According to posters LAIR controls MUCH better after 1.92 update - Blu-ray Forum

Blus Brother · 09-04-2007, 09:55 PM

http://ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=96410

I cant vouch for this as I dont have the game - anyone here notice any differences?

Icemage · 09-04-2007, 10:13 PM

I just cleared a couple more missions in Lair. Am now on the final mission.

Can't say for sure that it's any easier; the controller lag seems a bit better, but that might be placebo effect. I think most of it is just me getting better at the controls, and resigning myself to occasionally flying past designated targets...

X-Ninja · 09-04-2007, 10:54 PM

Whats people's problem with LAIR's controls? They work perfectly in my opinion. ...I love them.

Screw reviewers.

WeApOn · 09-04-2007, 11:11 PM

Then they must have changed motion sensor across all games. They can't patch a game unless it was downloaded from the game itself.

statikcat · 09-04-2007, 11:12 PM

It didnt give me documentation on what this update fixed/changed like the previous one did. Just fixes or any new features?

Amon37 · 09-04-2007, 11:54 PM

I was planning on playing more tonight so I'll see how it is. Maybe I'll reply the spotlight mission.

Icemage · 09-05-2007, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amon37

I was planning on playing more tonight so I'll see how it is. Maybe I'll reply the spotlight mission.

Glutton for punishment, are we? I think that's the last one I'll go for medals on. It's by far the most painful and annoying mission in the entire game.

Amon37 · 09-05-2007, 01:37 PM

Well I didn't replay that mission, I replayed the spider wasp mission, since I had died on that mission last. I can't say I noticed any huge difference, maybe a slight one but that was probably just me getting better at the game naturally.

heathward · 09-05-2007, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X-Ninja

Whats people's problem with LAIR's controls? They work perfectly in my opinion. ...I love them.

Screw reviewers.

well you are one in just a handful if you can fly that dragon perfectly. read some of the posts in the larger LAIR thread. it is not just reviewers that think the controls are bad...it is your peers as well.

DezNutz · 09-05-2007, 04:29 PM

The controls are off.. I own the game and have played it.. really frustrating espically when going after gold awards and needing percision..

Copywriter · 09-05-2007, 04:35 PM

A good friend of mine is coming into town on Friday. He's brining LAIR (My new PS3 comes tomorrow woot!).

He likes the game. The reviews are all junk.

Maybe if Lair was a typical 1st-person shooter, it would have received all 9s.

I'm told that the controls just take some time and eventually you get used to them. Reminds me of any real racing sim.

DezNutz · 09-05-2007, 06:10 PM

I got the game... I want to love this game.. it is alright but the controls are a bit off... The graphics are alright but not mind blowing by any means... and there are way too many cut scenes.. the voice acting is bad as well..

I wish there was more ground combat as well.. and not all levels timed.. you could have some just be able to go all over... the flying since it is a majority of the game is decent but again the controls are a bit off... which really hurts since you are doing that the majority of the time.. needs a radar bad... the reasioning to not include it is weak.. I beleive it was something like there was no radar technology in that era.. so I guess there was floating arrow pointing technology?

takezo · 09-05-2007, 06:21 PM

According to Sony's website, the latest update only fixed backwards compatibility with select titles. It also includes all previous updates for those who just bought a 60GB PS3.

Warhawk controls have not been altered. It's the cobination of Placebo and users either getting better at itor just living with it.

As a Wii user, I can see core gamer fustration with motion controls, but when you break the relatively short learning curve (It's not like you have an easy time learning controls for a standard controller expecially if their complex, such as fighting games), it becomes a part of your body, alowing for more interactive and engaging expereince. Though Warhawk looks kinda lame to me.

I guess you can't expect good motion controls from companies other than Nintendo.

Escalus · 09-05-2007, 06:30 PM

Do ya think Lair will be online, or will it be just a game???

DezNutz · 09-05-2007, 07:23 PM

Where are these uninformed new users coming from?

takezo - this thread is on LAIR not warhawk. I have both games, as well as a Wii, and I can tell you it has nothing to do with the technology, but the game itself. Warhawk uses great precise six axis motion technology, but for whatever reason LAIR is just a bit off.

Wii leading the technology in any department is humourous to say the least. They have some good motion controls, but there are a couple games that are off and mini games as well. I know, I got them and use them. The whole balancing your stick on your hand in Wario does not work and takes time to let the Wii see the difference for instance...

Escalus - LAIR is already out, there is no online multiplayer, you could easily find this out for yourself with any review site or looking at the box, but there is an online point and award sharing/ranking capability. This allows you to see where your scores compare to everyone in the world, or even just those on your friend list. Lame, I know, but it is the generic online capability that even most "online" 360 games sport...

stockstar1138 · 09-05-2007, 07:44 PM

i was getting this game but the reviews are just awful. when ps3fanboy.com gives it a 5.5/10 you know its bad.

Amon37 · 09-05-2007, 07:55 PM

The youtube movies clearly prove that after 1.92 it is more responsive. Did I notice it in my gameplay, maybe a little, but it clearly made an improvement. The never tell you everything the firmware fixed.It's also known that 1.92 sped up XMB access and the browser.

Escalus · 09-05-2007, 09:46 PM

Sorry just at work and should have said more... I have rented this game first before I buy, I just find that you can get something that looks fantastic and when it comes out and u play it, it sucks. But I have played Lair and I actually have been having a lot of fun with it. I guess what I was more looking for will it be able to be an online game in the future?

I think it would be great to play online, fighting other folks. I like some games to just play, eventually you beat the game tho. Coming from computer based online games Like Everquest, Quake 2, ect. I really enjoyed leveling up getting new shinny's playing against someone that has there own tactics, was just wondering if there is a future of this game being an online game or will it ever be an online game that is all.

09-04-2007, 09:55 PM	#1
Blus Brother Senior Member Member since:Jun 2007	According to posters LAIR controls MUCH better after 1.92 update http://ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=96410 I cant vouch for this as I dont have the game - anyone here notice any differences?

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09-04-2007, 10:13 PM	#2
Icemage Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007	I just cleared a couple more missions in Lair. Am now on the final mission. Can't say for sure that it's any easier; the controller lag seems a bit better, but that might be placebo effect. I think most of it is just me getting better at the controls, and resigning myself to occasionally flying past designated targets...

09-04-2007, 10:54 PM	#3
X-Ninja Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:North Bay, Ontario Posts: Over 1100.......... PSNetwork- Axecution Blu-ray collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:6	Whats people's problem with LAIR's controls? They work perfectly in my opinion. ...I love them. Screw reviewers.

09-04-2007, 11:11 PM	#4
WeApOn Special Member Member since:Aug 2006 Location:Rhode Island, USA	Then they must have changed motion sensor across all games. They can't patch a game unless it was downloaded from the game itself.

09-04-2007, 11:12 PM	#5
statikcat Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Washington, DC Blu-ray collection:67	It didnt give me documentation on what this update fixed/changed like the previous one did. Just fixes or any new features?

09-04-2007, 11:54 PM	#6
Amon37 Power Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:USA,Arizona PSNetwork: Amon37	I was planning on playing more tonight so I'll see how it is. Maybe I'll reply the spotlight mission.

09-05-2007, 01:37 PM	#8
Amon37 Power Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:USA,Arizona PSNetwork: Amon37	Well I didn't replay that mission, I replayed the spider wasp mission, since I had died on that mission last. I can't say I noticed any huge difference, maybe a slight one but that was probably just me getting better at the game naturally.

09-05-2007, 04:29 PM	#10
DezNutz Expert Member Member since:Mar 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:24	The controls are off.. I own the game and have played it.. really frustrating espically when going after gold awards and needing percision..

09-05-2007, 04:35 PM	#11
Copywriter Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Vegas Baby, Vegas	A good friend of mine is coming into town on Friday. He's brining LAIR (My new PS3 comes tomorrow woot!). He likes the game. The reviews are all junk. Maybe if Lair was a typical 1st-person shooter, it would have received all 9s. I'm told that the controls just take some time and eventually you get used to them. Reminds me of any real racing sim.

09-05-2007, 06:10 PM	#12
DezNutz Expert Member Member since:Mar 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:24	I got the game... I want to love this game.. it is alright but the controls are a bit off... The graphics are alright but not mind blowing by any means... and there are way too many cut scenes.. the voice acting is bad as well.. I wish there was more ground combat as well.. and not all levels timed.. you could have some just be able to go all over... the flying since it is a majority of the game is decent but again the controls are a bit off... which really hurts since you are doing that the majority of the time.. needs a radar bad... the reasioning to not include it is weak.. I beleive it was something like there was no radar technology in that era.. so I guess there was floating arrow pointing technology?

09-05-2007, 06:21 PM	#13
takezo Active Member Member since:Aug 2006	According to Sony's website, the latest update only fixed backwards compatibility with select titles. It also includes all previous updates for those who just bought a 60GB PS3. Warhawk controls have not been altered. It's the cobination of Placebo and users either getting better at itor just living with it. As a Wii user, I can see core gamer fustration with motion controls, but when you break the relatively short learning curve (It's not like you have an easy time learning controls for a standard controller expecially if their complex, such as fighting games), it becomes a part of your body, alowing for more interactive and engaging expereince. Though Warhawk looks kinda lame to me. I guess you can't expect good motion controls from companies other than Nintendo.

09-05-2007, 06:30 PM	#14
Escalus Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:33	Do ya think Lair will be online, or will it be just a game???

09-05-2007, 07:23 PM	#15
DezNutz Expert Member Member since:Mar 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:24	Where are these uninformed new users coming from? takezo - this thread is on LAIR not warhawk. I have both games, as well as a Wii, and I can tell you it has nothing to do with the technology, but the game itself. Warhawk uses great precise six axis motion technology, but for whatever reason LAIR is just a bit off. Wii leading the technology in any department is humourous to say the least. They have some good motion controls, but there are a couple games that are off and mini games as well. I know, I got them and use them. The whole balancing your stick on your hand in Wario does not work and takes time to let the Wii see the difference for instance... Escalus - LAIR is already out, there is no online multiplayer, you could easily find this out for yourself with any review site or looking at the box, but there is an online point and award sharing/ranking capability. This allows you to see where your scores compare to everyone in the world, or even just those on your friend list. Lame, I know, but it is the generic online capability that even most "online" 360 games sport...

09-05-2007, 07:44 PM	#16
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	i was getting this game but the reviews are just awful. when ps3fanboy.com gives it a 5.5/10 you know its bad.

09-05-2007, 07:55 PM	#17
Amon37 Power Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:USA,Arizona PSNetwork: Amon37	The youtube movies clearly prove that after 1.92 it is more responsive. Did I notice it in my gameplay, maybe a little, but it clearly made an improvement. The never tell you everything the firmware fixed.It's also known that 1.92 sped up XMB access and the browser.

09-05-2007, 09:46 PM	#18
Escalus Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:33	Sorry just at work and should have said more... I have rented this game first before I buy, I just find that you can get something that looks fantastic and when it comes out and u play it, it sucks. But I have played Lair and I actually have been having a lot of fun with it. I guess what I was more looking for will it be able to be an online game in the future? I think it would be great to play online, fighting other folks. I like some games to just play, eventually you beat the game tho. Coming from computer based online games Like Everquest, Quake 2, ect. I really enjoyed leveling up getting new shinny's playing against someone that has there own tactics, was just wondering if there is a future of this game being an online game or will it ever be an online game that is all.

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