To all guys that designed your High end HT

[sAvAgE69]

So just a question to all of you. jeremy your system rocks!!


when you designed your system for equipment. what did you start with?

If I was to do something like that I would start with

1) Speaker Choice
2) power amps
3) Cabling
4) Surround Sound Processor
5) Blu Ray player
6) projector


would like to know what your strategy was to get your perfect HT..

thanks in advance

[sokrman14]

If you are going with separates, which is what you described, I would put my surround sound processor much higher. The rest of the order seems to be pretty much right on. Speakers would be most important, then AMPs, and processors. Then the rest. Good luck finding the equipment that makes you happy. There are many speakers to listen to, make sure you narrow down your choices first so you dont get overwhelmed.

[sAvAgE69]

just with high end at the moment I know what I want. if I leave the processor till last. perhaps newer models will come out, that have the support . this was my reasoning behind it,

I do see where you are coming from though

My Setup Idea so far for the audio is as follows

Amps
Anthem P2 and Anthem P5
Processor
Anthem Statement D3???? If it comes out? the D2 will suffice as well
Speakers
Bowers & Wilkins ??? or Klipsch???? Paradigm???

[Gremal]

What I like about the way you itemized it is that you're basically putting more emphasis on the back end and leaving the front end for last. The one exception is your display device. But each component is so critically important to your system that they really should be seen as equals, even if you aren't spending money equally between them. I like how you listed cables among your components because the horror of it is that every dang thing in the signal path is going to affect the quality down to the capacitors in your gear.

[sokrman14]

Originally Posted by sAvAgE69

just with high end at the moment I know what I want. if I leave the processor till last. perhaps newer models will come out, that have the support . this was my reasoning behind it,

I do see where you are coming from though

My Setup Idea so far for the audio is as follows

Amps
Anthem P2 and Anthem P5
Processor
Anthem Statement D3???? If it comes out? the D2 will suffice as well
Speakers
Bowers & Wilkins ??? or Klipsch???? Paradigm???

I definitely understand waiting on the "electronic" portion because of updates. I really like what you are looking at with your amps and processor, may favorite as well for HT use, also with McIntosh, but they are even pricier. Speaker wise: I personally only like the Paradigm. B&W cost too much for what you get in my opinion. Klipsch just don't sound good to me, their horn tweeter drives me nuts. I think it sounds like you are in a hallway that echos sometimes. In addition to Paradigms check out some Monitor Audio Gold Series, Sonus Faber and Meridian. All are great speakers with a great sound.

Personal favorites for me are the Sonus Faber cremonas, but too expensive for me. You will also love Meridian.

[AlaskaDon]

I was space-limited as many people are, so I had to look at choice in projector early on. Originally I wanted to use a DLP pj and I went as far as buying an Optoma HD80. I knew in advance I didn't have enough throw distance for the screen size that I wanted, but my plan was to cut a hole in the wall and project thru the hole. That would give me the required distance, and have the benefit of eliminating both the noise and the heat from the projector. When I went to do the actual installation, I found a big main support beam running right where my projection hole needed to be. Had to exchange my Optoma for a Sony Pearl which fit my room better.

[sokrman14]

I would look at the Sony SXRD projectors, or if money allows a Runco projector. The Sony projectors run $5k and $15k, and are my choice for projectors. They run silent and cool. I can sit right underneath them in a room without sound and not hear them.

[Durentis]

Originally Posted by sAvAgE69

when you designed your system for equipment. what did you start with?

If I was to do something like that I would start with

1) Speaker Choice
2) power amps
3) Cabling
4) Surround Sound Processor
5) Blu Ray player
6) projector


would like to know what your strategy was to get your perfect HT..

As far as I'm concerned, what you get first really depends on what you have because what you have can fill in for what you don't get right away. Cables you just get as needed to connect the other stuff at each stage.. not a whole lot to consider there.

Short:
1) Projector
2) Throw-away Receiver
3) 5.0 Speakers (fronts, then surrounds, then center)
4) PS3 (Blu-ray, etc.. player.)
5) Sub and quality Receiver
6) Rear speakers for 7.1
7) Stand-alone Blu player

Long:
In my case, I started with an old 20" SD TV, an upconverting DVD player, and stereo computer speakers when my brother moved his HT stuff out with him.

My first order of business was to take advantage of the upconverting DVD player so I bought a 1080p projector (without an internal speaker) and ended up buying a cheap receiver to use the stereo computer speakers while I looked for and thought I was going to cheap out on speakers (so much for that).

I was introduced to Paradigms and bought those next.. fronts, center, and two surrounds ..and tossed the stereo computer speakers. So now I have DVD quality audio on nice speakers with a good display. (Cheap out on speakers? What was I thinking.. )

Then I grabbed a PS3 so I could watch Blu-ray and take advantage of the 1080p (tossing the upconverting DVD player).

A few weeks ago I ordered a Servo-15 subwoofer and Marantz SR-8002 receiver (just arrived at the store.. woohoo!) which will give me good bass and lossless audio.

Next on the list are two rear speakers for 7.1, a screen for the projector (though my slightly dinged beige wall is surprisingly clear.. ), and a stand-alone Blu player if only for lossless HD MA (yes I'm looking at you Sony.. update my PS3, please).

[jomari]

Originally Posted by sAvAgE69

If I was to do something like that I would start with

1) Speaker Choice
2) power amps
3) Cabling
4) Surround Sound Processor
5) Blu Ray player
6) projector


would like to know what your strategy was to get your perfect HT..

thanks in advance

the audio portion of your system setup would actually work, but ...

what id be concerned about is your projector.
1.what are the dimensions of your room if ever? have you considered the throw distance?
2.how far and how big of a screen will you be accomodating?
3.are you considering full 1080p pj? or a 720p? how far of a seating distance will you be and will the pj be too noisy for you to hear? how can you isolate this if ever your pj has to sit right above you?
4. will this be ceiling mounted? or table mounted?

all these can affect your current HT setup.

heres a couple of good places to start studying about pjs,

http://www.projectorcentral.com/home...rs_guide_5.htm

http://www.projectorreviews.com/adviceinfo.php

[yellowblanket]

cant believe you missed out one very important factor.

Accoustic

[jomari]

Originally Posted by yellowblanket

cant believe you missed out one very important factor.

Accoustic

Touche' on acoustics. albeit some people tend to lear away from it plainly for aesthetics.

a 70-85% improvement can be seen when proper acoustics are placed/done in a room.

even a simple toe-in can help at times. or even moving your speakers away from the wall.

[yellowblanket]

my basement used to sound okay, i mean i cant really complain, but after reading some pointer tip about accoustical. i started working on treating the room. Started with basetrap, absorber, first reflection and caculated the right distance throw of my speakers. The result blew my mind, the bass is alot tighter, no rattle and the surround sound is just outstanding.
This should be the list if i was to build another HT

component
accoustic
speaker
cabling

[sAvAgE69]

Originally Posted by jomari

the audio portion of your system setup would actually work, but ...

what id be concerned about is your projector.
1.what are the dimensions of your room if ever? have you considered the throw distance?
2.how far and how big of a screen will you be accomodating?
3.are you considering full 1080p pj? or a 720p? how far of a seating distance will you be and will the pj be too noisy for you to hear? how can you isolate this if ever your pj has to sit right above you?
4. will this be ceiling mounted? or table mounted?

all these can affect your current HT setup.

heres a couple of good places to start studying about pjs,

http://www.projectorcentral.com/home...rs_guide_5.htm

http://www.projectorreviews.com/adviceinfo.php

to answer a question the room dimensions are 27 feet long 13.4 feet wide, I have 1 solid wall, another solid wall with two windows.

the solid wall has a fireplace hence the projector Idea.

[sAvAgE69]

Originally Posted by yellowblanket

cant believe you missed out one very important factor.

Accoustic

DOH!!!! >_<

Did I forget to mention a room that needs to be overhauled?

[jomari]

Originally Posted by sAvAgE69

to answer a question the room dimensions are 27 feet long 13.4 feet wide, I have 1 solid wall, another solid wall with two windows.

the solid wall has a fireplace hence the projector Idea.

more details if you may friend.

[sAvAgE69]

The house is a 4 level split

The Wall that has the fireplace is 13.4 feet wide the chimney area is 71 inches (5 feet 11 inches) the height from the fireplace is 57 inches from the ceiling to the top of the fireplace.

the length is 20.5 feet the width is 13.4 feet.

what details are you looking for?

this room will be getting overhauled soon.

new walls, acoustics, carpet, decor, furniture, etc

[MouseRider]

The height of the room would be important as well.

The fireplace would be the first "alarm" that would go off, it can be several problems depending on the type of fireplace it is and how modern it is.

The problem is soot/ash which could ruin your screen and even equipment.

Then there are the windows.

The soft item that you want to consider is:

What type of room do you want to end up with.
i.e. Dedicated theater, family room, multi-purpose room, game room.

Remember, the more "multi" the purpose, the more compromises may come into play.

The hard item is budget.
As with many things, the sky could be the limit for theaters so what budget do you have? In this instance, money can solve many problems with greater ease.

If you do a search, you probably will find an older thread where budget allocation was discussed quite extensively.


I have a dedicated THX-spec theater which is about 3,000 cu.ft. with a segmented 240 cu.ft. machine room which houses all the equipment including the projector which shoots through a hole to the main room.

Seats 7 comfortably though chairs can be added to the isle if necessary.

It is used only for watching movies, playing games, listening to music and working (editing and mixing).

[jomari]

Originally Posted by sAvAgE69

The house is a 4 level split

The Wall that has the fireplace is 13.4 feet wide the chimney area is 71 inches (5 feet 11 inches) the height from the fireplace is 57 inches from the ceiling to the top of the fireplace.

the length is 20.5 feet the width is 13.4 feet.

what details are you looking for?

this room will be getting overhauled soon.

new walls, acoustics, carpet, decor, furniture, etc

hmm. kinda tricky not knowing how your room will be overhauled tho... but nonetheless, you can find a lot of details regarding the projectors throw and also about its keystoning capabilities via the websites i posted eariler.

[Clark Kent]

At the very highest level for home theater one would design the room and then build it around a conscious plan and design. Some rooms will just never be good "sound spaces" due to dimensions, weird building material, etc. It's why in very high end installations acoustics are often considered first before you buy a single piece of equipment.

[sAvAgE69]

the fireplace is a gas fireplace, the original fireplace was hauled out, all that is real is just the chimney

this will be a Family room, turned into a home theatre room, that will be to entertain some guests and free up the living room that we have.

I will post some pics of the room. so you guys can get a better Idea of my project