PS3 vs Standalone Durability

[chan1490]

Open for discussion:

Ignoring PQ, how does a PS3 compare with a standalone for durability?

I have friends saying that the laser in the PS3 is inferior and if you play movies on it, it will die out faster than a standalone because standalone's are meant only to play movies.

I disagree with their statement.

Any other views?

[clownface]

The PS3 is very durable and it gets firmware upgrades from Sony reguarly. Watching movies should'nt hurt the laser which I would have to be a good one since it also has to play games.

[j_rocca42]

The ps3 is the best overall BD player on the market PERIOD.

[supersix4]

I do agree Lots of updates, All an all it is the best ... but I love all 3 of my blu-ray players lol

[shadowmoon]

Originally Posted by chan1490

Open for discussion:

Ignoring PQ, how does a PS3 compare with a standalone for durability?

I have friends saying that the laser in the PS3 is inferior and if you play movies on it, it will die out faster than a standalone because standalone's are meant only to play movies.

I disagree with their statement.

Any other views?

The reality is, the 2nd gen players and PS3 hasnt even been out for a year yet. It is way too early to say which one is more durable at this point. PS3 can adapt better as technology progresses IMO, so which it will be around longer than having to upgrade from 1st gen to 2nd gen to 10th gen standalones. But from a longevity standpoint, give it another year or 2 then we'll see the failure rates.

[crackinhedz]

How to kill a PS3 Console - Is it really possible ?

How to kill a Ps3 Console
So how good is the console when put under extreme operating pressure and alternating environments The total concept of the Ps3 console instills robustness, stability and durability, the overall package combines the latest chip technology and peripheral advancements. The following results of the console are noteworthy reading and were done under the following guidelines. Results were recorded accurately to provide an actual operating statistic.

The following conditions were applied to each testing environment

• Continuous usuage of 108hours with no interruption to power supply
• Game of choice was Resistance Fall of Man & Motor Storm, Enchanted Arms
• Blu Ray movies – Several – around 10 different titles , Casino Royale, The Departed, Pirates of the Caribbean, Terminator 2, Superman Returns…
• Console was positioned on standalone timber unit with approximate 10cms of airflow under neath.
• Same 10 players were used over this period each playing or using the unit for a maximum of 1.5hours in any given session.
• Same controllers were used throughout the testing period

The following cycle was copied and used in each testing environment.
Start time Monday 9am –
2 hours blue ray dvd titles
4 hours continuous play on Resistance FOM
2 hours continuous play on Motor Storm
2 x blue ray dvd movies
1 x blue ray dvd movie
1 x blue ray dvd movie
2 hours continuous play on Motor Storm
6 hours of Motor Storm
6 hours of Resistance Fom
10 hours of Blue Ray Dvd 7 titles
1 hour of Motor Storm
3 hours of Resistance
5 hours of Enchanted Arms
2 hours blue ray dvd title
2 hours blue ray dvd title
5 hours Resistance FOM
5 hours Motor Storm
1 hour enchanted Arms
3 hours blue ray dvd titles
Repeated from the top until 108hours

Environment 1 Typical Family Room
Temperature 73 F
Console Ran continuous for the 108hours with only once incident happening at 12 hours in – a slight vibration coming from the tray area which lasted approximately 20 seconds. For the remaining time allocated no incidents were reported

Environment 2 Back of a Freezer Van – unit was placed inside the closed van with controllers and screen mounted outside, - no one was willing to sit in side the van for any extended period of time
Temperature Started at 50F and was progressively scaled down over the next 4 days to reach 0degrees.
Incidents We noticed a slight sluggishness in playback once the temperature reached 0 degrees , this was maintained for the last 24hours, with 12 hours to go we thought we were going to crash with a sudden , blackout to the screen, this was tracked down to condensation on the cord for the screen.
108hours in and still working fine

Environment 3 Heat Sauna – again console inside and controllers and screen outside.
Starting temperature was 100F and Gradually increased to 120F over the last 24hours.
Incidents Strangley enough we thought this would prove to be the ultimate area to kill the console, and to our surprise the only incident we noticed was a slight burning smell that came in around 64hours at 110F, the console was extremely hot when we finished the overall test but had come thru all environments with flying colours.
This console is now back in a normal environment and working fine.

We believe the only way to kill a ps3 console is

[supersix4]

well my ps2 big one died after 5 and a half years ... I dont think thats bad ... unless comparing to like super nintendo (which mine still works and NES lol) which has been out for 16 years lol...

[Iceman_II]

Originally Posted by chan1490

Open for discussion:

Ignoring PQ, how does a PS3 compare with a standalone for durability?

I have friends saying that the laser in the PS3 is inferior and if you play movies on it, it will die out faster than a standalone because standalone's are meant only to play movies.

I disagree with their statement.

Any other views?

Let me guess, these are also the same friends who told you that bubblicious bubble gum is made with spider eggs (I know, I am dating myself, but it was the only patently untrue urban myth I could think of)

[chan1490]

Alright thanks...so basically, it sounds like the group here believes that the PS3 is durable compared to Standalone players....perhaps I wasn't clear enough though.

I was referring to the laser themselves....so if I play 100 hours of movies on a PS3 compared to a standalone (same generation as the PS3), would the PS3 work just as fine as the standalone player?

[DJeffries]

Well my PS3 is not showing any sign of a problem after about 400 hours of movie playback. PS3 games are pressed on Blu-ray disk and uses the same laser . The drive doesn't know of care if the BD is game or movie content.

So I cant speak for dedicated players but the PS3 is solid as a rock.

BTW - The PS3 is a standalone Blu-ray Movie player. Unlike the 360 there are no add-ons needed for BD movie playback.

[chan1490]

Thanks for you input DJeffries...

What I mean by Standalone is that it's only purpose is to play Blu Rays; whereas the PS3 is multi-purpose and plays games and Blu Rays....perhaps that is the terminology I should have used.

A Primary purpose BD player vs the PS3 - which as a more durable laser, if either.

[Pilam69]

Originally Posted by chan1490

Open for discussion:

Ignoring PQ, how does a PS3 compare with a standalone for durability?

I have friends saying that the laser in the PS3 is inferior and if you play movies on it, it will die out faster than a standalone because standalone's are meant only to play movies.

I disagree with their statement.

Any other views?

Why would it die any faster? Man, where do people come up with this crap?

[whippersnapper]

Originally Posted by chan1490

Thanks for you input DJeffries...

What I mean by Standalone is that it's only purpose is to play Blu Rays; whereas the PS3 is multi-purpose and plays games and Blu Rays....perhaps that is the terminology I should have used.

A Primary purpose BD player vs the PS3 - which as a more durable laser, if either.

I think that the blu-ray diodes are the same for both the PS3 and "stand-alone" players (as well as HD-DVD players). When someone plays a game on the PS3, it reads a Blu-ray disc. So I would think they'd both have the same lifespan.

[Pilam69]

Originally Posted by whippersnapper

I think that the blu-ray diodes are the same for both the PS3 and "stand-alone" players (as well as HD-DVD players). When someone plays a game on the PS3, it reads a Blu-ray disc. So I would think they'd both have the same lifespan.

Ever heard about how a lightbulb lasts longer if you leave it on and never turn it off? Same concept would apply here no? Gaming the laser will turn on and off several times getting data and then waiting for the next call from the system cache. In a movie the laser would be constantly on. Also, we're talking about lasers here, not lightbulbs. It's my understanding that the laser light is much less likely to "burn out" over time.

Still, beat your friend with a shoe. I'm not kidding.

[justinbaily]

Well i only own a ps-3 but i've had it sience 1-2-07 and would only wonder if standalone's run comparibly hot to ps-3 which can get warm .

Though compairing my 360 -ps-3 the 360 died less than a month after it launched while my ps-3 runs fine. M$ repaired it free of corse.

Compairing ps-3 to a current standalone i know that more firmware updates are coming and it's already online with a HDD built in so i expect to have no problem
playing with the pip or internet bd's when they hit.

Until the entire feature set gets deployed in EVERY bd player i'd feel much more comfortable with my ps-3 knowing whatever arrives I can use/play it.

[Icemage]

If you only use the PS3 as a movie player, then it probably won't wear out the drive any faster than a standalone.

Gaming, on the other hand, tends to take up a fair few more hours than watching a movie. Even the shortest video games tend to take anywhere from 6-10 hours, with particularly long games taking as much as 80-100 hours to fully complete (including extras). Compare with a movie, which might offer 2-3 hours of main feature with an hour or so of extras at most.

In that sense, a PS3 in a household that uses the drive for movies AND games will wear out the drive faster (like me, for instance), but only because of higher usage. That's what extended warranties are for, though.

[chan1490]

Originally Posted by Pilam69

Still, beat your friend with a shoe. I'm not kidding.

It's actually 2 friends saying that a laser in a PS3 is not as durable as a dedicated player, so I will need to beat them with a pair of shoes!!!

Basically, they are going by personal experience....I believe his PS2 laser died out, and he thinks it was related to playing movies on it and that Sony puts a crappy laser in a gaming console. So therefore, the same will apply to his PS3. So then he bought a dedicated BD player to play his movies, and his PS3 will only be for gaming.