42" Pioneer Kuro in 720p. I really really want this TV, BUT... - Blu-ray Forum

johnnierocco · 01-23-2008, 01:31 PM

Its not 1080p.

They have a 1080P in 50" I believe but I just cant afford $5K on a TV. Well on anything right now, I have a baby on that way. But I could do $2K with my tax return coming. Now I have read that there isnt any difference with a TV of this quality doing 720p vs 1080p under 50" screen sizes. I have also read that a Pionner/Samsing/Panny 720p will look way better than some lower end TV that is 1080p because resolution is not the be all end all of picture quality. Knowing all this I still am on the fence about buying the Kuro in 720p. Is it ME?

I just feel like Im cheating myself out of some of my BluRay goodness.

Is that the case here or would a TV of that quality and of 42" look amazing no matter what? It looked breathtakingly beautiful in Best Buy. I couldnt believe it was 720p but for the price I kind of thought it might be.

richteer · 01-23-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnierocco

Its not 1080p.

They have a 1080P in 50" I believe but I just cant afford $5K on a TV. Well on anything right now, I have a baby on that way. But I could do $2K with my tax return coming. Now I have read that there isnt any difference with a TV of this quality doing 720p vs 1080p under 50" screen sizes. I have also read that a Pionner/Samsing/Panny 720p will look way better than some lower end TV that is 1080p because resolution is not the be all end all of picture quality. Knowing all this I still am on the fence about buying the Kuro in 720p. Is it ME?

Not just you. I'm trying to convince my wife that we need a 60" Pioneer (the 6010FD)... (I'd go for the Pioneer Elite, but with the Extreme Contrast Kuros only a year or so away, I'll go for the cheaper option for now.)

BLU STEAL · 01-23-2008, 05:11 PM

the 720p pioneer was just tested against 6 1080p tvs including a 1080p panny in this months issue of home theater magazine. The pioneer was the hands down victor

johnnierocco · 01-23-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BLU STEAL

the 720p pioneer was just tested against 6 1080p tvs including a 1080p panny in this months issue of home theater magazine. The pioneer was the hands down victor

That settles it then!

I really love that TV and it unreal how natural and clear things look on it. Its like looking out a window. A very clean and clear window too! Thanks for the input.

werewuf · 01-23-2008, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnierocco

That settles it then!

I really love that TV and it unreal how natural and clear things look on it. Its like looking out a window. A very clean and clear window too! Thanks for the input.

I have the Elite version, the Pro-950HD and the Home Theater Mag review confirmed what I had believed for awhile: that the 720p (actually 768p) Pioneers have a superior video payback than most 1080p tv's out there. I absolutely love this panel and blu-rays look unbelievable on it!

love blu or go home! · 01-23-2008, 07:02 PM

I have the Pioneer PDP-6010FD 60" 1080P plasma and I paid $4,500 not sure where you saw a 50" for 5,000. You like the Pioneer PDP-5010FD? You can get it for about $3,200 here in the city. I've seen the 42" and at that size I don't think you would be able to see a difference if they made a 1080P model. But remember don't buy Pioneer online, they only have a warranty if purchased from a local store.

bootman · 01-23-2008, 07:14 PM

It really comes down to how far will you sit from it.
Look at my sig for a link.

spark001 · 01-23-2008, 07:16 PM

I have a 2 year-old 50" PDP-1130HD Elite, which is 720p (768 res), and the picture looks better than many 1080p sets I've seen out there. Bottom line: let your eyes guide you in your decision - the numbers (720p, 1080p) aren't everything.

richteer · 01-23-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by richteer

Not just you. I'm trying to convince my wife that we need a 60" Pioneer (the 6010FD)... (I'd go for the Pioneer Elite, but with the Extreme Contrast Kuros only a year or so away, I'll go for the cheaper option for now.)

I know that quoting myself is bad form, but I've just re-read the extreme contrast thread. The über-Kuros are probably 2 or 3 years away, so I'm beginning to wonder if I should save up the extra shekels for the 60" Pioneer Elite PRO-150FD (or whatever has replaced it one said shekels have been saved up!). Hmm, decisions, decisions...

Mensrea69 · 01-24-2008, 12:14 AM

Hey- johnnierocco

Check out this for $2k and 50' and1080p

http://dealsouthonline.com/Product.asp?Prodid=262

Brain Sturgeon · 01-24-2008, 12:26 AM

I have the Elite Kuro 42" in our Hearth room and it has a spectacular picture. I compared it to similarly sized 1080p XBR(3,4,5) LCD sets from Sony and preferred the Kuro. The Sonys were a bit sharper, but I preferred the blacks, colors, and motion on the Kuro. Let your eyes decide, but I don't think you can go wrong with this set.

JohnGalt · 01-24-2008, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by love blu or go home!

But remember don't buy Pioneer online, they only have a warranty if purchased from a local store.

Not true at all. Pioneer has a number of authorized Internet dealers.

bkbluray · 01-24-2008, 12:44 AM

My dad has the 720p 42" Pioneer - an excellent, excellent TV. The picture is so crystal clear, I don't know if you'd be able to tell much of a difference between 1080i and p.

btf1980 · 01-24-2008, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mensrea69

Hey- johnnierocco

Check out this for $2k and 50' and1080p

http://dealsouthonline.com/Product.asp?Prodid=262

They are not an authorized Pioneer dealer. Buy from them at your own risk.

Beefbowl · 01-24-2008, 02:15 AM

How much is the 720p 42" kuro going for? I was looking at the panny 42" that was 1080p and was rated the best tv for that size.

Papi4baby · 01-24-2008, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mensrea69

Hey- johnnierocco

Check out this for $2k and 50' and1080p

http://dealsouthonline.com/Product.asp?Prodid=262

It says $2800 plus.

Johk · 01-31-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by love blu or go home!

I have the Pioneer PDP-6010FD 60" 1080P plasma and I paid $4,500

Nice TV!

Here in Canada the 6010 sells for 7999$! Right now it's on sale at 5999$

. I saw it with a samsung bd player playing the Prestige and it looked fantastic! All the other tvs had a poor "HD" feed loop.

Most probably I'm gonna go with the 50 inch model... But I think I'm gonna wait until the 9g models are released (anyone has an idea when then usually ship to retailers?). Right now the 50inch (5010) is on sale at 3999$ (usually 4999$)... Looks like I might have to cross the border to get a decent price!

JJ · 01-31-2008, 06:29 PM

I'm drooling over the 5080 at the moment. Just need $600 to pick it up if I return my current TV.

slick one · 02-02-2008, 02:56 PM

I have one now for a few days....
cannot wait for this weekends sports viewing!!!

Have watched Casino Royale and We were soldiers and really enjoyed the pq.

Yeah the blacks are great!!

Hope you can get one for the Super Bowl.
Good luck!!!!!!

crackinhedz · 02-02-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by slick one

I have one now for a few days....
cannot wait for this weekends sports viewing!!!

Have watched Casino Royale and We were soldiers and really enjoyed the pq.

Yeah the blacks are great!!

Hope you can get one for the Super Bowl.
Good luck!!!!!!

well aren't you gonna post some pics in the Home Theater Pic thread???

01-23-2008, 01:31 PM	#1
johnnierocco Junior Member Member since:Jan 2008	42" Pioneer Kuro in 720p. I really really want this TV, BUT... Its not 1080p. They have a 1080P in 50" I believe but I just cant afford $5K on a TV. Well on anything right now, I have a baby on that way. But I could do $2K with my tax return coming. Now I have read that there isnt any difference with a TV of this quality doing 720p vs 1080p under 50" screen sizes. I have also read that a Pionner/Samsing/Panny 720p will look way better than some lower end TV that is 1080p because resolution is not the be all end all of picture quality. Knowing all this I still am on the fence about buying the Kuro in 720p. Is it ME? I just feel like Im cheating myself out of some of my BluRay goodness. Is that the case here or would a TV of that quality and of 42" look amazing no matter what? It looked breathtakingly beautiful in Best Buy. I couldnt believe it was 720p but for the price I kind of thought it might be.

02-02-2008, 02:56 PM	#19
slick one Member Member since:Dec 2007	pioneer 5080 I have one now for a few days.... cannot wait for this weekends sports viewing!!! Have watched Casino Royale and We were soldiers and really enjoyed the pq. Yeah the blacks are great!! Hope you can get one for the Super Bowl. Good luck!!!!!!

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01-23-2008, 05:11 PM	#3
BLU STEAL Active Member Member since:Oct 2007	the 720p pioneer was just tested against 6 1080p tvs including a 1080p panny in this months issue of home theater magazine. The pioneer was the hands down victor

01-23-2008, 07:02 PM	#6
love blu or go home! Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:NYC, New York Trading Score:3	I have the Pioneer PDP-6010FD 60" 1080P plasma and I paid $4,500 not sure where you saw a 50" for 5,000. You like the Pioneer PDP-5010FD? You can get it for about $3,200 here in the city. I've seen the 42" and at that size I don't think you would be able to see a difference if they made a 1080P model. But remember don't buy Pioneer online, they only have a warranty if purchased from a local store.

01-23-2008, 07:14 PM	#7
bootman Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:The Burghs	It really comes down to how far will you sit from it. Look at my sig for a link.

01-23-2008, 07:16 PM	#8
spark001 Junior Member Member since:Jan 2008	I have a 2 year-old 50" PDP-1130HD Elite, which is 720p (768 res), and the picture looks better than many 1080p sets I've seen out there. Bottom line: let your eyes guide you in your decision - the numbers (720p, 1080p) aren't everything.

01-24-2008, 12:14 AM	#10
Mensrea69 Member Member since:Oct 2007	Hey- johnnierocco Check out this for $2k and 50' and1080p http://dealsouthonline.com/Product.asp?Prodid=262

01-24-2008, 12:26 AM	#11
Brain Sturgeon Expert Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Sep 2007 Home Theater Gallery:39	I have the Elite Kuro 42" in our Hearth room and it has a spectacular picture. I compared it to similarly sized 1080p XBR(3,4,5) LCD sets from Sony and preferred the Kuro. The Sonys were a bit sharper, but I preferred the blacks, colors, and motion on the Kuro. Let your eyes decide, but I don't think you can go wrong with this set.

01-24-2008, 12:44 AM	#13
bkbluray Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:MN Home Theater Gallery:57 Blu-ray collection:185 Blu-ray reviews:25	My dad has the 720p 42" Pioneer - an excellent, excellent TV. The picture is so crystal clear, I don't know if you'd be able to tell much of a difference between 1080i and p.

01-24-2008, 02:15 AM	#15
Beefbowl Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Guam Home Theater Gallery:20 Blu-ray collection:749 Trading Score:20	How much is the 720p 42" kuro going for? I was looking at the panny 42" that was 1080p and was rated the best tv for that size.

01-31-2008, 06:29 PM	#18
JJ Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Miami, FL Home Theater Gallery:99 4K collection:619 Blu-ray collection:1293 DVD collection:31 Digital collection:5 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:203	I'm drooling over the 5080 at the moment. Just need $600 to pick it up if I return my current TV.

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