Fast & Furious 7 (2015) [No 3D Blu-ray]

[levcore]

Scorpion Soldier posted this Chinese poster in the movie forum:


So a Chinese conversion then? I'd be very, very interested to check this out. Could have another import scenario on my hands as my curiosity will definitely make me want to check this out.

[whippet]

Def looks interesting. What's the other one you imported, FF6?

[Zivouhr]

Hopefully it's solid 3D. I wonder if we'll get to import these movies or if the China Conversion and film rights company will keep it from export? I still haven't heard anything about Robocop 3D.

[punkskins]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

Hopefully it's solid 3D. I wonder if we'll get to import these movies or if the China Conversion and film rights company will keep it from export? I still haven't heard anything about Robocop 3D.

Robocop 3D or Робокоп 3D turned up for sale in Russia/Ukraine on some blu ray and dvd websites but i havent had a chance to look into it more or a chance to purchase it.

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

Hopefully it's solid 3D. I wonder if we'll get to import these movies or if the China Conversion and film rights company will keep it from export? I still haven't heard anything about Robocop 3D.

It will be a cheap Chinese conversion if it is only for China. Best to avoid those.

[Paul H]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

It will be a cheap Chinese conversion if it is only for China. Best to avoid those.

Experienced more than one terrible cheap conversion from Germany(?), but wasn't Noah originally converted for the China market?

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by punkskins

Robocop 3D or Робокоп 3D turned up for sale in Russia/Ukraine on some blu ray and dvd websites but i havent had a chance to look into it more or a chance to purchase it.

Thanks for the info.

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

It will be a cheap Chinese conversion if it is only for China. Best to avoid those.

I'd have to hear more news about it before judging the 3D, but if the involved China 3D studio was cranking out weak 3D conversions, then they'd be punishing China 3D fans for paying to see it in 3D and those fans would eventually get tired of the poor 3D effect. Hopefully that's not the case, and they're making the 3D as strong as possible, but given the short amount of time they have to convert it to 3D, say less than a few months?

Not sure how that works and when this is released since many high budget special effects movies are often being completed till the very last minute before it hits theaters.

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by Paul H

Experienced more than one terrible cheap conversion from Germany(?), but wasn't Noah originally converted for the China market?

That was stereo D wasn't it and for a few different international markets? Whereas this likely done by a Chinese conversion company, so expect minimal depth with an also unfinished conversion. I hope I'm wrong for those who like the idea, even though I have no interest in the film and would opt for the 2d release if I where to see it as that is how it was intended to be seen.

[levcore]

Originally Posted by whippet

Def looks interesting. What's the other one you imported, FF6?

Transcendence. Whilst it wasn't the Chinese release i imported, it was the German one that had the 3D conversion that had been done for China. It was disappointing to say the least.

[levcore]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

Hopefully it's solid 3D. I wonder if we'll get to import these movies or if the China Conversion and film rights company will keep it from export? I still haven't heard anything about Robocop 3D.

I would love for Robocop 2014 to have had a great 3D conversion, but after seeing Transcendence i'd lower my expectations. As Furious 7 is a much bigger movie than Transcendence I would hope that more time and effort would have gone into the conversion. But then Transcendence was a Chinese co-production and that didn't really get it's full 3D potential explored.

[levcore]

Originally Posted by punkskins

Robocop 3D or Робокоп 3D turned up for sale in Russia/Ukraine on some blu ray and dvd websites but i havent had a chance to look into it more or a chance to purchase it.

I'd definitely be interested in getting my hands on a copy, just to see at least.

[levcore]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

That was stereo D wasn't it and for a few different international markets? Whereas this likely done by a Chinese conversion company, so expect minimal depth with an also unfinished conversion. I hope I'm wrong for those who like the idea, even though I have no interest in the film and would opt for the 2d release if I where to see it as that is how it was intended to be seen.

What i don't understand is that China is a forefront of so many technological revolutions and they are a very tech savvy nation so why aren't they better at doing 3D conversions? I know there are a lot of factors but i would have thought they would have the time, resources and skills to get a good Chinese company to complete the conversion. As Zivouhr has already said, no one benefits from a crappy conversion, it just turns people off 3D.

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by levcore

What i don't understand is that China is a forefront of so many technological revolutions and they are a very tech savvy nation so why aren't they better at doing 3D conversions? I know there are a lot of factors but i would have thought they would have the time, resources and skills to get a good Chinese company to complete the conversion. As Zivouhr has already said, no one benefits from a crappy conversion, it just turns people off 3D.

This is just from what I have seen, so don't take this as well researched information. But I would say it is because you can't just demand people suddenly know how to do something, it takes time and even then you will always be playing catch up unless you invest huge amounts of cash and even then it will take time and their is no guarantee you will outclass or even match your competition.

Chinese films frequently have the same issue as they often use only their own companies. Whereas Hollywood and so on will use weta in New Zealand, double negative in America and other groups from Australia and the UK and so on. Compare something like the CGI in Lucy to a similar budget film from China. One looks great, the other looks cheap.

Put simply their talent pool isn't high enough and their budgets are also not large enough for the projects they seem to be interested in. That isn't to say that their are not talented people working in their industry, just that talent alone isn't enough, you need the knowledge, experience and capital to back it up. Also being willing to hire different groups world wide offers far more options which when they already have a head start and thus are more experienced.

More succinctly put they have the Clash of the Titans problem, rushed under budgeted and unnecessary conversions that I can only assume keep cropping up as the Chinese audience hasn't created a backlash against it like happened with Clash of the Titans and other poor 3d conversions.

[levcore]

Thanks for the explanation, makes sense. It just beggars belief that Chinese audiences aren't more discerning. After seeing Transcendence in 3D i cannot believe that any audience was actually impressed with that 3D presentation. I can only hope that the Chinese conversion companies are getting better with every movie they do.

If only they could all use Stereo D like Noah did.

[fitprod]

Originally Posted by levcore

Thanks for the explanation, makes sense. It just beggars belief that Chinese audiences aren't more discerning.

If they want to see a film that has been converted to 3D, they can't be discerning, they don't present these converted films in 2D in China.

Fitprod

[levcore]

Originally Posted by fitprod

If they want to see a film that has been converted to 3D, they can't be discerning, they don't present these converted films in 2D in China.

Fitprod

Insanity, I literally can't believe that.

[fitprod]

Originally Posted by levcore

Insanity, I literally can't believe that.

It's pretty much that way, China controls their film industry so tightly, they get final say of what's released, and limits the amount of time imported films can be shown.

Hell, Noah was completely prepped for a 4D, or whatever they call that new Korean amusement ride process, and once the government saw the film, and realized the content, cancelled the film's release. (How the Chinese government let it get that far, considering the general knowledge of story of Noah, I don't know what Paramount was thinking spending that extra money. - Completely against the wishes of the actual Director, on top of it.)

While you could say that's not related, it is... Studios only get a flat 25% of the theatrical grosses, combine that with a limited window (about 5 weeks from what I can tell), you have no choice but to show in 3D only in order to recoup the costs. (No matter how cheap the conversions are...)

fitprod

[levcore]

That's nuts. You'd think Chinese audiences would revolt. If 3D showings were forced on us here in the UK without any option of a 2D showing, a lot of people would be very vocal about it.

[fitprod]

Originally Posted by levcore

That's nuts. You'd think Chinese audiences would revolt. If 3D showings were forced on us here in the UK without any option of a 2D showing, a lot of people would be very vocal about it.

You have to thing about the different society where almost everything is controlled by the government... While it's only film going, it is still a situation where the viewers are not given a choice, and since they're used to the restrictions, they may figure they have no choice.

When you ultimately thing about it, the only countries where 3D is honestly holding up are Asia and Russia, where "choice" is much more limited. (No all of Asia, but you get my point...)

fitprod

[Suntory_Times]

Is their a premium for 3d in China though? Or is it used solely as a way to get people to turn up.