Should the BDA extend the olive branch to HD DVD at CES?

[stockstar1138]

What do you guys think? do you think the bda when it goes to gives its conference should basically say, it was a good game, its over, lets do what is best for the consumer and agree on one format, blu-ray. don't look like a fool and die a slow death as retailers and consumers suffocate your format. just say, hey, we decided that one format was best and here it is folks.

its kind of like the whole thing when somebody gets fired, the company will let them "resign" instead to save face,

if you do think the bda does this, what do you think HD DVD's reactin will be.

[mystiksuicide]

To some I say yes David Vaughn has tried to make peace and now endorses blu. But to the others "not a chance in hell" this is the time to kick them when they are down and mock them for being cheap and making not only the wrong choice but the stupid one.

[rwduke]

No. HD-DVD companies and supporters have been unbearably smug and obnoxious. They are the ones who consistently defied logic and common sense to suit their alternate reality. I say let them awaken with smelling salts or a cold splash of water.

[JAGUAR1977]

Yes, time to end it completely.

I wouldn't be suprised if Paramount and Uni walk out on stage with the BDA!

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by mystiksuicide

To some I say yes David Vaughn has tried to make peace and now endorses blu. But to the others "not a chance in hell" this is the time to kick them when they are down and mock them for being cheap and making not only the wrong choice but the stupid one.

im not saying make peace with the internet fudsters. im saying at their conferenrce, get up and say something like, "in light of recent events, we would love to have toshba, microsoft, universal and paramount in our bda family. They are wonerful companies with wonderful people. One thing both formats agree on is they want to do what is best for the consumer. We feel a one format solution is the best thing our industry can offer this industry right now, so if they would like to join the bda they are more than welcome."

This way they don't lose the war, they are just doing whats best for consumers. most people will never even know what hd dvd was and how bad these companies f'd up if they do it this way. othewise, hd dvd is going to go down lookign bad,

[CptGreedle]

I do not care what the HD DVD camp has done in the past. As far as the companies go, they should get all the help they can to join Blu-ray.
Personally I will not forgive individuals (like the Universal CEO) without an apology. However this war should not be about HD DVD and Blu-ray. DVD is now the biggest obstacle from a successful HD format.
All studios and companies ned to JOIN or DIE! Only one format can win, and that IS Blu-ray, and we need everyone under it! Forget the past people.
We need to beat out the confusion about HD, we need to bring more ppl into HDM, we need to convince people DVDs are "good enough".
The only way is to be united to begin with. So far we have failed at this, but this year could be the year that HDM will FINALLY be able to fight back at DVD!

[Bullseye]

I think the BDA should approach Toshiba asap and do a deal to get this over now and allow Universal and Paramount release films immediately.

[JohnGalt]

It's too early for that. For now the BDA's mission should be to shovel as much dirt on HD-DVD's grave as possible and to do it as quickly as possible. Only after a complete, total, and crushing victory should any serious reconcilliation be discussed ... if indeed there's anything to discuss at all.

[ResOGlas]

Originally Posted by JohnGalt

It's too early for that. For now the BDA's mission should be to shovel as much dirt on HD-DVD's grave as possible and to do it as quickly as possible. Only after a complete, total, and crushing victory should any serious reconcilliation be discussed ... if indeed there's anything to discuss at all.

+1

[irfoton]

Should they? I think that is a given no matter how we vote. People are missing the point. HD movies on optical disc is not a foregone conclusion, even with a single format. The whole industry needs to get behind it so that a smooth transition can be completed from DVD to BR quickly. HDM on optical disc will last for only a short period of time (10-15 years at most) before online infrastructure catches up. To entice Toshiba away from it's DVD cash cow, the BDA will need to make concessions. Toshiba can still make it ugly for BR.

Edit: CptGreedle posted while I was writing. He's got the point!!!!

[mystiksuicide]

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

im not saying make peace with the internet fudsters. im saying at their conferenrce, get up and say something like, "in light of recent events, we would love to have toshba, microsoft, universal and paramount in our bda family. They are wonerful companies with wonderful people. One thing both formats agree on is they want to do what is best for the consumer. We feel a one format solution is the best thing our industry can offer this industry right now, so if they would like to join the bda they are more than welcome."

This way they don't lose the war, they are just doing whats best for consumers. most people will never even know what hd dvd was and how bad these companies f'd up if they do it this way. othewise, hd dvd is going to go down lookign bad,

Ok I am all for that with the exception of M$. I don't trust that flawed company at all. Sooner or later they will screw blu-ray to the ground just like thy did Toshiba. Let's not forget that wormy piece crap only wants digital downloads and for hard disc companies to fail.

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

I think the BDA should approach Toshiba asap and do a deal to get this over now and allow Universal and Paramount release films immediately.

yep, i can't agree more. toshiba can save money, save face, and litterly become a prodigal son (remember they were almost with blu-ray in the beginning before ms got them to do otherwise) if they join the bda.

chances are not as many heads will roll at toshiba over this too. they can say, we tired many things, nothing work, we did the smart business thing \, evaluated the situation, risk was higher than reward and we termiated the project.

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by mystiksuicide

Ok I am all for that with the exception of M$. I don't trust that flawed company at all. Sooner or later they will screw blu-ray to the ground just like thy did Toshiba. Let's not forget that wormy piece crap only wants digital downloads and for hard disc companies to fail.

yeah, i see your point. however, if the bda was willing to lscense blu-ray add ons for the 360 for cheap, both sides would benefit greatly.

i also have to admit i was an xbox fanboy last gen. i thought it was vastly supeior to the ps2, so there is a little special place for ms in my heart.

i have really grown disgusted with them lately, but new men in charge (bye bye amir) can mean a new change in the way things are handled. god knows if we did not forgive or forget for companies wrongdoings, we'd all be hypocrits or sony haters on this forum.

[JohnGalt]

Universal and Paramount very likely already have at least contingency plans to abandon HD-DVD when they feel the time is proper. Clearly they should be courted by the BDA but Toshiba? What's the point? They'll push their format so long as there's a single major studio releasing in it, simply deprive them of content and they'll go away.

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by JohnGalt

Universal and Paramount very likely already have at least contingency plans to abandon HD-DVD when they feel the time is proper. Clearly they should be courted by the BDA but Toshiba? What's the point? They'll push their format so long as there's a single major studio releasing in it, simply deprive them of content and they'll go away.

what makes you think they wil be that stubbon about it. yeah, they hae been stubborn in the past, but they actually had a shot at winning, now they don't/

[Denzelio]

Finish them off

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

What do you guys think? do you think the bda when it goes to gives its conference should basically say, it was a good game, its over, lets do what is best for the consumer and agree on one format, blu-ray. don't look like a fool and die a slow death as retailers and consumers suffocate your format. just say, hey, we decided that one format was best and here it is folks.

its kind of like the whole thing when somebody gets fired, the company will let them "resign" instead to save face,

if you do think the bda does this, what do you think HD DVD's reactin will be.

I like the Universal prediction in your sig. The HD DVD Promotional Group will be disolving on its own. The BDA should do everything it can to create alliances with member of said group in order to expedite the process. Universal first!

[toocheezy]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

I think the BDA should approach Toshiba asap and do a deal to get this over now and allow Universal and Paramount release films immediately.

I couldnt agree more. This will be the best thing to be done. If it were to happen Tosh would be stupid to not take whatever deal the BDA comes up with.

And think about it, if Tosh didnt take the deal, then the BDA can say to the news that a deal was set in place to end this format war but Tosh decided to prolong the war. So Tosh will look like idiots in the media. its a win win situation.

[ezcobar411]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

I think the BDA should approach Toshiba asap and do a deal to get this over now and allow Universal and Paramount release films immediately.

This is a great idea

[clownface]

We are the better format so we should be the better ambassadors, we shouldn't gloat like the HD DVD crowd did when Paramount shunned us. We are better than that.