in Q4 2012, with the latter two "hardcore" platforms hitting the market in Q4 2013. Just because the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 still offers a viable lifespan through 2014 or 2015, that doesn't mean the new generation can't spring into "life" a year or so before the previous generation's "death." Heck, the PlayStation 2 is still thriving."

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12-29-2009, 07:45 PM	#2
Rike255 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:AB, Canada PSNetwork: Rike255 Home Theater Gallery:44 Blu-ray collection:57	I hope the PS4 comes no sooner than Q4 2013. Even then I'll likely wait a year or so before buying the next system. 2012 (like some are anticipating) or anything earlier is too early for me. Don't really care when the new Wii comes out, unless it does something really neat I think I'll let mine (read: girlfriends) sit and do nothing rather than invest more into it.

12-29-2009, 07:46 PM	#3
mikejet Banned Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Los Angeles, CA Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:29	I think it's still to early to talk about the next generation of consoles.

12-29-2009, 07:54 PM	#6
bandit29 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Chicago, IL Blu-ray collection:88 DVD collection:17 MA collection:3 Digital collection:117 Prime collection:1	too early.. get back to me in 2015 or so lol

12-29-2009, 07:55 PM	#7
Rike255 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:AB, Canada PSNetwork: Rike255 Home Theater Gallery:44 Blu-ray collection:57	Seems most people share my opinion. Good, hopefully the system makers listen. A laughable thought.

12-29-2009, 07:59 PM	#9
Baughman92 Banned Member since:Dec 2009	Yeah, anything before Q4 2013 is too early. I want my moneys worth of gameplay with my 360 and games for several more years.

12-29-2009, 08:01 PM	#10
BlackMamba Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2006 Blu-ray reviews:3	Fans may not want to think about investing in a new generation of consoles, but if Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo didn't already have blueprints drawn up, I'd be disappointed.

12-29-2009, 08:05 PM	#12
Darkhawk9587 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Wisconsin 4K collection:66 Blu-ray collection:487 Trading Score:30	They have barely begun to scratch the surface of the PS3's full potential (IMO). It's far too early to discuss a new console.

12-29-2009, 09:10 PM	#15
GLaDOS Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:May 2009 Location:Fujiwara Tofu Shop 4K collection:10 Blu-ray collection:114 Blu-ray reviews: 5	Thought that would take a couple of years to happen, I'd really like the PlayStation 4 to be developer-friendly so that more developers would bring more games to the console. I know the PlayStation 3 is a pain to program, but I guess people still need to get used to the architecture of the Cell processor.

12-29-2009, 09:56 PM	#16
Kor-ray Expert Member Member since:Mar 2009 4K collection:13 Blu-ray collection:196 DVD collection:1 Trading Score:57	Um yeah lets wait till 2015-2016 I don’t want to have to buy a new system, im still enjoying my wii,ps3, and xbox keep the EXCLUSIVES for each coming I dont want anything new

12-29-2009, 10:01 PM	#17
Nikki_Li Banned Member since:Dec 2009	if Sony was smart they'd not even bother releasing a PS4, I mean they've lost way too much money on the PS3 since it just didn't sell well at all and they're still losing money on every PS3 they sell if they do go ahead and release a PS4 they might as well file for bankruptcy

12-29-2009, 10:06 PM	#20
Nikki_Li Banned Member since:Dec 2009	I don't get Sony they usually make decent products but they just discontinued the 120gig slim and what for? the whole point was to bring the price down to 300 and now that they've discontinued it they only have the 250gig available for 350, so wtf? i'm guessing they did this to make up for all the money they lost but what's the deal?

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