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Old 09-12-2007, 02:16 PM   #1
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Default Disney's Nightmare Before Christmas (Burton) could end this war (:

Yes, I think it could.

I dont think Disney / sony recognize how many people would blindly choose blu as the format for them if they saw Nightmare out.

btw - would be my favourite must buy movie of all time on blu.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:19 PM   #2
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I think you might be reaching.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:19 PM   #3
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You're really reaching. It's a popular title sure, but not even Star Wars would single-handedly end it.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:21 PM   #4
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You're really reaching. It's a popular title sure, but not even Star Wars would single-handedly end it.
StarWars is the only title that would stand a chance of single-handedly ending the war...

As for Nightmare before Christmas... not a chance in hell. I don't even like the movie.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:25 PM   #5
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It would be a really big seller for sure. I think Star Wars and LotR are the only titles that if they were to be exclusive would make a big impact.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:27 PM   #6
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Lord of the Rings might come in a close second to Star Wars!
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:27 PM   #7
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I admit I would LOVE to see that, but I don't think that many people would blindly buy Blu-ray just for it. Especially now that every Halloween at my local theaters, they show it in 3D (yes, really, it's cool!).
I would buy it in a heartbeat when it comes out, but until then, I will have to settle for the lesser Corpse Bride.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:28 PM   #8
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Nope i don't believe Nightmare before christmas OR LOTR could end this war. THE only one as mentioned is Star Wars.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:34 PM   #9
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You're really reaching. It's a popular title sure, but not even Star Wars would single-handedly end it.
I have to disagree. If Lucas announced the entire SW series on Blu-ray only, it would all be over except for mopping up the blood.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:40 PM   #10
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Disney is a powerful force and we are blessed to have them. No single movie will end this war. If that were true, a lot of us would have jumped ship a long time ago for Transformers.

As the war gets uglier the really big titles will start creeping out. Our strength is in our numbers. Our movie selection is wider and in general, better.

However I do agree that Star Wars, among others, could create a mighty bulwark. What are they waiting for? Damn the torpedoes. Full speed ahead!
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:43 PM   #11
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The only way of ending this is for the HD-DVD camp to come to their senses.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:45 PM   #12
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The only way of ending this is for the HD-DVD camp to come to their senses.

After talking to HD-DVD members that are rational (meaning they actually have good reasons for liking HD-DVD), the main reason HD-DVD has any legs to stand on is the titles they have that Blu does not. Once Warner releases the HD-DVD exclusive titles on Blu, it will be a huge blow to HD-DVD. (Matrix anyone?)
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:45 PM   #13
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No it really wouldn't.

All you'd see is the spike in sales for one week, and you'd get some people buying players. What ENDS the war are consistant desireable exclusive releases over a long period. If you had (pulling random franchises) Star Wars in November, LOTR in December, Indiana Jones in March(and so on) and between those were at least one really desireable title a week, that might do it over a 6-12 month period. Those are nukes. You still have to deal with the $400 price of entry(minimum) and the $20-30 street price of discs, both of which are huge obstacles

That's simply not going to happen though. This is going to be over before it hits the mainstream pricing that would work for
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:51 PM   #14
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I can't say I agree. I don't think any single title or title 'combo' would end the war. The sad fact seems to be that most consumers don't want to buy a new DVD player, especially if they don't own a HD display. I think what needs to happen here, is for more education flowing through to the consumer about what things are and aren't.

I feel bad for all the HD-DVD player owners who spent so much money only to see the format losing ground. However, consumers need one format. Too many choices often confuse consumers no matter what the products are. For this war to trickle down to one format, the bottom line would be lack of sales in hardware and software in one format and at present, thw two camps are only buying in their format and new adopters are not coming on board fast enough in my opinion and THAT, comes down to education to the consumer. There's been SO much bad information from sales people on the floor that most consumers can't be bothered. Anyway, what I'm getting at is that consumers need the right information all the time. Once they have the correct facts, the end of the war will follow.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:53 PM   #15
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No it really wouldn't.

All you'd see is the spike in sales for one week, and you'd get some people buying players. What ENDS the war are consistant desireable exclusive releases over a long period. If you had (pulling random franchises) Star Wars in November, LOTR in December, Indiana Jones in March(and so on) and between those were at least one really desireable title a week, that might do it over a 6-12 month period. Those are nukes. You still have to deal with the $400 price of entry(minimum) and the $20-30 street price of discs, both of which are huge obstacles

That's simply not going to happen though. This is going to be over before it hits the mainstream pricing that would work for
Think about the FUD that the Paramount deal caused in the Blu-ray camp though. It caused a lot of people to look over longingly at HD-DVD even though Paramount has only 1 real title that people REALLY want (Transformers). I think the announcement of StarWars BD exclusive would cause the same kind of reaction, but on a much larger scale. The one day spike would not cause the downfall of HD-DVD, but the months leading up to the release with the knowledge that it would be BD exclusive... might be a very large blow. Think about all the new people entering the HD market being told that StarWars is Blu only... think about all the HD-DVD non-zealots that would buy BD players... I'm not saying that it would definitely end the war, but if any title could do it, it's StarWars.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:54 PM   #16
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I love Tim Burton movies but not so much that one. I even like Corpse Bride better then NbC for some reason.

I think Edward Sissorhands has a bigger following and it's not going to win the war, though I will buy it ASAP.

-Brian
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:59 PM   #17
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Quote "Think about the FUD that the Paramount deal caused in the Blu-ray camp though."

Looking at this one I think most people just don't know how to gauge home relevant or important any bit of news really is. Fans of the other format are glad to spread the notion that the news meant game over for Blu Ray just like the anti-HD-DVD BlockBuster announcement was treated the same way. (However, the BlockBuster announcement was a much bigger deal.)
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:05 PM   #18
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I don't think any one movie or franchise would do it.

Although I'm sure Jar Jar Binks in high def would pull a lot of people in.
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:07 PM   #19
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I don't think any one movie or franchise would do it.

Although I'm sure Jar Jar Binks in high def would pull a lot of people in.
Bah! I hate Jar Jar.... he made meesa so angry
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:49 PM   #20
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...The sad fact seems to be that most consumers don't want to buy a new DVD player, especially if they don't own a HD display. ....
Someone here did convince his friend to buy a blu-ray player though he did not have HDTV. The reasoning was he planned on getting it eventually, and thus decided to spend the money once and get the "future proof" choice.

I have only a few blu-ray duplicates of SD DVD movies. Normally, aside from the brilliant resolution and stella color, playing blu-ray at 480i doesn't seem much different than a DVD.

At least I thought that before I compared the restored version of "A Christmas Story". The DVD version is sheer and utter crap, even for DVD. Looks like it never came from the original, but rather a taped TV version.

The concept isn't much different than people who put X-box 360s and PS3's on SD TV's. You invest in the hardware ONCE now, and reap the benefit of it later. I would still tell people to go with blu-ray if they own SDTV because the picture quality will be that much better. In fact, that is what I am going to tell them.

I'm want to do a dual hook-up of SD-TV and HDTV to my player and start comparing the picture quality I get when comparing DVD vs blu-ray. Need some time first.

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