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Old 01-01-2008, 05:56 AM   #1
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Question Amazon's High-Def 101 Questioned

Amazon's High-Def 101 states the audio quality of HD is Dolby Digital Plus and Dolby Digital HD Mandatory and Blu-ray is Dolby Digital Plus and Dolby Digital HD Optional. Is this correct?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.htm...d_i=1000153511
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:06 AM   #2
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Amazon's High-Def 101 states the audio quality of HD is Dolby Digital Plus and Dolby Digital HD Mandatory and Blu-ray is Dolby Digital Plus and Dolby Digital HD Optional. Is this correct?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.htm...d_i=1000153511
Why does it seem more and more that amazon is pro HD DVD? I keep getting the HD DVD ad with all my amazon purchases and that chart is completely biased. It lists all the things that are the same and only the stuff HD DVD has better. Aside from the disc size Blu-ray isnt given one pro over HD DVD. I guess they forgot about the higher bit-rates and wider studio/manufacturer support.

Also, Dolby Digital HD is not mandatory for HD DVDs considering most HD DVDs have DVD audio. There are much more Blu-ray movies with HD sound than there are HD DVD movies (usually because the HD DVD doesnt have enough room).

Seriously though, is amazon being paid to do all this or is there webmeister an HD DVD fanboy?
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:10 AM   #3
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Why does it seem more and more that amazon is pro HD DVD? I keep getting the HD DVD ad with all my amazon purchases and that chart is completely biased. It lists all the things that are the same and only the stuff HD DVD has better. Aside from the disc size Blu-ray isnt given one pro over HD DVD. I guess they forgot about the higher bit-rates and wider studio/manufacturer support.

Also, Dolby Digital HD is not mandatory for HD DVDs considering most HD DVDs have DVD audio. There are much more Blu-ray movies with HD sound than there are HD DVD movies (usually because the HD DVD doesnt have enough room).

Seriously though, is amazon being paid to do all this or is there webmeister an HD DVD fanboy?

You need to look at the specs. This is not for a disc but for the format. And yes TrueHD is mandatory for HD DVD players to decode, but here is the catch that is only requires 2.0.

And what you keep getting with your orders is called an advertisment and HD DVD is spending money to send on to you on every order. So what you donot want Amazon to accept money from them?
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:17 AM   #4
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You need to look at the specs. This is not for a disc but for the format. And yes TrueHD is mandatory for HD DVD players to decode, but here is the catch that is only requires 2.0.

And what you keep getting with your orders is called an advertisment and HD DVD is spending money to send on to you on every order. So what you donot want Amazon to accept money from them?
Okay, so they are referring to the players themselves and not the discs. So all Blu-ray players are not required to decode TrueHD?
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:22 AM   #5
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Okay, so they are referring to the players themselves and not the discs. So all Blu-ray players are not required to decode TrueHD?
Correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc

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For audio, BD-ROM players are required to support Dolby Digital AC-3, DTS, and linear PCM. Players may optionally support Dolby Digital Plus, and lossless formats Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD. BD-ROM titles must use one of mandatory schemes for the primary soundtrack. A secondary audiotrack, if present, may use any of the mandatory or optional codecs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD

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All HD DVD players are required to decode linear (uncompressed) PCM, Dolby Digital AC-3, Dolby Digital EX, DTS, Dolby Digital Plus and Dolby TrueHD.[45] A secondary soundtrack, if present, can be stored in any of the aforementioned formats, or in one of the HD DVD optional codecs: DTS-HD High Resolution Audio and DTS-HD Master Audio.

But overall Blu-ray is taking HD DVD down on lossless titles.

http://www.blu-raystats.com/index.php
Blu-ray 62.75%

http://www.hddvdstats.com/index.php
HD DVD 22.82%
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Old 01-01-2008, 06:34 AM   #6
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It's interesting to me that for features like Internet connectivity, it is listed as mandatory for HD DVD and optional for Blu-ray. Yet when comparing resolution, it only states that both support 1080p, with no caveat that 1080p is standard in all Blu-ray players but supported in only some HD DVD players. It even lists features like the lack of region coding for HD DVD (why is Amazon encouraging shoppers to import discs), but doesn't mention Blu-ray's advantage in peak bitrates. Looks like something the HD DVD group wrote up and paid Amazon to put on their site. The acknowledgement that Blu-ray discs are higher capacity is probably there only to make it less obvious how biased the chart is.
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Why does it seem more and more that amazon is pro HD DVD?
I've noticed this too. Didn't Amazon sign that agreement with HD DVD regarding those indie titles a while back? I'm sure Toshiba/MS threw in some extra incentives since evidently that's the only way they can make deals.
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