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Old 08-06-2011, 12:10 AM   #1
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Angry Blu-ray discs with UltraViolet technology!

This may or may not piss you guys off, but I sure don't like it. It sounds a little intrusive to me. The following link explains UltraViolet technology in more depth.
http://www.extremetech.com/computing...ideo-is-coming

In a nutshell UltraViolet stores your digital copies online in a cloud-like storage. In order to view your movie (even your physical disc) you will HAVE to be connected to the internet. The link goes into so much more detail. I felt it was important enough to start a separate thread for it.

Green Lantern and Horrible Bosses will feature this technology. I won't buy these discs if it is as intrusive as it sounds. This feature is going to turn a lot of people off.


*Thanks to madlost1 for posting an article about this. I was unaware of such technology until he mentioned it.

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Old 08-06-2011, 12:25 AM   #2
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It sounds like a really stupid feature (or rather DRM with nice packaging). Sure, being able to access all your Digital Copies and various TV-shows in one place is a great idea, but forcing you to use it in order to even play your disc?! That's beyond stupid...

I'll certainly be avoiding every UltraViolet disc ever released.
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:33 AM   #3
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it sounds like a really stupid feature (or rather drm with nice packaging). Sure, being able to access all your digital copies and various tv-shows in one place is a great idea, but forcing you to use it in order to even play your disc?! That's beyond stupid...

I'll certainly be avoiding every ultraviolet disc ever released.
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:39 AM   #4
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Who cares if compaines know what you're watching? By posting your collection on this website companies can freely access it as well!! Honestly just another thing for people to get up in arms about because they need to feel important or part of something. Besides anybody on this forum already has an internet connection so no problem there, it's not like they're sending a company representative to watch any bluray with UV tech in it with you in your living room!
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:35 AM   #5
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This sounds extremely lame. This is exactly why I have come to hate the studios. As soon as they do something good they stack on more DRM.
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:38 AM   #6
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its lame but who cares? why avoid the disc altogether? just dont use the feature...
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:41 AM   #7
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its lame but who cares? why avoid the disc altogether? just dont use the feature...
Not everyone has their player connected to the internet and they shouldn't be forced to either.
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:49 AM   #8
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Not everyone has their player connected to the internet and they shouldn't be forced to either.
nobodys forcing anyone to do anything...
it doesnt say that you have use Ultraviolet to play the disc. im sure when you put it in you can opt to not make a Ultraviolet account and just watch the movie.
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:23 PM   #9
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Not everyone has their player connected to the internet and they shouldn't be forced to either.
I think there's some confusion with this. You don't NEED to be connected to the internet to watch your movie. WHEN / IF you want to log the movie in your UltraViolet cloud locker, you must connect to the internet to "register" the disc, so you can download / stream it wherever you want in the future.

Otherwise, you don't HAVE to be connected with your blu-ray player to watch it.
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:42 AM   #10
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This makes me so unbelievably angry I don't even know where to start. Forcing you to connect to the internet to watch a PHYSICAL COPY OF THE MOVIE THAT YOU PURCHASED?!?!?! My Blu-ray player doesn't even have BD-Live capability. If every studio is adopting this like they say, what then? Am I just completely ****ed? I can't buy or watch any new movies that come with this stupid technology? UUUUGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:46 AM   #11
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Now that's an interesting piece. So basically you need to register and all that before you can actually watch something you already bought, doesn't make sense to me. For me once you buy physical media you don't have to go through hoops in order to use it.
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:48 AM   #12
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I dont like this. It would be fine if it was optional(downloading the movie, incase you lose your disc sounds cool). But no, they force you to make a UltraViolet account and other crap. Just to play your movie. Yeah, NTY. I am glad I wasnt looking forward to buying Green Lantern.

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Old 07-11-2012, 01:31 AM   #13
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Studios...this is why people illegally download movies, so we don't have to deal with this kind of crap.
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:48 PM   #14
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Studios...this is why people illegally download movies, so we don't have to deal with this kind of crap.
No, its because this generation thinks they can have everything free.
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Old 08-06-2011, 01:23 AM   #15
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It took me all of about twenty seconds Googling to get the actual details of this. It seems like "csdot" is closer to right than most people.

This is what people have always suspected the studios wanted. If it takes off, physical movies will have one foot in the grave.

Google search, learn it, love it, use it.
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Old 08-06-2011, 01:25 AM   #16
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From here.

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A vice president of 20th Century Fox, speaking to Pocket-lint, has confirmed that UltraViolet, the cloud-based Blu ray-and-DVD video streaming service, will launch “very soon.” The same Fox executive also says that every major movie studio has signed onto the program, except Disney, and that the only big consumer electronics holdout — Apple — will soon toe the purple line.


But what is UltraViolet exactly? You’d be forgiven for having never heard of it — but once I tell you what it is, you’re either going to dribble with anticipation, or curse like a hippie libertarian who’s just had a bunch of human rights sucked out from underneath him. Basically, UltraViolet is a cloud-based library of your digital possessions. when you buy your first UltraViolet Blu-ray disc and slot it into your Blu-ray player at home, it will connect to the internet and ask you to make an account. this Blu-ray disc will then be forever connected to your UltraViolet account.

Now, there are a slew of seriously useful benefits associated with such a system. if you lose the original disc, don’t worry: just log into UltraViolet and download a copy — or simply stream it from the web. You can also pair multiple devices with your UV account — register the Blu-ray disc at home, and then stream it to your office computer, or your smartphone. this will also be the first ever fully-legal way to download TV shows and movies, too: log into the UV online store, purchase a license, and start watching right away. You’ll even be able to download your online purchase and burn it to DVD or Blu-ray — but of course, for many people, UltraViolet will be a way of finally getting rid of discs and their unsightly plastic cases.

Yes, UltraViolet is awesome — but now take a long, hard look at the caveats. for a start, UltraViolet isn’t just a cloud-based digital library — it’s DRM. To play UV Blu-ray and DVD discs, you need to access your digital library to download your license key — and if you’re not connected to the internet, the TV show or movie simply won’t start. Next, think about this for a second: your entire library of movies and TV shows will be stored in the cloud. There isn’t a single mention on the UltraViolet website that your library will be private — and with almost every major studio, broadcaster, ISP, and tech company on board, you can be guaranteed that they’ll be very interested in the contents of your digital library.

Because UltraViolet media cannot be played without internet access, Big Brother will see exactly what you watch and when you watch it. The powers that be will know exactly what kind of advertisements to show you, both on TV and on the web — and they’ll even be able to turn to companies like Coca-Cola or Verizon and tell them exactly which shows and movies they should buy product placement in.

The truly terrifying thing, though, is that there’s no guarantee that UltraViolet will be around for ever — and like Assassin’s Creed 2 and its infamous, web-based DRM system, what happens if your internet connection goes down when you want to watch a movie? Worse yet, what if UltraViolet is the target of a DDoS attack?

Finally, there will almost certainly be an atrocious Terms of Service that includes a variety of cunning ways for the UV consortium to ban you from their service. Imagine this: the cloud-based UV service will log your IP address when you request an UltraViolet movie or TV show. Now, if you go and torrent a movie, and the UV consortium finds your IP address in the torrent swarm, how much do you want to bet that they’ll disable your UltraViolet account?
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Old 08-06-2011, 05:26 PM   #17
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I will never connect my blu ray player to the Internets as long as I live.
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Old 08-06-2011, 06:14 PM   #18
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Just the start of their attempts to drop bluray altogether. I have been warning about this for countless weeks and all those streaming people say i am mad. All along for me it has been a case of back bluray or go with streaming. Both will not exist. We will go from cinema quality in our homes to not even dvd quality at this rate.
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:07 PM   #19
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Gosh, This sux.

I hate the persistent believe that everyone will buy into "cloud" systems where you give control of your data to someone else... for no reason.

DVD was so huge, so successful. Seems the studios regret giving so much access to movies even in DVD quality.

Seems step one is to try to make sure everyone has to ask for permission to watch anything. it's like if you have to show you ID to enter you own house.

Damn, I'm pissed thinking about such futures. After Hurricane Andrew, I had to show my ID (driver's license) to the National Guard to get into my own neighborhood so I have some experience with such things... not a good feeling, really. This is what they want... the ability to "frisk" ya if you want to watch something.

I can't stand it ... If they insist on taking away my ability to watch movies, it may work.


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Edit - So far I only own 1 UltraViolet Blu Ray because you know Milla Jojovich is so fine and stuff.

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Old 08-06-2011, 06:24 PM   #20
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I hope the optimists here are right, because I don't have my BD player hooked to the internet, and I don't plan to.

On a slightly different topic, this is from that article:

"but of course, for many people, UltraViolet will be a way of finally getting rid of discs and their unsightly plastic cases."

And here's one of the comments at the bottom of the page:

"No one truly wants to OWN a movie, they simply want access to it whenever they want (ala Netflix), this concept is nice, but it fails to address the problem with owning DVDs: you have a stack of physical DVDs you never watch."


This type of talk makes me angry! I love owning my own personal physical library of movies, and they can pry them from my cold dead hands.

All of this talk sounds like a bad info-mercial against blu-ray.-

"Are you tired of having all of those unsightly blue cases cluttering up your house?"(cut to a disheveled pile of blu-rays), "Tired of fumbling around with discs?"(cut to an idiot struggling to remove a disc from a case and dropping it, while sweating profusely, and blowing their hair out of their face).
Idiot: "Please help me! There has got to be a better way!"
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