Watching 'grainy' Pirates.... - Blu-ray Forum

garlad · 01-01-2008, 08:23 PM

Watching POTC at the mo, the first of the three, and amazing PQ it must be said. But did anyone else notice that the darker scenes are quite grainy?? To be honest, its quite noticable!!

JJ · 01-01-2008, 08:37 PM

What's your TV? And I noticed it too.

garlad · 01-01-2008, 08:41 PM

its a sony bravia 40" full hd 1080p..

i was a small bit disappointed.. thats sounds a bit greedy maybe, but after reading all the reviews on the movie section of this site i didnt expect there to be a hint of grain!! day light scenes are amazing, but let down slightly by the darker scenes. are we expecting too much???

JJ · 01-01-2008, 08:44 PM

It's just that movie - they are fantastic in Pirates 2 and 3.

But, they are grainy early in PotC one, especially when the Pearl first approaches the harbor.

xtop · 01-01-2008, 08:45 PM

i didn't notice. but couldn't it be your tv? or is this a well known problem?

clyon · 01-01-2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by garlad

its a sony bravia 40" full hd 1080p..

i was a small bit disappointed.. thats sounds a bit greedy maybe, but after reading all the reviews on the movie section of this site i didnt expect there to be a hint of grain!! day light scenes are amazing, but let down slightly by the darker scenes. are we expecting too much???

got to be a setting on your tv, I watched 1 & 2 last week & there was ZERO grian on #2, #1 there is one night shoot that last about 5 sec that has some Very minor grain.

SpartanJohnson · 01-01-2008, 08:47 PM

the movie is like that to begin with, your not having problems LOL. Its not that bad though.

garlad · 01-01-2008, 08:50 PM

yeah ok, maybe im making a big deal over nothing!!

pirates 2 is being shipped to me at the mo so il see how that one looks

SpartanJohnson · 01-01-2008, 08:52 PM

yeah grain isn't always bad. I think it adds to the movie in this case, there isnt much though.

yellowblanket · 01-01-2008, 09:26 PM

...yikes you complain about that ity bity grain now, wait til you see the movie 300!
it's like a grain festival!

Dust · 01-02-2008, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by yellowblanket

...yikes you complain about that ity bity grain now, wait til you see the movie 300!
it's like a grain festival!

Just got done watching 300 and you are correct. However, it is still a total dude movie (i.e. Boobs & Blood).

JasonR · 01-02-2008, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by garlad

its a sony bravia 40" full hd 1080p..

i was a small bit disappointed.. thats sounds a bit greedy maybe, but after reading all the reviews on the movie section of this site i didnt expect there to be a hint of grain!! day light scenes are amazing, but let down slightly by the darker scenes. are we expecting too much???

I have the same TV, if you are watching it in vivid....don't

This is the setting where they jack all the settings up to max. It is in this mode by default.

sj001 · 01-02-2008, 03:53 AM

Make sure you have your sharpness level turned down too, a lot of people jack that way up, and that just increases the amount of grain on the screen that you will see. Try experimenting with that.

DeeChizzle · 01-02-2008, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sj001

Make sure you have your sharpness level turned down too, a lot of people jack that way up, and that just increases the amount of grain on the screen that you will see. Try experimenting with that.

+1 Don't abuse the sharpness

statikcat · 01-02-2008, 05:24 AM

Yeah most tvs come out of the box with medium or high sharpness. It looks like shit. If your sharpness is on a scale of 1-10 it shouldn't be over 3. If it has been up high .. turn it down and give you eyes a few to adjust. It will look a lot better.

ResOGlas · 01-02-2008, 08:38 AM

POC was shot on film, deal with it, or buy 80 copies of Crank and be happy.

No offense, but only noobs that haven't calibrated their display complain about grain. Calibration is your friend, don't adjust your TV "by eye". Artificial edge enhancement caused by sharpness settings on your display and lame DNR make Blu-ray look bad.

Turn your sharpness to "0" and set DNR to off.

benes · 01-02-2008, 09:20 AM

Film has grain. Its not a defect. People need to understand this. When you try to remove grain you end up with wax faces and loss of all fine detail like most Warner titles. That is NOT what we want.

sean10mm · 01-02-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by benes

Film has grain. Its not a defect.

Exactly. Anything shot on film is going to have grain, and unlike dirt and scratches you can't remove it without destroying the image detail because the grains are what the image itself is made of on the film. You might as well try to remove brush strokes from a painting to make it look "real" - the only way to do it would be to remove paint, which degrades the image. Doing it digitally produces bizarre results.

All the Pirates movies were shot on Super 35mm, by the way.

garlad · 01-02-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ResOGlas

POC was shot on film, deal with it, or buy 80 copies of Crank and be happy.

No offense, but only noobs that haven't calibrated their display complain about grain. Calibration is your friend, don't adjust your TV "by eye". Artificial edge enhancement caused by sharpness settings on your display and lame DNR make Blu-ray look bad.

Turn your sharpness to "0" and set DNR to off.

Relax mate, i was just asking a question. Sorry im not a blu expert.. Cheers for the tip, will try calibratiing the display.

tntkain · 01-02-2008, 07:56 PM

I think the quality is amazing, I have never noticed grain.

01-02-2008, 08:38 AM	#16
ResOGlas Active Member Member since:Jul 2007	POC was shot on film, deal with it, or buy 80 copies of Crank and be happy. No offense, but only noobs that haven't calibrated their display complain about grain. Calibration is your friend, don't adjust your TV "by eye". Artificial edge enhancement caused by sharpness settings on your display and lame DNR make Blu-ray look bad. Turn your sharpness to "0" and set DNR to off. Last edited by ResOGlas; 01-02-2008 at 08:46 AM.

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01-01-2008, 08:23 PM	#1
garlad AVFC Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Ireland Blu-ray collection:226 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:3	Watching 'grainy' Pirates.... Watching POTC at the mo, the first of the three, and amazing PQ it must be said. But did anyone else notice that the darker scenes are quite grainy?? To be honest, its quite noticable!!

01-01-2008, 08:37 PM	#2
JJ Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Miami, FL Home Theater Gallery:99 4K collection:619 Blu-ray collection:1293 DVD collection:31 Digital collection:5 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:203	What's your TV? And I noticed it too.

01-01-2008, 08:41 PM	#3
garlad AVFC Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Ireland Blu-ray collection:226 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:3	its a sony bravia 40" full hd 1080p.. i was a small bit disappointed.. thats sounds a bit greedy maybe, but after reading all the reviews on the movie section of this site i didnt expect there to be a hint of grain!! day light scenes are amazing, but let down slightly by the darker scenes. are we expecting too much???

01-01-2008, 08:44 PM	#4
JJ Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Miami, FL Home Theater Gallery:99 4K collection:619 Blu-ray collection:1293 DVD collection:31 Digital collection:5 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:203	It's just that movie - they are fantastic in Pirates 2 and 3. But, they are grainy early in PotC one, especially when the Pearl first approaches the harbor.

01-01-2008, 08:45 PM	#5
xtop Blu-ray Count Member since:Oct 2007 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- Trading Score:3	i didn't notice. but couldn't it be your tv? or is this a well known problem?

01-01-2008, 08:47 PM	#7
SpartanJohnson Banned Member since:Dec 2007	the movie is like that to begin with, your not having problems LOL. Its not that bad though.

01-01-2008, 08:50 PM	#8
garlad AVFC Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Ireland Blu-ray collection:226 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:3	yeah ok, maybe im making a big deal over nothing!! pirates 2 is being shipped to me at the mo so il see how that one looks

01-01-2008, 08:52 PM	#9
SpartanJohnson Banned Member since:Dec 2007	yeah grain isn't always bad. I think it adds to the movie in this case, there isnt much though.

01-01-2008, 09:26 PM	#10
yellowblanket Senior Member Member since:Oct 2007 Home Theater Gallery:9 Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:1	...yikes you complain about that ity bity grain now, wait til you see the movie 300! it's like a grain festival!

01-02-2008, 03:53 AM	#13
sj001 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Rochester, NY Blu-ray collection:317 DVD collection:17 Trading Score:5	Make sure you have your sharpness level turned down too, a lot of people jack that way up, and that just increases the amount of grain on the screen that you will see. Try experimenting with that.

01-02-2008, 05:24 AM	#15
statikcat Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Washington, DC Blu-ray collection:67	Yeah most tvs come out of the box with medium or high sharpness. It looks like shit. If your sharpness is on a scale of 1-10 it shouldn't be over 3. If it has been up high .. turn it down and give you eyes a few to adjust. It will look a lot better.

01-02-2008, 09:20 AM	#17
benes Member Member since:Nov 2006	Film has grain. Its not a defect. People need to understand this. When you try to remove grain you end up with wax faces and loss of all fine detail like most Warner titles. That is NOT what we want.

01-02-2008, 07:56 PM	#20
tntkain Senior Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:103 Blu-ray reviews: 2	I think the quality is amazing, I have never noticed grain.

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