Difference b/w 1080p and 1080/24p HD on Blu-Ray Player/TV?

[The_Basterd]

I saw the fps basics thread.
Lol I am very sad to admit this, but I am still confused.
I am a total noob with this stuff.
I just noticed for the first time when watching a film it says 1080/24p instead of 1080p.
Just curious what that means vs. 1080p?
And does it get any better than this quality, just curious?
Does it depend on the Blu-Ray Disc, Player, TV? If it deal with the player or tv, how do you change it?
I saw someone say it can go to 30, or higher?
Ok, I am confused.
Thanks,
T_B
I apologize in advance if this is a stupid question.

[K_Williamson42]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/display-th...ps-basics.html


that thread right there should explain it all too you!

[The_Basterd]

Lol I am very sad to admit this, but I am still confused.
I added some other questions since reading the thread into my original post....
NVM: I get it.

[wafi]

Originally Posted by The_Basterd

Lol I am very sad to admit this, but I am still confused.
I added some other questions since reading the thread into my original post....
NVM: I get it.

Basically...

1080p/24fps > 1080p
1080p/24fps = The way God intended us to watch HD

[The_Basterd]

Originally Posted by wafi

Basically...

1080p/24fps > 1080p
1080p/24fps = The way God intended us to watch HD

Just wondering, why is less better? I thought I understood it... but now I am not 100% sure.
And what does it exactly mean in more detail?

[wafi]

Originally Posted by The_Basterd

Just wondering, why is less better? I thought I understood it... but now I am not 100% sure.
And what does it exactly mean in more detail?

Umm "less"? I thought details was what was causing the confusion! Lol! TVs that do not come with multiples of 24fps will do pull down. Pull down translates to some cases of judder/jitter effect. Translation the fps is "off" at say 60fps but not at 72fps! Well at least thats my interpretation.

[kpkelley]

Motion pictures are typically recorded at 24fps. Ideally they should be played back at 24fps. When played back at 60fps(tv standard refresh rate) it introduces judder from the 3:2 pulldown(one frame 3 times, one frame two times, one frame 3 times, one frame two times, and so on). Pulldown is a way to try to bring the 24fps up to 60fps, but then one frame plays for 1.5 times longer than the next. This results in judder which can be seen as changes in the speed of moving objects, and or camera pans.

24fps is considered better because it does not introduce additional processing into the image, allowing the viewer to experience the film as it was shot.

[jkcheng122]

Question remains though, even though Blu-ray players can now send the material in 24fps, how our TV handles that source ultimately will determine what you see for end result.

[wafi]

Originally Posted by jkcheng122

Question remains though, even though Blu-ray players can now send the material in 24fps, how our TV handles that source ultimately will determine what you see for end result.

Yeah TV specs have a say in it as well!

[jkcheng122]

Originally Posted by wafi

Yeah TV specs have a say in it as well!

Well yes, the ones that says specifically they have an engine for processing 24fps usually are better, but each mfg have a diff way of handling it. On my Pioneer it displays at 72Hz. I don't know how Samsung and Sony do it, Panasonic displays at 48Hz (which causes flicker) on their low end models and 96Hz on the high end. I've not seen how they look at those frequencies.

[Daaark]

If you are watching a film that is shot in 24 fps (MOST), it's best to watch it back in 24fps mode if possible. Otherwise, it has to be converted to 30fps and will introduce a slight jitter.

TVs naturally run at 30fps and video content runs at the same hz as well. But newer TVs can run in hz that are multiples of 24, and you can see film content without the 3:2 pulldown effect.