China adopts CH-DVD which is HD-DVD compatible - Blu-ray Forum

mainman · 09-09-2007, 03:36 PM

http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/NewsCom-66305.aspx

They didnt exactly adopted HD-DVD, but CH-DVD is same technology as HD-DVD.

1 week back or so, there were 2 Chinese companies that adopted Blu-ray. One person said, that is basicly meant that China chose Blu-ray.

JTK · 09-09-2007, 03:41 PM

Very interesting...

eddieaus · 09-09-2007, 03:42 PM

so what? the AVS processing chip for CH-DVD doesn't even exist, and needs at least 1 year for mass production.

and btw, BD will still be allowed to be sold in China, CH-DVD is not the only format approved by the Chinese government.

JTK · 09-09-2007, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddieaus

so what? the AVS processing chip for CH-DVD doesn't even exist, and needs at least 1 year for mass production.

and btw, BD will still be allowed to be sold in China, CH-DVD is not the only format approved by the Chinese government.

Good points, but I see something like this and it just kind of makes me scratch my head a li'l bit and wonder what the point is.

mainman · 09-09-2007, 03:49 PM

About 1 or 2 weeks ago, there were 1 or 2 Chinese companies, that adopted Blu-ray. Which companies were this.

I want to read that story again.

eddieaus · 09-09-2007, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainman

About 1 or 2 weeks ago, there were 1 or 2 Chinese companies, that adopted Blu-ray. Which companies were this.

I want to read that story again.

China Film Group Co. and China Hualu Co.

Jamh · 09-09-2007, 03:51 PM

CH-DVD is not compatible with HD-DVD, it is based on HD-DVD. The assumption is that they can use the same lines with a few adjustments to make cheap HD-DVD players for sale overseas, I'll believe it when I see it.

MacHaggis · 09-09-2007, 03:59 PM

Is this so-called CH-DVD something new?

I've known about this for a few months now, including the fact that is close to the HD DVD format, but not the same.

The bottom line is, the market needs inexpensive BD players. You need to get the numbers on your side.

Discriminating tastes with big pockets will always buy the higher end equipment, and there will be plenty of that, especially on the Blu-ray side.

The bottom line is... we need inexpensive Chinese Blu-ray players.

I would never buy them, but that's not the point.

Bogdan

eddieaus · 09-09-2007, 04:00 PM

check this out, 4 manufactures showed their CH-DVD players at the conference last week, and they all look the same........as the Toshiba A30, what a joke, lol.

some of them forgot to put the sticker on the front to cover "HD DVD" logo, lol

turns out they are all made by Toshiba in Japan, even the demo disc shown during the event is from Toshiba, using HD DVD and VC-1 codec!

JTK · 09-09-2007, 04:10 PM

Ok, so basically this is just HD-DVD in China?

eddieaus · 09-09-2007, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTK

Ok, so basically this is just HD-DVD in China?

basiclly they cannot produce CH-DVD at the moment without AVS processing chip, so they have to use HD DVD to fake it. they are obviously rushing it out because BD group announced their China plan before them.

mainman · 09-09-2007, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTK

Ok, so basically this is just HD-DVD in China?

Nah man. http://play.tm/wire/click/1501936

joeorc · 09-09-2007, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainman

http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/NewsCom-66305.aspx

They didnt exactly adopted HD-DVD, but CH-DVD is same technology as HD-DVD.

1 week back or so, there were 2 Chinese companies that adopted Blu-ray. One person said, that is basicly meant that China chose Blu-ray.

A consortium of Chinese university engineers and globally recognized manufacturers, in cooperation with the China High Definition DVD Industry Association (CHDA) and backed by the Chinese government, have reached an agreement on a standard specification for a blue-laser, hi-def disc, (note: not Blu-ray,) which is based on and fundamentally compatible with HD DVD with only minor adjustments, which will utilize the Advanced Audio Video Encoding Standard in Information Technology (AVS) codec developed by the Chinese government.

note: not blu-ray is 100% wrong..why because if that was true..why did the Chinese GOVT. also BACK the blu-ray format as a STANDARD...? the MEDIA is getting pretty damn slimely..this is scrapeing the bottom of the sludge pit.

and on a standard specfication of blue laser...come on..the FUD is just getting too thick....

i mean look at the responses to the news...when none of them even looked to see if BLU-RAY was not gone and done the same thing..the 97% all of the people who commented on this story just stated THIS is a major blow to BLU-RAY when if they even bothered to look would have found out BLU-RAY had already done the same thing.

JTK · 09-09-2007, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddieaus

basiclly they cannot produce CH-DVD at the moment without AVS processing chip, so they have to use HD DVD to fake it. they are obviously rushing it out because BD group announced their China plan before them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainman

Nah man. http://play.tm/wire/click/1501936

Wow, that's wild. Ok.

jorg · 09-09-2007, 07:18 PM

i thought i read some were that this spec dosent include vc-1 pritty much meaning hd dvd f****d

supersix4 · 09-09-2007, 07:27 PM

only people who really dont care about quality would buy cheap players like that

dialog_gvf · 09-09-2007, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddieaus

check this out, 4 manufactures showed their CH-DVD players at the conference last week, and they all look the same........as the Toshiba A30, what a joke, lol.

LOL!

Notice the blue display and the positioning it and the drive tray. They are all identical, with a change of front plate (sometimes).

Gary

supersix4 · 09-09-2007, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

LOL!

Notice the blue display and the positioning it and the drive tray. They are all identical, with a change of front plate (sometimes).

Gary

lol who do they think they are fooling lmao

JadedRaverLA · 09-09-2007, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorg

i thought i read some were that this spec dosent include vc-1 pritty much meaning hd dvd f****d

Correct. CH-DVD is NOT compatible with HD DVD. The players will not be able to play HD DVD discs, even though they both use AOD discs. CH DVD players aren't compatible with the VC-1 codec (at least the early players -- they are discussing adding support as an optional format), or the more advanced audio codecs. They also are using a variation of AVC codec (known as AVS) that isn't compatible with HD DVD players. Oh, yeah... and the main reason for using this instead of HD DVD in the pirate capital of the world... advanced copy protection not offered by HD DVD.

So... you can't play HD DVD's on a CH DVD player... and you can't play CH DVD's on an HD DVD player. Yet some feel that this has some bearing on the format war? I give up.

Oh, yeah. And for the population of China with money to spend on quality, they'll be able to buy 'real' Blu-ray players and discs.

CouchPotato · 09-09-2007, 09:16 PM

Would this result in cheaper parts for Blu Ray players or drives as well? I would think volume increases for blue lasers would mean savings for BD as well.

09-09-2007, 03:36 PM	#1
mainman Senior Member Member since:Jan 2006	China adopts CH-DVD which is HD-DVD compatible http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/NewsCom-66305.aspx They didnt exactly adopted HD-DVD, but CH-DVD is same technology as HD-DVD. 1 week back or so, there were 2 Chinese companies that adopted Blu-ray. One person said, that is basicly meant that China chose Blu-ray.

09-09-2007, 04:00 PM	#9
eddieaus Junior Member Member since:Aug 2007	check this out, 4 manufactures showed their CH-DVD players at the conference last week, and they all look the same........as the Toshiba A30, what a joke, lol. some of them forgot to put the sticker on the front to cover "HD DVD" logo, lol turns out they are all made by Toshiba in Japan, even the demo disc shown during the event is from Toshiba, using HD DVD and VC-1 codec! Last edited by eddieaus; 09-09-2007 at 04:10 PM.

Similar Threads
thread	Forum	Thread Starter	Replies	Last Post
Over America on BD.. also DVD compatible?	Blu-ray Movies - North America	Chevypower	2	03-14-2008 05:21 PM
MS officiall drops HD-DVD, Adopts Cassettes	General Chat	ThatArtGuy	0	02-25-2008 09:04 PM
China CH-DVD - Is this something to be concerned about?	General Chat	sphdle1	26	02-02-2008 06:35 PM
Blu-Ray DVD Products to Be Available in China	Blu-ray Technology and Future Technology	kjack	3	03-05-2007 07:00 PM
HD-DVD adopts Hybrid discs!	Blu-ray Technology and Future Technology	Logansneo	10	01-28-2005 06:31 PM

09-09-2007, 03:41 PM	#2
JTK Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2006 Location:www.blurayoasis.com	Very interesting...

09-09-2007, 03:42 PM	#3
eddieaus Junior Member Member since:Aug 2007	so what? the AVS processing chip for CH-DVD doesn't even exist, and needs at least 1 year for mass production. and btw, BD will still be allowed to be sold in China, CH-DVD is not the only format approved by the Chinese government.

09-09-2007, 03:49 PM	#5
mainman Senior Member Member since:Jan 2006	About 1 or 2 weeks ago, there were 1 or 2 Chinese companies, that adopted Blu-ray. Which companies were this. I want to read that story again.

09-09-2007, 03:51 PM	#7
Jamh Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	CH-DVD is not compatible with HD-DVD, it is based on HD-DVD. The assumption is that they can use the same lines with a few adjustments to make cheap HD-DVD players for sale overseas, I'll believe it when I see it.

09-09-2007, 03:59 PM	#8
MacHaggis Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Burbank, CA Blu-ray collection:102	Is this so-called CH-DVD something new? I've known about this for a few months now, including the fact that is close to the HD DVD format, but not the same. The bottom line is, the market needs inexpensive BD players. You need to get the numbers on your side. Discriminating tastes with big pockets will always buy the higher end equipment, and there will be plenty of that, especially on the Blu-ray side. The bottom line is... we need inexpensive Chinese Blu-ray players. I would never buy them, but that's not the point. Bogdan

09-09-2007, 04:10 PM	#10
JTK Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2006 Location:www.blurayoasis.com	Ok, so basically this is just HD-DVD in China?

09-09-2007, 07:18 PM	#15
jorg Power Member Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Home Theater Gallery:2	i thought i read some were that this spec dosent include vc-1 pritty much meaning hd dvd f****d

09-09-2007, 07:27 PM	#16
supersix4 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray collection:572 Blu-ray reviews: 53 Trading Score:3	only people who really dont care about quality would buy cheap players like that

09-09-2007, 09:16 PM	#20
CouchPotato Member Member since:Aug 2007	Would this result in cheaper parts for Blu Ray players or drives as well? I would think volume increases for blue lasers would mean savings for BD as well.

Best Blu-ray Movie Deals