Greatest comeback kid of 2000 - Sony

[Apocollypse]

wow

prior to 2006 before the console war and the format war began...

1) Sony was doing so poorly .. there electronics division ( tv, audio, walkmans, even dvd players ).

2) Sony Online Entertainment - well .. was bad and got worse

then with the with the coming of the console war

3)the PS3 had such a bad launch... i mean really bad

then the format war...

4) came after HD-DVD and was priced way higher.

Then...

With the help of Warner and the marketing magic of the new CEO of Sony America ( hint..he's not Japanese ).

They are about to win the format war. due to Marketing and pulling Warner to there side last minute before CES.

the prices of the ps3 have come down to a point anybody can buy them now. again both marketing the ps3 as a blue ray player and also all the great games coming out for the console this year and going forward.

because of these things there electronics department doing better and better ( well they where doing better in 2007 on there own anyway ). And appears to look like this will also trickle down to there other divisions...

I vote Sony as the greatest come back kid of 2000.

[bageleaterkkjji]

i vote toshiba

[Apocollypse]

ya...toshiba....they make standard dvd players right?

[Hassoon]

Originally Posted by Apocollypse

I vote Sony as the greatest come back kid of 2000.

[bageleaterkkjji]

Originally Posted by Apocollypse

ya...toshiba....they make standard dvd players right?

and sweet emblems i think ill put this on my enzo

[NARMAK]

I think toshiba will have a mountain to climb back after all the $ they wasted on the dud, Oh wait, didn't M$ pay for everything in bribes

I think Toshiba should use this as a learning experience, Sony though have picked up a lot as a company now, they're LCD & games division is doing well now

Looking further to the future, Sony is pathing the future to better TV by being the first & quickest company to try & unleash the uber OLED upon us, i know $2500 for a 11" screen ain't good but imagine a 30"+ OLED available in bout 2010 for about the same price, after all, the longer they produce, the less the cost becomes

[Grubert]

http://www.iii.co.uk/news/?type=afxn...action=article

Sony and Matsushita (Panasonic) are expected to report double-digit quarterly profit growth; Toshiba, under 3%.

TOKYO (Thomson Financial) - Japanese electronics makers are this week expected to report higher third-quarter earnings on brisk overseas demand for consumer goods including computers, cameras and video games, analysts said.

The market, hit by global turmoil on worries over the US economy, will be closely watching the returns for signs on the outlook for Japan, whose prolonged recovery from recession in the 1990s has been driven by exports.

Leading electronics and high-tech companies are due to release October-December earnings this week including Canon, Fujitsu, Matsushita, NEC, Sharp, Sony and Toshiba.

Sony Corp, often seen as a bellwether for corporate Japan, is expected to report Thursday its operating profit for the fiscal third quarter rose 17.4 percent year-on-year to 210 billion yen, analysts predict.

The company that created the Walkman has been recovering from a soft patch after undergoing a painful restructuring drive as it lost out to competitors, such as Apple Inc and its phenomenally successful iPod.

"Sales of digital cameras and camcorders continue to exceed the company's plan," said Yuji Fujimori, an electronics analyst at Goldman Sachs.

Key to the turnaround, analysts expect Sony to report brisk sales of its flat-panel LCD Bravia televisions. The segment incurred loss in the second quarter as LCD TV prices fell and Sony's spring lineup failed to excite.

Sony's gaming unit is also expected to improve amid a face-off with rivals Nintendo and Microsoft due to price cuts of its PlayStation 3 and structural reform of the business, analysts said.

"As the strenuous cost cuts are beginning to bear fruit, Sony might have posted a profit in the game business in the October-December quarter for almost the first time in two years," said Nomura Securities analyst Eiichi Katayama.

Nintendo's Wii, which features an innovative motion-sensitive controller and is aimed at a more general audience, outsold the PlayStation 3 three-fold in Japan last year.

Matsushita Electric Industrial Co Ltd, best known for its Panasonic brand, is also expected to report higher operating profits on robust overseas demand for its digital cameras and plasma televisions, analysts said.

The average analyst forecast is for Matsushita's operating profit to rise 12.4 percent to 152.6 billion yen.

"Since the launch of its high-definition compatible new plasma display panel televisions last July, sales have continued to pick up across the world, which together with the brisk sales of its digital cameras, boosted profit growth," said Mitsuhiro Osawa, an analyst at Mizuho Investor Securities.

Analysts said Matsushita's business performance was to be supported after it cut its stake in struggling consumer electronics maker Victor Co of Japan (JVC).

However, Toshiba Corp, which has reported soaring profits in recent years but has been hit by setbacks to its next-generation DVD format, HD-DVD, is expected to say its earnings were just slightly up.

Japanese consumers and a number of Hollywood heavyweights including Warner Bros have snubbed HD-DVD in favor of Blu-ray, the rival next-generation format backed by Sony and Matsushita.

Analysts predict Toshiba will report operating profit of 57.5 billion yen for the third fiscal quarter, compared with 55.9 billion a year earlier.

Toshiba is also seen suffering from declining prices of flash memory chips, which are used in iPods and other digital consumer products.

"Given the decline in flash memory chips and an expanded loss in its DVD business, Toshiba may have to revise down its full-year profit forecast," said Goldman Sachs analyst Ikuo Matsuhashi.

(1 US dollar = 107.19 yen)

[Grisle]

The Playstation brand hasn't let me down...and the PS3 is my favorite!

[vladittude0583]

Originally Posted by Apocollypse

wow

prior to 2006 before the console war and the format war began...

1) Sony was doing so poorly .. there electronics division ( tv, audio, walkmans, even dvd players ).

2) Sony Online Entertainment - well .. was bad and got worse

then with the with the coming of the console war

3)the PS3 had such a bad launch... i mean really bad

then the format war...

4) came after HD-DVD and was priced way higher.

Then...

With the help of Warner and the marketing magic of the new CEO of Sony America ( hint..he's not Japanese ).

They are about to win the format war. due to Marketing and pulling Warner to there side last minute before CES.

the prices of the ps3 have come down to a point anybody can buy them now. again both marketing the ps3 as a blue ray player and also all the great games coming out for the console this year and going forward.

because of these things there electronics department doing better and better ( well they where doing better in 2007 on there own anyway ). And appears to look like this will also trickle down to there other divisions...

I vote Sony as the greatest come back kid of 2000.

I could not agree with you more!

[getblu]

2008 is turning out to be a great year for Sony.

They also must be happy with the fact that the iPhone won't be as big as it was supposed to be.

[Living Near Shamu]

I've always liked Sony products, and they've never let me down before. PS3 Rocks!

[Xerious]

sony FTW.

[Apocollypse]

Originally Posted by Living Near Shamu

I've always liked Sony products, and they've never let me down before. PS3 Rocks!

same here with the exception of maybe there computeer viao's ( they look cool thou ).
everything else they make kicks a$$

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Based on the success that they are now having, you are declaring them the comeback kid of 8 years ago?

[Apocollypse]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

Based on the success that they are now having, you are declaring them the comeback kid of 8 years ago?

In regards to the company as a whole ..yes

thats quite an accomplishment don't ya think.

[Dynamo of Eternia]

I guess, if you want to count things people do today as accomplishments in the past.

That's like awarding someone who does well at the next summer olympics an award from the 1996 summer olympics in Atlanta, GA.

[Apocollypse]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

I guess, if you want to count things people do today as accomplishments in the past.

That's like awarding someone who does well at the next summer olympics an award from the 1996 summer olympics in Atlanta, GA.

huh?

My point was the sales with the exception of the ps2 or gaming division was doing poorly early 2000 to 2006. As of 2008 they have turned the company around or coming close to turning major profits in most of their divisions.

My topic is about the decade of 2000 and that sony has made arguably one of the greatest turn arounds this decade.

I suggest you re-read my topic and the thread.

[Iceman_II]

Originally Posted by Living Near Shamu

I've always liked Sony products, and they've never let me down before. PS3 Rocks!

All but their audio line...

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by Apocollypse

huh?

My point was the sales with the exception of the ps2 or gaming division was doing poorly early 2000 to 2006. As of 2008 they have turned the company around or coming close to turning major profits in most of their divisions.

My topic is about the decade of 2000 and that sony has made arguably one of the greatest turn arounds this decade.

I suggest you re-read my topic and the thread.

I took your suggestion, I reread it, and it still comes across the same.

You refer to Sony as the "comeback kid of 2000". At no point do you specify that you meant the decade as a whole in that statement. It reads as if you mean the year 2000. It would be more accurate to say "Sony is the comeback kid of the 2000s". (the addition of "the" and the 's' at the end of 2000 being very key here).

If we were discussing a similar event happening during the previous decade, then saying it the way you did you translate to "comeback kid of 1990" rather than the more accurate "comeback kid of the 90s".

Sorry if it seems picky, but it just doesn't sound right the way you are saying it, and I was thrown off by that as it wasn't making sense originally.

[whoelse]

Toshiba have been good up to now. Now its the beginning of the decent.