The Samsung BD-P1000 Review Thread - Blu-ray Forum

Marwin · 06-15-2006, 03:48 AM

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=688422
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=688411

The good:

- Terminator looks terrific

The bad:

- Fifth Element wouldn't play

suprmallet · 06-15-2006, 03:55 AM

Fifth Element wouldn't even play??! Oh, that's bad.

Dr Kain · 06-15-2006, 04:00 AM

He says he got a defective disc though, so it was not the player.

Oh, I live in CO, and one user there says the BB here got in their units. WTF?

suprmallet · 06-15-2006, 04:11 AM

Oh, ok, that's not so bad.

AV_Integrated · 06-15-2006, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain

He says he got a defective disc though, so it was not the player.

Oh, I live in CO, and one user there says the BB here got in their units. WTF?

BB got their players in stock - that's a report from a BB employee. It is likely that all the Samsung players will be arriving at stores over the next week so there can be a national launch on 6/25 as expected.

Yet, I read as recently as yesterday, that Blu-ray wasn't going to ship anywhere until Fall on a forum. People often hear just what they want to.

Not good that a disc had issues right away... Blu-ray manufacturing needs to be spot-on for the amount that the players cost and the competition being in place.

Should be a fun holiday season!

Dr Kain · 06-15-2006, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AV_Integrated

BB got their players in stock - that's a report from a BB employee. It is likely that all the Samsung players will be arriving at stores over the next week so there can be a national launch on 6/25 as expected.

Yep. I'm just waiting on my call from Ultimate Electronics to tell me that my preorder has come in.

Quote:

Yet, I read as recently as yesterday, that Blu-ray wasn't going to ship anywhere until Fall on a forum. People often hear just what they want to.

The delay was for the UK.

phloyd · 06-15-2006, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AV_Integrated

Not good that a disc had issues right away... Blu-ray manufacturing needs to be spot-on for the amount that the players cost and the competition being in place.

Indeed - makes me wary of using Amazon or other online sources for discs.

suprmallet · 06-15-2006, 08:34 PM

I think your chances of getting faulty discs is the same in store as it would be online. Considering the Durabis II protection on the discs, they should be pretty darned scratch resistant. Most likely the faulty disc was due to production error.

ClaytonMG · 06-15-2006, 09:31 PM

I think he just meant it's easier to exchange the stuff when you buy it in a store, instead of going through the mess of sending it back and whatnot.

JTK · 06-16-2006, 01:05 AM

This is 10 days early. I have to wonder if these stores that broke the street date of the launch aren't going to be in some serious trouble for this...

suprmallet · 06-18-2006, 01:24 AM

Here is the most in-depth review I've seen of the Samsung, and it's not good:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post7850079

I would post it all, but the forum says my post is too long by 282 characters.

The Don · 06-18-2006, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suprmallet

Here is the most in-depth review I've seen of the Samsung, and it's not good:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post7850079

I would post it all, but the forum says my post is too long by 282 characters.

well, remember...this is Samsung we're talking about....

Sony made a big mistake by not being the 1st one's to drop for BD....

Samsung has a horrible track record with DVD players....so the BD scenario should be no different IMO...

Dr Kain · 06-18-2006, 02:40 AM

What do you mean? Sony couldn't make a decent DVD player if their money depended on it. Samsung on the other hand, could make something that outlasted a Sony by 5 years.

AV_Integrated · 06-18-2006, 03:10 AM

I tend to agree - neither Sony nor Samsung have one of the best track records... Pioneer Elite and Panasonic though are two manufacturing names that continually sit near the top of the list for product build, design, and image quality.

I'm not terribly suprised by any of the reviews or info... This whole first generation product thing is very typical of the industry. The Internet, is doing things to debut products that has never been seen before. If this type of coverage had been out when the DCT-100 by RCA came out (first generation HD-DSS receiver) people would have been flipping out over the lousy build quality.

I think MPEG2 is excellent - if you have the space. Single layer Blu-ray + MPEG2 isn't what I would consider good for the product at all. Dual layer? Sure - no issues in my mind on that.

This furthers my opinion that the PS3 will be a good purchase later this year. I can't imagine the quality being worse than other first generation Blu-ray players and is way easier to justify to my wife.

The Don · 06-18-2006, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain

What do you mean? Sony couldn't make a decent DVD player if their money depended on it. Samsung on the other hand, could make something that outlasted a Sony by 5 years.

I figured that since they were the powerhorse in the BD platform...they'd make at least a better player than Samsung...

Samsung might be one of the worst name brands that make DVD players...

I won't couple them with a GPX, Sylvania or a Memorex lol...but...they are notorious for glitchy players and I wouldn't spend a G on a Samsung BD player....

and for people who commented on the reviews in the link posted above...one person replied saying that he didn't think it was the player....basically saying they'll all look like that.......

that's a short-sighted way to look at it...especially since there are plenty of regular DVD players that vary in quality.....even up-conversion DVD players vary between one another...

I have 2 samsung upconversion DVD players in my house

...the newer one dwarfs the older one in every aspect....Toshiba makes a better one than either Sony or Samsung....but Panasonic and Pioneer make better players than all of them...

that's where the comparison should lie....Panasonic or Pioneer vs Toshiba...

but since the Panasonic is cheaper....that should be the one to compare....not the one that is 3x the price of the Toshiba...

suprmallet · 06-18-2006, 07:43 PM

The bigger problem is that they're using MPEG 2 on single-layer media. They need to be using VC-1 and dual-layer media to get a much better picture.

zombie · 06-18-2006, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suprmallet

The bigger problem is that they're using MPEG 2 on single-layer media. They need to be using VC-1 and dual-layer media to get a much better picture.

Or at least MPEG2 on a dual layer disc.

suprmallet · 06-18-2006, 08:34 PM

Yes, dual-layer is desperately needed here. But there are still better codecs out there than MPEG 2.

Dave · 08-31-2006, 05:19 PM

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If the Samsung BD-P1000 is already capable of this kind of quality now, I can’t wait to see what it can do when all these other things come to surface!

Quote:

the BD-P1000 has made me once again fall in love with high definition movies.

The full first fair review goes gere:

http://www.futurelooks.com//?m=show&id=330&page=1

BTBuck1 · 08-31-2006, 06:15 PM

his review of the player is about on par with my thoughts of the player using it here. i'd probably give the player an 8.0 also.

06-15-2006, 03:48 AM	#1
Marwin Developer Top contributor Member since:May 2003 Blu-ray collection:10 DVD collection:5 iTunes collection:1	The Samsung BD-P1000 Review Thread http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=688422 http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=688411 The good: - Terminator looks terrific The bad: - Fifth Element wouldn't play

06-15-2006, 04:00 AM	#3
Dr Kain Banned Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Denver CO	He says he got a defective disc though, so it was not the player. Oh, I live in CO, and one user there says the BB here got in their units. WTF? Last edited by Dr Kain; 06-15-2006 at 04:05 AM.

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06-15-2006, 03:55 AM	#2
suprmallet Active Member Member since:Jun 2006 Blu-ray collection:264	Fifth Element wouldn't even play??! Oh, that's bad.

06-15-2006, 04:11 AM	#4
suprmallet Active Member Member since:Jun 2006 Blu-ray collection:264	Oh, ok, that's not so bad.

06-15-2006, 08:34 PM	#8
suprmallet Active Member Member since:Jun 2006 Blu-ray collection:264	I think your chances of getting faulty discs is the same in store as it would be online. Considering the Durabis II protection on the discs, they should be pretty darned scratch resistant. Most likely the faulty disc was due to production error.

06-15-2006, 09:31 PM	#9
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:833 Blu-ray collection:2370 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	I think he just meant it's easier to exchange the stuff when you buy it in a store, instead of going through the mess of sending it back and whatnot.

06-16-2006, 01:05 AM	#10
JTK Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2006 Location:www.blurayoasis.com	This is 10 days early. I have to wonder if these stores that broke the street date of the launch aren't going to be in some serious trouble for this...

06-18-2006, 01:24 AM	#11
suprmallet Active Member Member since:Jun 2006 Blu-ray collection:264	Here is the most in-depth review I've seen of the Samsung, and it's not good: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post7850079 I would post it all, but the forum says my post is too long by 282 characters.

06-18-2006, 02:40 AM	#13
Dr Kain Banned Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Denver CO	What do you mean? Sony couldn't make a decent DVD player if their money depended on it. Samsung on the other hand, could make something that outlasted a Sony by 5 years.

06-18-2006, 03:10 AM	#14
AV_Integrated Senior Member Member since:Jan 2005	I tend to agree - neither Sony nor Samsung have one of the best track records... Pioneer Elite and Panasonic though are two manufacturing names that continually sit near the top of the list for product build, design, and image quality. I'm not terribly suprised by any of the reviews or info... This whole first generation product thing is very typical of the industry. The Internet, is doing things to debut products that has never been seen before. If this type of coverage had been out when the DCT-100 by RCA came out (first generation HD-DSS receiver) people would have been flipping out over the lousy build quality. I think MPEG2 is excellent - if you have the space. Single layer Blu-ray + MPEG2 isn't what I would consider good for the product at all. Dual layer? Sure - no issues in my mind on that. This furthers my opinion that the PS3 will be a good purchase later this year. I can't imagine the quality being worse than other first generation Blu-ray players and is way easier to justify to my wife.

06-18-2006, 07:43 PM	#16
suprmallet Active Member Member since:Jun 2006 Blu-ray collection:264	The bigger problem is that they're using MPEG 2 on single-layer media. They need to be using VC-1 and dual-layer media to get a much better picture.

06-18-2006, 08:34 PM	#18
suprmallet Active Member Member since:Jun 2006 Blu-ray collection:264	Yes, dual-layer is desperately needed here. But there are still better codecs out there than MPEG 2.

08-31-2006, 06:15 PM	#20
BTBuck1 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Oceanside, CA. Blu-ray collection:507 DVD collection:1	his review of the player is about on par with my thoughts of the player using it here. i'd probably give the player an 8.0 also.

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