Samsung Plasma or LCD?

[DrinkMore]

Looking at picking up an additional TV in the next month or so (plasma or lcd). As much as I tout Plasma and the bright colors - something has me checking out LCD. However, I am not fond of dead pixels coming to my screen.

Anyways, after owning our 42" Samsung since January, I really like the picture and the quality. I am planning to stick with them unless someone can give me a better reason not to. My new set will be 50-60" depending on price and style.

Any other suggestions? Only LCD and Plasma

[Maximus]

Anything in the >50" range is plasma domain.

For plasma TVs look no further than Pioneer PRO-FHD1. There is no better TV.

[supersix4]

almost all tvs are onpar with plasmas now since lcds, can all do the same if not more contrast then there plasma counterparts in response to the PRO-FHD1 just read the review on cnet its a great set but nothing in the tv sets it apart or above anything else... I'd stick with LCD if your going to do gaming if not could try plasma

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Anything in the >50" range is plasma domain.

For plasma TVs look no further than Pioneer PRO-FHD1. There is no better TV.

agreed if you go plasma go pioneer. on the other hand, i have a samsung lcd and it does an excellent job with black levels and bright colors it also has a glossy screen like many plasmas do. in my opinion it doesn't look to much different than a plasma at all, the guy at best buy said, "this thing is a hybrid between a plasma and an lcd". i really love it. it also depends and use of the tv. if you plan on doing any gaming go lcd, non-gaming plasma, above 46 inches go plasma, below 46 inches lcd. its up to you, both are great.

[DrinkMore]

Lol, seems to be split.

I don't plan to game - only gaming with the PS3 and not much I don't think. At least not now. I think I might go LCD just because it uses less power. I have to look at my options though.

[daisuke149]

Originally Posted by DrinkMore

Lol, seems to be split.

I don't plan to game - only gaming with the PS3 and not much I don't think. At least not now. I think I might go LCD just because it uses less power. I have to look at my options though.

if your worried about the power consumption take alook at the panasonic plasma's. They run alot less power than the other plasma's out there with alot less heat output.

Also the panasonics picture quality over the samsungs plasma woul dbe better. Better tones, skin, colors etc.

If you take alook around in a B&M store you can find the panasonic 50 720 for as low as 1450 and the 1080 for as low as 2150. U wont find any lcd near that price unless u sacrificign quality or size.

If you want 50 - 60 i'd suggest the pany plasma's. Good quality. great reliability. low power/heat and awesome price. the 58" you can find for around 3450.

[gvortex7]

Originally Posted by DrinkMore

Lol, seems to be split.

I don't plan to game - only gaming with the PS3 and not much I don't think. At least not now. I think I might go LCD just because it uses less power. I have to look at my options though.

Is price a huge consideration for you?

[LuBi]

One of the new Pioneer KURO plasmas is exactly what you're looking for. The price is right and the picture quality cannot be beat. While LCD has made some major moves over the last year it still cannot match a Plasma. Give AVS a visit and watch some reviews at Cnet. Cnet hasn't tested all of the new Pionners so be sure to check AVS.

http://reviews.cnet.com/Televisions/...html?tag=glnav
http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-6482_7-...html?tag=prmo1
http://www.avsforum.com/

This is a big purchase in a great time, but there's lots of information out there.. Make sure you get exactly the specs you need.. For example if a unit doesn't have enough HDMI ports look into a monoprice switch OR a HDMI av receiver.. etc etc.. Good luck in whatever you choose.

[T-Town Oil]

<panasonic plasma...all im ever gonna buy again

[richard lichtenfelt]

I think the black level concern either only applies to older lcds or inexpensive lcds. I have a Sony Bravia lcd and it displays solid black w/o a hitch.
Plasmas run the risk of screen burn-in especially due to the little station ids that are displayed at the bottom right of the screen. Some will say that it has been corrected but I have read recent reviews by people who have even had this problem with new Pioneer Pro Plasmas.
I am not like an hd-dvder trying to get others to follow my mistake. If you buy a Sony or Samsung lcd I am certain that you will be thoroughly satisfied, and it will cost less both initially and in the long run.

[DrinkMore]

Originally Posted by gvortex7

Is price a huge consideration for you?

Yes. Don't want to go over 2.5k per panel. We will be getting two panels.

I have narrowed it down. Both will be Plasmas. As much as LCD has improved, I am not totally impressed yet. That and dead pixels on a 2.5k purchase just would not bode well with me.

We have a Samsung and a Panasonic plasma in the house. I must say, both have excellent pictures. Very hard to tell the difference.

The panel that I am considering right now is this

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-FPT508...blurayforum-20

I looked into the Pioneers and albeit they are nice, I am not keen on spending that much extra. Samsung and Panasonic have served us well.

As for a Panasonic model - Maybe this one..

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TH-5...blurayforum-20

Both are pretty much right in line with our budget. Both have excellent reviews and both I can trust. They each look good as well and support full 1080p. As for HDMI 1.3 - I don't know.

If you all have suggestions in this price range, postem. But these are the best contenders right now. Anything above 50" is just too big right now and costly.

This will put our TV total in the house to 4 Plasmas and 2 LCD's. Sweet!

[DrinkMore]

Originally Posted by LuBi

One of the new Pioneer KURO plasmas is exactly what you're looking for. The price is right and the picture quality cannot be beat. While LCD has made some major moves over the last year it still cannot match a Plasma. Give AVS a visit and watch some reviews at Cnet. Cnet hasn't tested all of the new Pionners so be sure to check AVS.

http://reviews.cnet.com/Televisions/...html?tag=glnav
http://reviews.cnet.com/4321-6482_7-...html?tag=prmo1
http://www.avsforum.com/

This is a big purchase in a great time, but there's lots of information out there.. Make sure you get exactly the specs you need.. For example if a unit doesn't have enough HDMI ports look into a monoprice switch OR a HDMI av receiver.. etc etc.. Good luck in whatever you choose.

Thanks for the nfo, but that guy is expensive.

[jcs913]

If you can afford it, the new 1080P Pioneer Kuro, non-Elite model, is the best monitor you will find. $5000 retail, but can be had for about $4200 if you look around. Panasonic is coming out with a new 1080P plasma that now has 10000-1 contrast for $2700 list. Can be had for about $2200 or so if you look. Those come out in October sometime. This is probably the best value I have ever seen for a monitor. I have a PS3 and game on it occasionally and have no problems with PQ or motion. My buddy has an XBR2 LCD, which is considered one of the best but not for movies. LCD's just do not have the black levels plasmas have and it shows. I have a 2 year old 42" Panny plasma. I am interested in upgrading to a 50" and these 2 models are definetly 2 I will look at. The Pioneer, if my bonus is nice, the Panny if it is not.

[LuBi]

Originally Posted by richard lichtenfelt

I think the black level concern either only applies to older lcds or inexpensive lcds.

Nope, the tech itself at this point still just cannot achieve the black levels of a Plasma..

Originally Posted by richard lichtenfelt

I have a Sony Bravia lcd and it displays solid black w/o a hitch.

While I'm sure it looks great, it wouldn't hold a candle to some of the new KUROs or other brand Plasmas.

Originally Posted by richard lichtenfelt

Plasmas run the risk of screen burn-in especially due to the little station ids that are displayed at the bottom right of the screen. Some will say that it has been corrected but I have read recent reviews by people who have even had this problem with new Pioneer Pro Plasmas.

This effect is no reffered to as image retention as it's mostly a temporary issue now if it all.. If a plasma display is properly broken in you shouldn't ever run into problems.

Originally Posted by richard lichtenfelt

If you buy a Sony or Samsung lcd I am certain that you will be thoroughly satisfied, and it will cost less both initially and in the long run.

I agree, while this is a Blu-ray forum and many of us try to achieve perfection, the average consumer would be happy with many of the newer LCD displays.. IMO anything over 46" should be a Plasma. Also with the LCD watch out for dead pixels as they can occur anytime in the displays lifetime.

[DrinkMore]

Originally Posted by richard lichtenfelt

I think the black level concern either only applies to older lcds or inexpensive lcds. I have a Sony Bravia lcd and it displays solid black w/o a hitch.
Plasmas run the risk of screen burn-in especially due to the little station ids that are displayed at the bottom right of the screen. Some will say that it has been corrected but I have read recent reviews by people who have even had this problem with new Pioneer Pro Plasmas.
I am not like an hd-dvder trying to get others to follow my mistake. If you buy a Sony or Samsung lcd I am certain that you will be thoroughly satisfied, and it will cost less both initially and in the long run.

Only thing with LCD's is the dead pixel thing. Along with the banding/black levels. I know they have made improvements, but I can still see it. I see it on my brothers tv and I don't like how the screen goes grey, lightens up when you view from various angles.

I will check out some LCD's and if I see something I like I will look into it. As of right now, they don't seem as vibrant as the plasmas we have in the house. They seem "washed out".

[DrinkMore]

Looked at the Pioneer PDP-5010FD - The Elite version, I am not even going to go there. Too much crap I will never use. Basically the same panel with a few extras and a much higher price.

The PDP-5010FD is nice from what I can tell. Hopefully the price will come down. Still too price for what it is. I think Panasonic is next in line as long as the frame is not crappy. I like the smooth, sleek black frame. Nothing mounted on it. No extra names, stickers or the like. Clean and simple.

[gvortex7]

You should look into the new generation Slim Line Samsung DLP's.

[AV_Integrated]

IMO - Pioneer is what you get when you want the best. Forget everything else, the Pioneer plasma will deliver the best possible image that you can get in a flat panel display. Better than LCD, better than the other plasmas.

But, it ain't gonna be cheap!

If you are on more of a budget, then you will definitely take a hit in quality, but Panasonic will consistently deliver a quality level that gets rave reviews.

Samsung can be hit or miss with their products. They have had some excellent product in the past, but also some real losers. So, you have to do your homework. Unlike, say, a Sony LCD which will pretty darn consistently look somewhere between really good and excellent.

I would consider a Sony LCD or a Panasonic plasma as my first options BEHIND the Pioneer plasma.

My goal this year is to get the Pioneer 60" 1080p display. I've already got the money for it, but have to convince myself that the 50"er that we have has to go.

[richard lichtenfelt]

One other thing to consider that was one of the main reasons I chose LCD is that plasma tvs reflect like mirrors. Not good for watching during the day or in a room with any lights on.
In regards to the black level I just don't get this argument as my Sony displays black that is as black as black gets. Every bit as black as the exterior of my PS3. I think these people must be referring to Vizios or Westinghouse lcds.