3D TV's and Blu-rays "Add On" ?

[SAP12690]

I was wondering what the possibilities where of them selling some sort of "add On" to make existing HD TV's into 3D HD TV's, some sort of something to slide in front of the screen or something. I just bought my Toshiba HD TV but im a sucker for 3D.... and cant really afford to just take down my new TV to get a 3D tv.

[Jimmy Smith]

Originally Posted by SAP12690

I was wondering what the possibilities where of them selling some sort of "add On" to make existing HD TV's into 3D HD TV's, some sort of something to slide in front of the screen or something. I just bought my Toshiba HD TV but im a sucker for 3D.... and cant really afford to just take down my new TV to get a 3D tv.

An add on will only work if your TV is labed "3D ready" meaning it has 120 Hz inputs. If not you need a new television. Plan and simple

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

An add on will only work if your TV is labed "3D ready" meaning it has 120 Hz inputs. If not you need a new television. Plan and simple

Sounds expensive.

[drummerboy_2002]

I really don't think that's possible. Here's the problem: for films on BD and some broadcast material, you're limit to only 24 source frames per second. Other sources can be 30 or 60 frames, but not 120 or 240. 120 and 240 Hz displays either repeat a frame several times, or algorithmically interpolate subframes to be placed between two original frames. If the TV isn't 3D ready, than the repeating or iterpolation doesn't take into account that alternating frames may be from two difference sources (perspectives). An add -on screen filter wouldn't be able to separate the sources properly.

[drummerboy_2002]

That does give me an idea though. I'm not current with all the 3D technology options. I've heard of the shutter glasses, layered displays and stereoscopic images. Maybe this exists, maybe it doesn't, but wouldn't the truest reproduction of a 3D movie be a TV with an alternating verticle/horizontal polarized filter layer in the screen? Then you could use the same 3D glasses you used in the theater in your home. I don't know if a polarized filter could be replicated by special oriented layers of LCD's or not, but I'm sure someone could figure out a solution. At least then it would be fairly cheap to have enough glasses for everyone.
Just a thought.

[kpkelley]

There is already one polarized 3d television available, albeit at a steep price(JVC GD-463D10 MSRP $8000). I believe this is a so called pro-sumer display or commercial display.

It seems that shutter glasses are easier and cheaper to implement as most display manufacturers already have televisions capable of outputting 120fps or more. The polarization implementation of 3d seems to be more costly for hdtv panels.

That being said, it is believed that there will be 3d projectors utilizing both of these technologies, however there have been few announcements. It is speculated that a polarized front projection unit would need greatly increased lumen capability and possibly a new screen material in order to offset the reduction in light resulting from the polarization of the image and glasses.

[drummerboy_2002]

good to know.

[mustang-gt-2002]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

An add on will only work if your TV is labed "3D ready" meaning it has 120 Hz inputs. If not you need a new television. Plan and simple

you are saying the 3-D ready HDTV's have TWO inputs. so my samsung 120Hz LN46A650 wont work. the PS3 is getting the update for 3-D how would that work with one HDMI. I dont know anything about the new 3-D HDTV's please help.

[HDIsMyDomain]

Yeah, I'm not that knowledgeable with this whole 3D thing. I just bought a Sony Bluray player and know that there is going to be a firmware update in the Summer for that 3D thing. That's ALL I know, I would like to see this, but it won't be with EVERY bluray disk I put in it, right? Because even though I think 3D is cool, I couldn't stand everything I watch to be in 3D.

So....what's going on?

[radagast]

Originally Posted by drummerboy_2002

That does give me an idea though. I'm not current with all the 3D technology options. I've heard of the shutter glasses, layered displays and stereoscopic images. Maybe this exists, maybe it doesn't, but wouldn't the truest reproduction of a 3D movie be a TV with an alternating verticle/horizontal polarized filter layer in the screen? Then you could use the same 3D glasses you used in the theater in your home. I don't know if a polarized filter could be replicated by special oriented layers of LCD's or not, but I'm sure someone could figure out a solution. At least then it would be fairly cheap to have enough glasses for everyone.
Just a thought.

The problem is that the polarization type of 3D, also causes a reduction in brightness. Theoretically, shutter type 3D should be as bright as 2D.

[Oniichan]

hey,
did you read Sopranos thread? he has a link to the 72" vizio, the CEO pushed some button on it and it went into 3D mode on the fly, go look for it

[Caesu]

After all this 3D hype, I realized my Samsung DLP HT-5076 states broadly it is, 3D ready. Upon further investigating, I found this link:

http://pages.samsung.com/us/dlp3d/index.html

From what I see it does support stereoscopic 3D which is what movies such as Avatar used. Does this mean I can forgoe the purchase of a new 3D ready HDTV if they ever really do catch on

I would need a 3D capable blu ray player of course.

Whats the call on this one?

[Jeff Kleist]

Yes it will work, you'll get 1080i "checkerboard" 3D so long as your player supports it

[Caesu]

I have to admit, that makes me happy knowing that I can try out the 3D to a certain effect before running to purchase a new HDTV considering I grabbed the Sam DLP brand new on clearance out for 999.99 when the stores started dropping them for LCD/Plasmas. Huge steal imo in retrospect.