Spider-Man box set lack of extras - Blu-ray Forum

infamous76 · 10-16-2007, 12:06 PM

Hi people, new memeber on this site but i felt i HAD to join and vioce my utter disgust for what Sony/Blu Ray are doing to us comsumers - RIPPING US OFF BIG TIME

I had the unfortunate experience of foolishly buying the Spidey Boxset on BluRay yesterday. was so excited to see it in all it's glory only to find that the first 2 films are a budget release of the films and the 3rd film u seem to get everything.

My question is this - what is the purpose of a boxset??? isn't it supposed to include EVERYTHING so u wont need to buy it AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN. I am SICK TO DEATH with this industry with thinking that us comsumers should buy a film 3-4 times in order to get all the features. which leads me to these points.

1. Why do they boast that BluRay has all this space on the discs but then have the cheek to put Spiderman 1 and 2 in a boxset package with NO features on it

2. Why put the Spiderman 3 trailer on all THREE discs

3. When it was launched it was stated that u could download extra content unto the discs (i assume that is what all this space was for) if that is the case where is that option, i notice NO word on that front AT ALL.

i am a guy that loves his films, games, technology in general - but i have to say it has come to the point when i am gonna have to BOYCOTT bluray and sony once and for all unless they staart to treat us comsumers with a lil more respect with their releases.

ie. why no trailer on cruel intentions, but it's on the supposedly inferior DVD version

no features on Speed (well not as the DVD special edition)

NO DTS audio on Reign Of Fire

i could go on

WHAT IS THIS HIGH DEF for if u have to STILL buy the same films more than once - IT IS JUST NOT ON....

I would love to hear what u guys have to say on this

p.s. by the way, IF ANYONE WANTS THE SPIDEY BOXSET - let me know I'll let it go for £35.00

aygie · 10-16-2007, 12:10 PM

You missed one.....no lossless on Transfomers

Personally i don't mind, i like movies not extra features and this is the first time all 3 movies are on Blu. (got my boxset last week)

MacDaddyOJack · 10-16-2007, 12:10 PM

Chill man, its a new format.... its not like they have previously released any of the movies you are ranting about on Blu-ray. Give it a bit more time, you'll get the stuff you want. Or you could have just waited for the review if you are that worried about extras.

MOONPHASE · 10-16-2007, 12:13 PM

you could rent them and just see it that way without having to buy the whole box set if you want

UltimateFighter · 10-16-2007, 12:14 PM

While I agree that BD should add all the stuff they can...who cares about movie trailers? Go to youtube and watch it. BD's have the best PQ and AQ, most of us don't really care about special features.

SS316SRV · 10-16-2007, 12:15 PM

Well for starters, features really are not high on my list of necessities. I just want the best picture and audio quality. Second, because they can - it's a special feature so you have at least one per disc. Finally, Regin of Fire has a Dolby PCM track which is a little stronger than DTS.

MOONPHASE · 10-16-2007, 12:15 PM

the only extras i want in my movies are interactivity, deleted scenes, and trailers otherwise could care less about the extras

RedIsNotBlue · 10-16-2007, 12:15 PM

Both formats are having weird issues when it comes to these things. Like for example their are plenty of HD DVD's out there that have jackshit to offer when it comes to bonus features and most recently with Transformers (probably the flagship release for HD DVD this time of the year) only has Dolby Digital Plus audio...no PCM, no DTS, no TrueHD. I am not saying Blu-Ray doesn't have this issues but to single them out is a little silly when HD DVD isn't exactly going all out on every title themselves. Just my 2 cents.

dobyblue · 10-16-2007, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infamous76

NO DTS audio on Reign Of Fire

The audio on Reign of Fire is far superior to DTS. It's uncompressed lossless audio - matching the studio master. DTS is lossy, like .mp3's and dolby digital.

The Spider-man box set is for people who just want not S3, but the previous two movies in high def. With TrueHD tracks and 1080p, I couldn't care less what else is on there as chances are I'd never see it anyway.

bhampton · 10-16-2007, 12:17 PM

Hey,

Sorry to hear about your troubles. PM me with your address and I'll have a friend swing by and pick these up so you don't have to bother with them anymore.

-Brian

Teazle · 10-16-2007, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infamous76

i could go on

Please don't.

Musashi · 10-16-2007, 12:25 PM

Last I checked, the Blu-ray Spider Man 2 comes with the 2.1 version of of the film built in via seamless branching/option menus to decide which cut to watch.

Damiesmallz · 10-16-2007, 12:28 PM

I guess Sony feels everyone and their mama bought the DVDs, so why bother with the extras, just give them good picture. I don't mind because I have the DVDs and they would have been 480p anyway. I understand where your coming from though.

Moefiz · 10-16-2007, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infamous76

Hi people, new memeber on this site but i felt i HAD to join and vioce my utter disgust for what Sony/Blu Ray are doing to us comsumers - RIPPING US OFF BIG TIME

I had the unfortunate experience of foolishly buying the Spidey Boxset on BluRay yesterday. was so excited to see it in all it's glory only to find that the first 2 films are a budget release of the films and the 3rd film u seem to get everything.

My question is this - what is the purpose of a boxset??? isn't it supposed to include EVERYTHING so u wont need to buy it AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN. I am SICK TO DEATH with this industry with thinking that us comsumers should buy a film 3-4 times in order to get all the features. which leads me to these points.

1. Why do they boast that BluRay has all this space on the discs but then have the cheek to put Spiderman 1 and 2 in a boxset package with NO features on it

2. Why put the Spiderman 3 trailer on all THREE discs

3. When it was launched it was stated that u could download extra content unto the discs (i assume that is what all this space was for) if that is the case where is that option, i notice NO word on that front AT ALL.

i am a guy that loves his films, games, technology in general - but i have to say it has come to the point when i am gonna have to BOYCOTT bluray and sony once and for all unless they staart to treat us comsumers with a lil more respect with their releases.

ie. why no trailer on cruel intentions, but it's on the supposedly inferior DVD version

no features on Speed (well not as the DVD special edition)

NO DTS audio on Reign Of Fire

i could go on

WHAT IS THIS HIGH DEF for if u have to STILL buy the same films more than once - IT IS JUST NOT ON....

I would love to hear what u guys have to say on this

p.s. by the way, IF ANYONE WANTS THE SPIDEY BOXSET - let me know I'll let it go for £35.00

TAKE IT EASY.....TAKE IT EASY...NEW FORMAT...PROBLEMS COME WITH IT....ENJOY---ENJOY------

Dvd's spoiled us.....

MOONPHASE · 10-16-2007, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damiesmallz

I guess Sony feels everyone and their mama bought the DVDs, so why bother with the extras, just give them good picture. I don't mind because I have the DVDs and they would have been 480p anyone. I understand where your coming from though.

actually you could upscale those extras into near HD from the dvd version

NutsAboutPS3 · 10-16-2007, 12:40 PM

Paidgeek (insider from Sony Pictures) has said in the past that they're not keen on putting SD special features on Blu-ray releases because they don't feel they go well with the HD main feature. I don't personally agree with this strategy, but that seems to be the reason why they don't carry over the DVD special features.

SS316SRV · 10-16-2007, 12:41 PM

Curious silence from Infamous76...

Damiesmallz · 10-16-2007, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

Curious silence from Infamous76...

Stop posting, a troll.

MOONPHASE · 10-16-2007, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damiesmallz

Stop posting, a troll.

maybe you are right about that we will see soon enough

infamous76 · 10-16-2007, 12:49 PM

hey i aint gone quiet fellas - just at work and doing stuff ;-)

on the real, can anyone tell me how u get the pcm lossless sound out of your amp - i have a yamaha mid range (which only takes optical and coaxial) is it a case of having a amp which takes HDMI???

IF I GET THAT SORTED I MAY FALL IN LOVE WITH BLURAY again ;-)

10-16-2007, 12:06 PM	#1
infamous76 Junior Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:London	Spider-Man box set lack of extras Hi people, new memeber on this site but i felt i HAD to join and vioce my utter disgust for what Sony/Blu Ray are doing to us comsumers - RIPPING US OFF BIG TIME I had the unfortunate experience of foolishly buying the Spidey Boxset on BluRay yesterday. was so excited to see it in all it's glory only to find that the first 2 films are a budget release of the films and the 3rd film u seem to get everything. My question is this - what is the purpose of a boxset??? isn't it supposed to include EVERYTHING so u wont need to buy it AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN. I am SICK TO DEATH with this industry with thinking that us comsumers should buy a film 3-4 times in order to get all the features. which leads me to these points. 1. Why do they boast that BluRay has all this space on the discs but then have the cheek to put Spiderman 1 and 2 in a boxset package with NO features on it 2. Why put the Spiderman 3 trailer on all THREE discs 3. When it was launched it was stated that u could download extra content unto the discs (i assume that is what all this space was for) if that is the case where is that option, i notice NO word on that front AT ALL. i am a guy that loves his films, games, technology in general - but i have to say it has come to the point when i am gonna have to BOYCOTT bluray and sony once and for all unless they staart to treat us comsumers with a lil more respect with their releases. ie. why no trailer on cruel intentions, but it's on the supposedly inferior DVD version no features on Speed (well not as the DVD special edition) NO DTS audio on Reign Of Fire i could go on WHAT IS THIS HIGH DEF for if u have to STILL buy the same films more than once - IT IS JUST NOT ON.... I would love to hear what u guys have to say on this p.s. by the way, IF ANYONE WANTS THE SPIDEY BOXSET - let me know I'll let it go for £35.00

10-16-2007, 12:28 PM	#13
Damiesmallz Senior Member Member since:May 2007 Location:New York Blu-ray collection:115	I guess Sony feels everyone and their mama bought the DVDs, so why bother with the extras, just give them good picture. I don't mind because I have the DVDs and they would have been 480p anyway. I understand where your coming from though. Last edited by Damiesmallz; 10-16-2007 at 12:32 PM.

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10-16-2007, 12:10 PM	#2
aygie Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:PSN Network: Aygie Blu-ray collection:99	You missed one.....no lossless on Transfomers Personally i don't mind, i like movies not extra features and this is the first time all 3 movies are on Blu. (got my boxset last week)

10-16-2007, 12:10 PM	#3
MacDaddyOJack Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Richmond, VA PSNetwork: MacDaddyOJack Trophy Level: 12(4%) Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:71 Blu-ray reviews:23 Trading Score:4	Chill man, its a new format.... its not like they have previously released any of the movies you are ranting about on Blu-ray. Give it a bit more time, you'll get the stuff you want. Or you could have just waited for the review if you are that worried about extras.

10-16-2007, 12:13 PM	#4
MOONPHASE Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jun 2007 Location:California 4K collection:8 Blu-ray collection:520 DVD collection:820 Blu-ray reviews:18 Trading Score:29	you could rent them and just see it that way without having to buy the whole box set if you want

10-16-2007, 12:14 PM	#5
UltimateFighter Active Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Snohomish, WA Blu-ray collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:11	While I agree that BD should add all the stuff they can...who cares about movie trailers? Go to youtube and watch it. BD's have the best PQ and AQ, most of us don't really care about special features.

10-16-2007, 12:15 PM	#6
SS316SRV Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Appleton, WI Blu-ray collection:74	Well for starters, features really are not high on my list of necessities. I just want the best picture and audio quality. Second, because they can - it's a special feature so you have at least one per disc. Finally, Regin of Fire has a Dolby PCM track which is a little stronger than DTS.

10-16-2007, 12:15 PM	#8
RedIsNotBlue Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray collection:503 Digital collection:10 Trading Score:226	Both formats are having weird issues when it comes to these things. Like for example their are plenty of HD DVD's out there that have jackshit to offer when it comes to bonus features and most recently with Transformers (probably the flagship release for HD DVD this time of the year) only has Dolby Digital Plus audio...no PCM, no DTS, no TrueHD. I am not saying Blu-Ray doesn't have this issues but to single them out is a little silly when HD DVD isn't exactly going all out on every title themselves. Just my 2 cents.

10-16-2007, 12:17 PM	#10
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:981 Blu-ray collection:2537 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	Hey, Sorry to hear about your troubles. PM me with your address and I'll have a friend swing by and pick these up so you don't have to bother with them anymore. -Brian

10-16-2007, 12:25 PM	#12
Musashi Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Manchester, CT Home Theater Gallery:5 4K collection:25 Blu-ray collection:337 Blu-ray reviews: 1	Last I checked, the Blu-ray Spider Man 2 comes with the 2.1 version of of the film built in via seamless branching/option menus to decide which cut to watch.

10-16-2007, 12:40 PM	#16
NutsAboutPS3 Expert Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:UK Blu-ray reviews:1	Paidgeek (insider from Sony Pictures) has said in the past that they're not keen on putting SD special features on Blu-ray releases because they don't feel they go well with the HD main feature. I don't personally agree with this strategy, but that seems to be the reason why they don't carry over the DVD special features.

10-16-2007, 12:41 PM	#17
SS316SRV Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Appleton, WI Blu-ray collection:74	Curious silence from Infamous76...

10-16-2007, 12:49 PM	#20
infamous76 Junior Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:London	hey i aint gone quiet fellas - just at work and doing stuff ;-) on the real, can anyone tell me how u get the pcm lossless sound out of your amp - i have a yamaha mid range (which only takes optical and coaxial) is it a case of having a amp which takes HDMI??? IF I GET THAT SORTED I MAY FALL IN LOVE WITH BLURAY again ;-)

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