Okay, we have Tranformers The Movie (1986) - notice the difference?

[kilrfifty]

I just got my blu ray copy of the original transformers movie from amzon.co.uk.

Of course i love the movie & I'm glad i have it, but i cant tell the high def differnce with this one. I wasnt expecting anything major, just something a little more noticeable.

Has anyone, maybe even had a chance to do a side by side comparison with the standard def dvd?

[Algernon]

Originally Posted by kilrfifty

I just got my blu ray copy of the original transformers movie from amzon.co.uk.

Of course i love the movie & I'm glad i have it, but i cant tell the high def differnce with this one. I wasnt expecting anything major, just something a little more noticeable.

Has anyone, maybe even had a chance to do a side by side comparison with the standard def dvd?

With most (especially older) cartoons, upscaling works very well, so a "real" hdtv copy won't make much of a difference, I guess

[ryoohki]

LOL the High Def version of TF totally Trash the DVD version.

all 10 version of TF have Macroblock EVERYWHERE and it's particulary disturbing in the first 2 minutes when the pictures breaks in BLOCK several all. All version does that.

The DVD version all sport Outline Compression witch is noticable on most Anime/Animation with a Black outline on DVD. You can see compression around the black lines, it's more subtle but it's there.

Altought, the BluRay is perfect in this case.

Of course the biggest you're screen his, the more you can see how crappy all dvd's version where and appreciate Transformer The Movie for the first time in home video since VHS without Macroblocks..

[undertaker76]

Originally Posted by ryoohki

LOL the High Def version of TF totally Trash the DVD version.

all 10 version of TF have Macroblock EVERYWHERE and it's particulary disturbing in the first 2 minutes when the pictures breaks in BLOCK several all. All version does that.

The DVD version all sport Outline Compression witch is noticable on most Anime/Animation with a Black outline on DVD. You can see compression around the black lines, it's more subtle but it's there.

Altought, the BluRay is perfect in this case.

Of course the biggest you're screen his, the more you can see how crappy all dvd's version where and appreciate Transformer The Movie for the first time in home video since VHS without Macroblocks..

well said tf is perffect vibrant colour s sharp bright images its as clear as if you were looking at the origanal cells as it was made dvd version is so flat in comparrison op watch it again this time concentrate on background even upscaled u dont get that much detail

[dobyblue]

From Aygie:









There's your difference.

[kilrfifty]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

From Aygie:









There's your difference.

wow

[calcajun]

How can anyone complain about that?
Looks great.

[Musashi]

Whoa..it's like Megatron goes from being blue to gray.

[Frode]

While those shots show how bad the original DVD release was, they won't of course show how it benefits from HD - not with the resolution of the pictures used. It should look even better in person. It is a very important point to note however, in that part of the benefit of Blu-ray and HD DVD is that old material gets remastered and cleaned up using modern equipment. Just marketing it on DVD as a "new transfer" wouldn't necessarily be enough to encourage people to buy it, whereas stick it on Blu and it has more marketing value. They'll associate the new disc format with the improved transfer, not just fancy words and hype.

[ben7ben3]

the dvd doesn't look that bad, i have it. i just went to those scenes and paused them, and they are almost exactly like the hd version. i don't know who took those pics but they are not correct....the blu ray is slightly better, but not extraordinarily better

[ryoohki]

I say get it if you're bothered by the Heavy Macroblock this title have, the latest Metrodome version have it 80% of the movie LOL.... it's worth it for that and the 1.5mbits DTS track The BluRay version don,t have any of those, so it's picture perfect as far as the master is today..

If you don't see the Macroblocking on the dvd, then it's most likely that you've never seen it on dvd!.. Ahh... a Projector really open you're eye on the DVD format

[BTBuck1]

Here's my mini review fromt he Other thread:

Originally Posted by BTBuck1

OK, here is my mini review...I'll just cover PQ & Sound since you all have seen this and obviously <3 this movie like I do

Most reviews start off with the praise then the bad stuff, I'm gonna do things a lil different here, so here goes:

Video: 2 1/2 stars: Average
First off the Detail can go from Stunning to WTF? in 60 seconds.
There was obviously little to no cleaning up of this film before transfer.
Many scenes are filled with white scratches, nicks etc.
I saw a few area's where parts of the print looked weathered or faded as well. It wasn't always there I'd say about 30% of the time, hell most of the beginning I didn't notice it, it comes and goes and seems to spring up more in farther out shots rather than closeups. Now that we got that out of the way, on to the good stuff. When this movie looks good, it looks as good as you'd expect. The detail is superb with only two questionable spots, the two instances with softness were toward the very end, a shot of Unicron from far off while he was in robot form and one of the Junkticons all dancing holding hands, that was it. The rest of it looked great. Autobot city on Earth generally looked superb, especially the artistry of the mountains, etc.

Sorry guys, I'm gonna have to give this a 2 1/2, had the debris & scratches not been there, (or been cleaned up) and the couple of weathered spots cleaned up this would have been an easy 4. But I don't think we will ever get that wish, I think if you are a fan of the film, you just have to accept this is the best we'll have til a re master is done (If Ever).


AUDIO: 4 stars: GREAT!

I didn't even bother with anything but the DTS Track. It seems to be a lil low for a DTS track. On my Pioneer vsx1014tx I generally listen to DTS tracks around 14, and DD at 9. With this one, most of the time I listened to it around 10-12, occasionally going to 9.

The Audio is almost as wishy washy as the Video. Going from Dynamic and heart pounding to tiny and weak at times. But fortunately the weak moments in the sound field are few and far between. Most of the time, the Dialog is easy to hear and for an Animated film from 86' I'm shocked they got this much out of it. The Voice of Prime & Unicron are deep and exactly what you'd expect. Only a few explosions disappointed.

For the good stuff, and what pushed this up to a 4. The soundtrack!
Man, I really got into the 80's soundtrack. This was when I turned it down, it seems when the music comes in it gets Loud!!! Which is what ya want really.
The Transformers theme at the end is just awesome and I listened to it all the way through, and "You got the Touch" has never sounded better. This DTS track will not Disappoint!



All in all if you are a fan of the Film, this is a must have. If you can look past it's deficiencies and accept it for it's age and what the alternatives are (piss poor DVD transfers with a soft image and all the same problems + ringing and DVD artifacts) The you will be in Autobot heaven~!
Hope that helps you guys in making your decision!