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Old 02-09-2008, 10:58 PM   #1
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i am the proud owner of the 1-5 bd's of harry potter
thing is i was dissapointed that the films werent full screen on a 16:9 tv
soo today im watching my digital cable and harry 1 plays in hd

FULL SCREEN!!!

so i put in my bd and go to exact same time spot and the cable broadcast has Atleast 1-2 inches more and top and bottom of image
am not talkign stretched image and talking actual footage we dont have in the blu-ray

soo it this normal for warner to have cut the film this way
i mean bd is for Hdtv's
this is realy screwed up


im just wondering how many movies could actualy be full screen and not 2/3 of screen

can some 1 tell me if im just nuts or is warner and propably other studio screwin with us
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Old 02-10-2008, 12:02 AM   #2
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When you watch movies on TV, you'll notice a disclaimer at the beginning that usually says, "This film has been edited for content, and to run in the time allotted, and to fit the size of most screens," or some such nonsense.

The Blu-ray versions are usually precisely what they were filmed in, or what the directors intent was.

From what I recall, my HP 1-5's all fill the entire screen on my 16:9 TV.
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Old 02-10-2008, 12:08 AM   #3
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When you watch movies on TV, you'll notice a disclaimer at the beginning that usually says, "This film has been edited for content, and to run in the time allotted, and to fit the size of most screens," or some such nonsense.

The Blu-ray versions are usually precisely what they were filmed in, or what the directors intent was.

From what I recall, my HP 1-5's all fill the entire screen on my 16:9 TV.

theres a bunch of technical film mumbo jumbo tht goes on with this. they change the aspect ratios for DVD and tv versions to fit the TV's better.

but the HP's on BD are 2.3:1 no 16:9. if its filling your screen you have your TV on the wrong setting and its depriving you of all of the picture.
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Old 02-10-2008, 12:11 AM   #4
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The Harry Potter movies are all in 2.35 (or thereabouts):1 aspect ratio. This ratio has small black bars at the top and bottom of 16:9 TVs.

I wonder what you saw . . . but whatever it was, its unlikely that it was displayed in theatres, because the aspect ratio on blu-ray matches what imdb.com lists as the theatrical aspect ratio.

Also, the very top and bottom of the screen can't be too important, right?
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Old 02-10-2008, 12:18 AM   #5
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The cable company is actually the one screwing with you . . . while you are correct in saying that it's not a stretched image, what actually happens is they zoom in on the frame until it's 16:9 and that's how they broadcast it. Garbage.
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Old 02-10-2008, 10:06 AM   #6
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i should of took picture
u could clearly seen more of the image
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Old 02-10-2008, 10:13 AM   #7
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I'm with BStecke on this one.
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Old 02-10-2008, 11:30 AM   #8
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all the harry potters i own are OAR... thus i have black bars... everyone else is right... i wouldn't take the cable company's version as defacto.
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Old 02-10-2008, 12:14 PM   #9
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I have to agree with almost everyone on this.I hate to look at a movie on cable or regulars broadcast because they always edit stuff to fit the time allowed.
They trim it to make sure the commercials get one, change the language when you know the F word is coming you get hell or some crap at that.

As for the HP movies all as the Black Bars on the to and bottom on the screen.One of them was on HBO HD the other night and it took up the whole screen can't say that it looked good.

Stick with the BD.
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Old 02-10-2008, 12:59 PM   #10
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This happens in many Pan and Scan films too...but here is what you get...

When the film is recorded, there is a very large amount filmed outside the aspect ratio. Remember the film is framed in a certain aspect ration the director chooses. There is more film above, below, and left and right of the actual ratio. When you have a cropped image on TV, they may add some of the outside image which did not make it into the aspect ratio. Sometimes, for fans, this can be great! Other times, it can show you things you were not meant to see such as boom mics and behind the scenes junk.

Watch Back to the Future part 2 and during the DeLorean scene where Marty uses the hoverboard to sneak up on Biff in his car to get the Almanac. In the Pan and Scan version, you can see all the tricks and behind the scenes stuff you do not see in the 1:85 aspect ratio. Jurassic Park also does this same thing throughout the Pan and Scan film.

It seems that 1:85 aspect ratio exposes alot of extra footage because there is not much to crop for 4:3. Otherwise we would feel like we are in the 80's when cropping was not easy and the alternative was to squish the screen and make slim tall people which looked really funny. See Jaws 3-D and Short Circuit in Pan and Scan sometime!!!
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Old 02-10-2008, 01:47 PM   #11
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Switch your TV to "full" picture mode if you don't like the bars. For the record they a supposed to be there.
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Old 02-10-2008, 03:42 PM   #12
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I have black bars on the top and bottom of my screen when I watch Order of the Phoenix.
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:51 PM   #13
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The cable company is actually the one screwing with you . . . while you are correct in saying that it's not a stretched image, what actually happens is they zoom in on the frame until it's 16:9 and that's how they broadcast it. Garbage.
Yup, just like when I was watching the Matrix the other day on cable. Originally filmed in the 2.35:1 aspect ratio, the Showcase HD channel's broadcast was zoomed up to fit my 16x9 screen. It looked horrible. Can't wait for the Blu ray version.
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Old 02-10-2008, 06:30 PM   #14
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not actuayl complaining against black bars
was just hoping there was something not right in my settings and i should be gething more


but films on bd with 16:9 looks nice
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Old 02-10-2008, 06:34 PM   #15
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see if there is a option for "full scan" or "full screen"

my LCD has one and its shows more picture than 16:9
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