52W3000 ISF Calibration Complete

[mdm1699]

Originally Posted by ShawnE94SL

I also posted this on AVS:


EDIT: I've added the calibration reports showing D65


I had my 52W3000 ISF calibrated this morning by Spencer Sight and Sound in Telford, PA. Overall I am happy with the final settings. Was it worth the $350.00, I'm on the fence about that. Black levels and color were improved the most. I was a little concerned on some of the settings the tech choose, but over all the picture is really clean.

Here are the settings he used after calibration:

HDMI

Picture-Custom
BackLight-8
Picture-87
Brightness-50
Color-61
HUe-R1
Color Temp-Neutral
Sharpness-33
Noise Reduction-Off
MPEG NR-Off

Advance Settings
Black Corrector-Off
Advance CE-Off
Gamma-Off
Clear White-Off
Color Space-Wide
Live Color-Off
Detail Enhancer-Low
Edge Enhancer-Off

White Balance
RGain 0
GGain 0
BGain -6
RBias 10
GBias 2
BBias -10

Power Saving-Low
Light Sensor-Off

I hope this helps some people...........and maybe even saves someone $350.00

Very useful and awesome post. There should be a dedicated thread where folks post their optimal settings. It would be a huge help to a lot of us.

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by mdm1699

Very useful and awesome post. There should be a dedicated thread where folks post their optimal settings. It would be a huge help to a lot of us.

let me see if this can be possible...will get back with you guys.

(I think calibration settings is a good idea, just dont know how feasible is to dedicate threads to them...so many different tv's)

[Keiths Light]

should make one sticky thread for people to post their tv's settings only after being properly calibrated. just model numbers and settings. no comments. might be a little hard ot sort through but it's better then nothing.

[Blu-Beard]

Originally Posted by Keiths Light

should make one sticky thread for people to post their tv's settings only after being properly calibrated. just model numbers and settings. no comments. might be a little hard ot sort through but it's better then nothing.

+1

[crackinhedz]

well Im gonna see if I cant get a sticky and maybe call it "Custom Calibrations" and see if I cant get subfolders (for each brand perhaps?) made inside...?

(but im pretty new at this moderator business, so I have to find out if its possible? )

[mikenike]

Well, keep up the good work, crackin!

And thanks very much to Shawn for a great post! Very helpful and money saving.

[shoe465]

I am familiar with how Best Buy does them ($300) and the tech (not geek squad) has his ISF equipment and used a lens on the screen and the computer choose the settings based on light in the room and testing. The ISF equipment he uses is setting the television as close as possible to perfect white and the way the picture was filmed, because ISF also calibrates the movie production cameras. I know of the Pioneer 60" plasma that was calibrated in the store is night and day difference and it runs a lot cooler, so saves on the life of the television. I think it is definitely worth it. I am having it done on my two plasmas after I get some hours of use on em.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by ShawnE94SL

I also posted this on AVS:


EDIT: I've added the calibration reports showing D65


I had my 52W3000 ISF calibrated this morning by Spencer Sight and Sound in Telford, PA. Overall I am happy with the final settings. Was it worth the $350.00, I'm on the fence about that. Black levels and color were improved the most. I was a little concerned on some of the settings the tech choose, but over all the picture is really clean.

Here are the settings he used after calibration:

HDMI

Picture-Custom
BackLight-8
Picture-87
Brightness-50
Color-61
HUe-R1
Color Temp-Neutral
Sharpness-33
Noise Reduction-Off
MPEG NR-Off

Advance Settings
Black Corrector-Off
Advance CE-Off
Gamma-Off
Clear White-Off
Color Space-Wide
Live Color-Off
Detail Enhancer-Low
Edge Enhancer-Off

White Balance
RGain 0
GGain 0
BGain -6
RBias 10
GBias 2
BBias -10

Power Saving-Low
Light Sensor-Off

I hope this helps some people...........and maybe even saves someone $350.00

I just adjusted my Sony Bravia KDL-52W3000 LCD to these settings and I have to admit that it did improve the image a bit. I can't say that it was different enough from the picture attained from my own settings to warrant a $350 price tag. Nevertheless, it seems to be good.

I did notice that the 'grain' element of filmed material is slightly more noticeable with these settings compared to my old settings. Can't say that I'm particularly fond of that, but I'll just have to tinker a bit to find out why that is.

Nevertheless, thanks for the info.

Anyone with the KDL-52W3000 should try this and see how they like it. And just so you know, I adjusted the settings under the STANDARD picture. So, that means that, if you wish to keep your current settings, adjust on either STANDARD or CUSTOM (whichever isn't currently being used) and switch between the two to see which you like best.

Happy calibrating.

[lrankine]

Originally Posted by shoe465

I am familiar with how Best Buy does them ($300) and the tech (not geek squad) has his ISF equipment and used a lens on the screen and the computer choose the settings based on light in the room and testing. The ISF equipment he uses is setting the television as close as possible to perfect white and the way the picture was filmed, because ISF also calibrates the movie production cameras. I know of the Pioneer 60" plasma that was calibrated in the store is night and day difference and it runs a lot cooler, so saves on the life of the television. I think it is definitely worth it. I am having it done on my two plasmas after I get some hours of use on em.

OK, so does this mean that it's not a good idea to have your set calibrated when it's brand new?

[mdm1699]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

let me see if this can be possible...will get back with you guys.

(I think calibration settings is a good idea, just dont know how feasible is to dedicate threads to them...so many different tv's)

This is the very reason that it would be great. The regulars on this site are only a handful. Think of the newbies and those that browse the site for info. We keep preaching calibration/blu-ray is superior/blu-ray is better than upconversion. Help people out. Let it happen Crackinhedz.

[shoe465]

Originally Posted by lrankine

OK, so does this mean that it's not a good idea to have your set calibrated when it's brand new?

No, don't calibrate a set when its brand new, have at least 300 hours of use on it before doing so. For those who don't know the calibration that is done, actually enters the service menu on the television not the normal menu to adjust all the settings. This is a menu that is not accessible by the normal person. You can have any television calibrated, not just LCD's. Even CRT Tube HD Widescreen televisions can be done, along with plasmas.

[ShawnE94SL]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

I just adjusted my Sony Bravia KDL-52W3000 LCD to these settings and I have to admit that it did improve the image a bit. I can't say that it was different enough from the picture attained from my own settings to warrant a $350 price tag. Nevertheless, it seems to be good.

I did notice that the 'grain' element of filmed material is slightly more noticeable with these settings compared to my old settings. Can't say that I'm particularly fond of that, but I'll just have to tinker a bit to find out why that is.

Nevertheless, thanks for the info.

Anyone with the KDL-52W3000 should try this and see how they like it. And just so you know, I adjusted the settings under the STANDARD picture. So, that means that, if you wish to keep your current settings, adjust on either STANDARD or CUSTOM (whichever isn't currently being used) and switch between the two to see which you like best.

Happy calibrating.

Trust me, I agree with you. $350 was a lot to spend on this and I am still not certain it was totally worth it. I guess in the long run it was though. I was always playing with the settings trying to get the best picture possible. I've used every setting posted in the AVS XBR4/5 calibrated settings post. I would always end up back with the CNET settings. They always looked good to me; however, the black level and color were faded. After calibration I did notice a big difference in the picture.....enough to warrant spending $350......let's just say my wife isn't to crazy about it. She also noticed a difference, but didn't think it was worth it.

[donutman925]

I would love to see this made into a proper thread with everyones tv's listed with their calibrated settings. I think it would be a big help to everyone.

[JasonR]

I think a dedicated thread would be in order, but maybe limit it to TVs from the last 4-5 years. Otherwise, it might get a little out of control...

[ShawnE94SL]

Originally Posted by JasonR

I think a dedicated thread would be in order, but maybe limit it to TVs from the last 4-5 years. Otherwise, it might get a little out of control...

Hey Jason. I also have the KDL40V2500 in my bedroom. What settings do you find best for this TV?

[JasonR]

Backlight: 5 - 7
Sharpness: Min - 12
Color Temp: Warm 1
Color: 46
Brightness: 46
Picture (contrast): 93
Hue: 0


The noise reduction feature should be turned off.

Advanced Settings Menu:

Black Corrector: Off
Advanced CE: Off
Gamma: High
Clear White: Off
Live Color: High
Color Space: Wide
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off

Full Pixel On



I play with my sharpness and backlight depending on the light in my room and just how I'm feeling at the moment.

[crackinhedz]

well guys, we are one step closer to getting a dedicated thread going...or threads...

im trying to get a subforum section going in the display section (sort of like the PSP subforum found in the PS3 section)....and hopefully I can get stickies for each tv brand...

so I was thinking that the more popular brands are...(feel free to inform me of others) and the stickies would be called:

Sony
Pioneer
Samsung
Mitsubishi
LG
Sharp
Toshiba
Westinghouse
"Others"


do you think this would generally cover the average user? I figure, in each section members could list their TV model# and provide their settings.

[ShawnE94SL]

The attached excel spreadsheet contains the settings for my TV after calibration and also the calibrated settings for both CNET (on the XBR4) and HDTV Test (on the 40W300). Feel free to compare the other 2 with my ISF settings. I think you will agree the ISF settings look much better. BTW, the CNET settings is what I was using, though I used LOW for Power saving; HIGH was just too washed out.

Click the hyper-links to be taken directly to the source page where I copied the settings from..

Scratch that.....I can't add a Excel file and if it's in word it's too big. I could ZIP it, but my evaluation trial is over with WIN Zip and I currently use .RAR

Any suggestions?

[ShawnE94SL]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

I just adjusted my Sony Bravia KDL-52W3000 LCD to these settings and I have to admit that it did improve the image a bit. I can't say that it was different enough from the picture attained from my own settings to warrant a $350 price tag. Nevertheless, it seems to be good.

I did notice that the 'grain' element of filmed material is slightly more noticeable with these settings compared to my old settings. Can't say that I'm particularly fond of that, but I'll just have to tinker a bit to find out why that is.

Nevertheless, thanks for the info.

Anyone with the KDL-52W3000 should try this and see how they like it. And just so you know, I adjusted the settings under the STANDARD picture. So, that means that, if you wish to keep your current settings, adjust on either STANDARD or CUSTOM (whichever isn't currently being used) and switch between the two to see which you like best.

Happy calibrating.

BTW, what settings were you using? I'd like to compare them to these.

[ShawnE94SL]

Originally Posted by JasonR

Backlight: 5 - 7
Sharpness: Min - 12
Color Temp: Warm 1
Color: 46
Brightness: 46
Picture (contrast): 93
Hue: 0


The noise reduction feature should be turned off.

Advanced Settings Menu:

Black Corrector: Off
Advanced CE: Off
Gamma: High
Clear White: Off
Live Color: High
Color Space: Wide
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off

Full Pixel On



I play with my sharpness and backlight depending on the light in my room and just how I'm feeling at the moment.

Interesting.....how did you come up with these settings? Did you use a calibration disc? Also, does your V2500 have clouding? I know most of them do. I was using a BL of MIN, because of the clouding, but found that to be too washed out. I've been using 5 also with GAMMA set low. Live Color is something I left off on this TV. I am going to try these regardless. I'll let you know what I think. BTW, are these the settings for HDMI?