Xbox 360 Owners - Look

[DrinkMore]

I have a simple question. My brother bought me an Xbox 360 Halo edition a day after they came out. Then he got one for himself because he liked it a lot! He already had the regular white version. My other brother also has the regular white version.

One thing I noticed is the plug on the 360 brick/power cord. There is NO GROUND! Why is there no ground on this thing? The older versions have a ground as confirmed by my brothers older 360's.

Why would they not include a ground?? It makes no sense. That and the fact that this plug is not really tight in the brick kinda pisses me off. Brand new and it's loose. Go figure.

Anyways, I was wondering if anyone else noticed this or just me?

[Jokerboy649]

Oh that's interesting I did not know that. Mine has Ground but yea it is an older version but I didn't know they stopped doing that, hmm..

[CGYBLU]

Well, It's still power grounded for fault protection... one of them prongs is bigger than the other, yeah?

Let's be honest, it's not like it's a high current drill with a user accessed metal housing.... and hey, if a few 360 users get a couple of jolts to go along with their red circles all the better j/k

[DrinkMore]

Yeah, but most all electronics are grounded for specific reasons.

[Mr. Hanky]

Actually, a 2 prong plug is preferable when it comes to an AV device. As soon as you get into 3-prong, you invite all sorts of induced noise and hum issues into the rest of your system. I certainly wish they made ps3 with 2 prong from the start, but I imagine some sticky factors come into play when it comes to high-powered devices and computer equipment (both of which are typically 3-pronged).

[tru2blu707]

Originally Posted by CGYBLU

Well, It's still power grounded for fault protection... one of them prongs is bigger than the other, yeah?

Let's be honest, it's not like it's a high current drill with a user accessed metal housing.... and hey, if a few 360 users get a couple of jolts to go along with their red circles all the better j/k

LMAO red ring of death! RUN!!

[DrinkMore]

Interesting, I did not know that 2 prong was preferred!

[UlicBelouve]

I'm going to throw in the same comments I almost always make:

I have one of the first generation XBOX 360s, bought on release day, it has travelled over 10,000 in the back of my car as I relocate or go to visit friends. I have played multiple 12-hour stretches on it. 2 years later, it works fine, no RRoD.

I am not concerned about the RRoD, it seems like the same category of FUD that we hate to hear. Yes, it happens, but I feel it is overblown. It's like saying EVERY copy of the Harry Potter box set will have an HD-DVD in it. It was a rarity, and will become less common over time. The drives, chipsets, and processors continue to be refined on the 360, so the specs will change and the system will get more stable. It seems the power cord is another change in the right direction, though, like I said, I have not had an issue with my first-gen one. I might seek an updated cord, though.

[sj001]

Originally Posted by UlicBelouve

I'm going to throw in the same comments I almost always make:

I have one of the first generation XBOX 360s, bought on release day, it has travelled over 10,000 in the back of my car as I relocate or go to visit friends. I have played multiple 12-hour stretches on it. 2 years later, it works fine, no RRoD.

I am not concerned about the RRoD, it seems like the same category of FUD that we hate to hear. Yes, it happens, but I feel it is overblown. It's like saying EVERY copy of the Harry Potter box set will have an HD-DVD in it. It was a rarity, and will become less common over time. The drives, chipsets, and processors continue to be refined on the 360, so the specs will change and the system will get more stable. It seems the power cord is another change in the right direction, though, like I said, I have not had an issue with my first-gen one. I might seek an updated cord, though.

Hmmm, while some 360s may be solid... I think the FACT that Microsoft openly admitted a huge percentage of these consoles will have this RROD issue, followed by writing off over 1 BILLION dollars to cover the costs of warranty repairs for all of these is not FUD. That's FACT.

[UlicBelouve]

Originally Posted by sj001

Hmmm, while some 360s may be solid... I think the FACT that Microsoft openly admitted a huge percentage of these consoles will have this RROD issue, followed by writing off over 1 BILLION dollars to cover the costs of warranty repairs for all of these is not FUD. That's FACT.

There's a difference between "huge percentage" and "all", I know that there is an admission of a large percentage, and funds used to fix it, but I'm frankly tired of the "You bought a 360? You know that it's going to brick, right?"

I also think the "huge percentage" is smaller than the "huge percentage" that HD-DVD has in sales/Nielson Stats (I doubt the 360 failure rate is above 35%). The only reason I call it FUD, is because the same flawed logic is being used to take facts and blow them out of proportion.

I find it amazing that if HD-DVD does this, we call it FUD, but if others use the same logic to bash the 360, we call it solid fact, irrefutable logic and irrepressible wit. You can't have it both ways, which is what works me up. It'd be like me going on and on about how all Warner Blu-Rays are steaming piles, because Warner openly admitted some problems were encountered. In both cases, we are making a logical fallacy by inferring a generalization from specific cases.

I won't discount the fact that some 360s have had the RRoD, but I won't tolerate people telling me that my 360 is going to brick any minute now without warning, implying that I made a foolish decision in buying it.

What applies to some does not apply to all.

[sj001]

Originally Posted by UlicBelouve

There's a difference between "huge percentage" and "all", I know that there is an admission of a large percentage, and funds used to fix it, but I'm frankly tired of the "You bought a 360? You know that it's going to brick, right?"

I also think the "huge percentage" is smaller than the "huge percentage" that HD-DVD has in sales/Nielson Stats (I doubt the 360 failure rate is above 35%). The only reason I call it FUD, is because the same flawed logic is being used to take facts and blow them out of proportion.

I find it amazing that if HD-DVD does this, we call it FUD, but if others use the same logic to bash the 360, we call it solid fact, irrefutable logic and irrepressible wit. You can't have it both ways, which is what works me up. It'd be like me going on and on about how all Warner Blu-Rays are steaming piles, because Warner openly admitted some problems were encountered. In both cases, we are making a logical fallacy by inferring a generalization from specific cases.

I won't discount the fact that some 360s have had the RRoD, but I won't tolerate people telling me that my 360 is going to brick any minute now without warning, implying that I made a foolish decision in buying it.

What applies to some does not apply to all.

Agreed, I wouldn't like it applied to me either if I bought one. I just feel bad for some of those who have had the RROD issue, sent it back, then got another, had the same issue, and on and on.

[TruBlu2]

Originally Posted by UlicBelouve

I'm going to throw in the same comments I almost always make:

I have one of the first generation XBOX 360s, bought on release day, it has travelled over 10,000 in the back of my car as I relocate or go to visit friends. I have played multiple 12-hour stretches on it. 2 years later, it works fine, no RRoD.

I am not concerned about the RRoD, it seems like the same category of FUD that we hate to hear. Yes, it happens, but I feel it is overblown. It's like saying EVERY copy of the Harry Potter box set will have an HD-DVD in it. It was a rarity, and will become less common over time. The drives, chipsets, and processors continue to be refined on the 360, so the specs will change and the system will get more stable. It seems the power cord is another change in the right direction, though, like I said, I have not had an issue with my first-gen one. I might seek an updated cord, though.

33% rate of RRoD is not overblown by any stretch of the imagination. MS isn't a hardware manufacturer, Sony is!! Sony failure rate for PS3 is 0.02%. MS and the RRoD is a disgrace to gamers and hardware manufacturers through out the world.

The 33% rate isn't advertised enough in my opinion.

Overblown?????

[MasterXeus]

Originally Posted by UlicBelouve

There's a difference between "huge percentage" and "all", I know that there is an admission of a large percentage, and funds used to fix it, but I'm frankly tired of the "You bought a 360? You know that it's going to brick, right?"

I also think the "huge percentage" is smaller than the "huge percentage" that HD-DVD has in sales/Nielson Stats (I doubt the 360 failure rate is above 35%). The only reason I call it FUD, is because the same flawed logic is being used to take facts and blow them out of proportion.

I find it amazing that if HD-DVD does this, we call it FUD, but if others use the same logic to bash the 360, we call it solid fact, irrefutable logic and irrepressible wit. You can't have it both ways, which is what works me up. It'd be like me going on and on about how all Warner Blu-Rays are steaming piles, because Warner openly admitted some problems were encountered. In both cases, we are making a logical fallacy by inferring a generalization from specific cases.

I won't discount the fact that some 360s have had the RRoD, but I won't tolerate people telling me that my 360 is going to brick any minute now without warning, implying that I made a foolish decision in buying it.

What applies to some does not apply to all.

+1

[Bigdog]

Originally Posted by UlicBelouve

I'm going to throw in the same comments I almost always make:

I have one of the first generation XBOX 360s, bought on release day, it has travelled over 10,000 in the back of my car as I relocate or go to visit friends. I have played multiple 12-hour stretches on it. 2 years later, it works fine, no RRoD.

I am not concerned about the RRoD, it seems like the same category of FUD that we hate to hear. Yes, it happens, but I feel it is overblown. It's like saying EVERY copy of the Harry Potter box set will have an HD-DVD in it. It was a rarity, and will become less common over time. The drives, chipsets, and processors continue to be refined on the 360, so the specs will change and the system will get more stable. It seems the power cord is another change in the right direction, though, like I said, I have not had an issue with my first-gen one. I might seek an updated cord, though.

Thats great but it is already widely know the multiple issues the 360 suffers from, not even the biggest 360 fanboy can hide from the fact they are not a reliable machine no matter how it has worked out for you, because it is proven to not work out so well for millions of others and the numbers prove so.

[MallardRider]

I'm 100% that the 360's power plug is grounded even on later model 360's. They would never be able to get the 360 past the eyes of the Consumer Products Safety Commission in the US without a grounded plug. It most likely might have a wider prong on the left and a narrower prong on the right so people won't plug into the outlet with wrong polarity causing...interesting problems.

By the way, the power supplies on the 360 have been known to get hot quite quickly in heavy gaming use. Not even the most die-hard of 360 fanboys would deny it.

[PeechCobblerPie]

my brother just got one for christmas. Man that brick is HUGE! So glad the PS3 doesn't have one. If you don't mind me asking, what the heck is it for?

I also noticed how loud the 360 is too. It's almost frustrating

[killerloon]

The Brick is a good thing. It keeps the system from getting hotter than it already does, un like the PS3 and its built in power supply thats why the Ps3 gets so damn hot, and as for The rrod I also have 1st gen and have had no probs with it as for my PS3 Im on my 2nd they keep over heating on me and the intercoolers are worthless.

[shido]

Originally Posted by DrinkMore

I have a simple question. My brother bought me an Xbox 360 Halo edition a day after they came out. Then he got one for himself because he liked it a lot! He already had the regular white version. My other brother also has the regular white version.

One thing I noticed is the plug on the 360 brick/power cord. There is NO GROUND! Why is there no ground on this thing? The older versions have a ground as confirmed by my brothers older 360's.

Why would they not include a ground?? It makes no sense. That and the fact that this plug is not really tight in the brick kinda pisses me off. Brand new and it's loose. Go figure.

Anyways, I was wondering if anyone else noticed this or just me?

I dunno why they changed it, but I noticed that too when I exchanged my first 360 at Bestbuy after it failed...