Close Caption through PS3 w HDMI - Blu-ray Forum

slee915 · 02-14-2008, 03:47 AM

Is it possible to display close caption from a DVD played through PS3 with HDMI ? Some titles I have, e.g. South Park, a few BBC titles, don't have subtitles but only CC.

Caligula · 02-14-2008, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by slee915

Is it possible to display close caption from a DVD played through PS3 with HDMI ? Some titles I have, e.g. South Park, a few BBC titles, don't have subtitles but only CC.

NOPE!! PS3 doesnt have cc at all, Disappointed me too!! my dvd cc wont work either via HDMI! DAMN YOU SONY MY SON AND I NEED OUR CLOSED CAPTIONED on PS3!

It sucked for me when i brought ps3 home after target finding out that CC will not work on SDVD! I was so mad , cursing at ps3 and it was before I started buying blu ray.

slee915 · 02-14-2008, 04:09 AM

I think you are right. Seems like CC can only be displayed through 480i & analog outputs.

My DVD player won't display CC as soon as I set it to progressive.

Caligula · 02-14-2008, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by slee915

I think you are right. Seems like CC can only be displayed through 480i & analog outputs.

My DVD player won't display CC as soon as I set it to progressive.

NO!! CC works fine on HD 1080i or 1080p. its just sony PS3 doesnt have ability to display cc. I dont know why because ps2 worked fine... thats without hdmi? I wondered if hdmi prevented?

Caligula · 02-14-2008, 06:04 AM

I hope OP doesnt mind if i ask other than ps3 question here...

will SONY or any BD Players display closed captioned (not subtitles) playing SDVD movies via hdmi?

Caligula · 02-14-2008, 11:02 PM

bump

WriteSimply · 02-14-2008, 11:55 PM

Cali, you might wanna ask paidgeek about CC over HDMI in his insider's thread.

fuad

Krazy · 02-15-2008, 09:22 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the traditional line 21 CC system incompatible with HDMI as line 21 is an analog system and HDMI is purely digital?

Banjo · 02-16-2008, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Krazy

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the traditional line 21 CC system incompatible with HDMI as line 21 is an analog system and HDMI is purely digital?

Apparently HDMI is not able to carry an overlaying signal over video and audio according to an engineer I had an conversation with the other day.

wfaulk · 01-10-2012, 05:19 PM

Sorry to resurrect this ancient thread, but as a new user, I am unable to create a new thread, and no one seems to have answered my question elsewhere. Namely:

Is there any Blu-Ray player out there that will decode NTSC closed captioning on DVDs and overlay that information on the video so that it can be viewed when connected to a display over HDMI?

nikkitony1 · 12-29-2013, 10:26 PM

It is also important to note, that subtitles and closed caption are two different things. Subtitles only convey what is voiced by the actors nothing else. Closed captioning relates everything happening on the screen. One example is a musical where the songs which are integral to the plot of the story, they are not subtitled. There are other examples as well. The point is subtitles do not tell the whole story. And yes NOT all movies are subtitled!
I love blurays and the quality is great. However, Bluray player do NOT support Closed Captioning. Which makes it impossible for everyone to enjoy movies. When blurays came out this was a HUGE oversight. It should be mandated that ALL Bluray players including PS3 be able to support Closed Captioning! Figure out a way!

8traxrule · 12-30-2013, 10:16 AM

The earlier Blu-Ray titles from Sony and Fox actually DO have standard closed captions, though your TV can only decode them if your player is hooked up through analog (if it even HAS analog outputs!) and set to 480i. My computer Blu-Ray playback program can also display them. I agree that Blu-Ray players should include decoders for standard closed-captions, as there are hundreds of DVDs that include them (and don't even include corresponding player-generated subtitles) and most current players only have HDMI outputs now.

KilloWertz · 12-30-2013, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by nikkitony1

It is also important to note, that subtitles and closed caption are two different things. Subtitles only convey what is voiced by the actors nothing else. Closed captioning relates everything happening on the screen. One example is a musical where the songs which are integral to the plot of the story, they are not subtitled. There are other examples as well. The point is subtitles do not tell the whole story. And yes NOT all movies are subtitled!
I love blurays and the quality is great. However, Bluray player do NOT support Closed Captioning. Which makes it impossible for everyone to enjoy movies. When blurays came out this was a HUGE oversight. It should be mandated that ALL Bluray players including PS3 be able to support Closed Captioning! Figure out a way!

Agreed, but if the content you're putting into the PS3 doesn't support close captioning, then it means nothing anyways. I tried a Blu-ray without subtitles last week and didn't get any closed captioning. I'm no expert, so maybe anything would if you watched it without HDMI, but then that defeats one of the major reasons of watching a Blu-ray.

02-14-2008, 03:47 AM	#1
slee915 Senior Member Member since:May 2007 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:985 Blu-ray reviews:10	Close Caption through PS3 w HDMI Is it possible to display close caption from a DVD played through PS3 with HDMI ? Some titles I have, e.g. South Park, a few BBC titles, don't have subtitles but only CC.

12-29-2013, 10:26 PM	#11
nikkitony1 Junior Member Member since:Dec 2007 Blu-ray collection:1	Closed captioning should be mandatory for ALL players! It is also important to note, that subtitles and closed caption are two different things. Subtitles only convey what is voiced by the actors nothing else. Closed captioning relates everything happening on the screen. One example is a musical where the songs which are integral to the plot of the story, they are not subtitled. There are other examples as well. The point is subtitles do not tell the whole story. And yes NOT all movies are subtitled! I love blurays and the quality is great. However, Bluray player do NOT support Closed Captioning. Which makes it impossible for everyone to enjoy movies. When blurays came out this was a HUGE oversight. It should be mandated that ALL Bluray players including PS3 be able to support Closed Captioning! Figure out a way!

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02-14-2008, 04:09 AM	#3
slee915 Senior Member Member since:May 2007 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:985 Blu-ray reviews:10	I think you are right. Seems like CC can only be displayed through 480i & analog outputs. My DVD player won't display CC as soon as I set it to progressive.

02-14-2008, 06:04 AM	#5
Caligula Banned Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Philadelphia Trading Score:1	I hope OP doesnt mind if i ask other than ps3 question here... will SONY or any BD Players display closed captioned (not subtitles) playing SDVD movies via hdmi?

02-14-2008, 11:02 PM	#6
Caligula Banned Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Philadelphia Trading Score:1	bump

02-14-2008, 11:55 PM	#7
WriteSimply Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	Cali, you might wanna ask paidgeek about CC over HDMI in his insider's thread. fuad

02-15-2008, 09:22 AM	#8
Krazy Member Member since:Mar 2007	Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the traditional line 21 CC system incompatible with HDMI as line 21 is an analog system and HDMI is purely digital?

01-10-2012, 05:19 PM	#10
wfaulk New Member Member since:Jan 2012	Sorry to resurrect this ancient thread, but as a new user, I am unable to create a new thread, and no one seems to have answered my question elsewhere. Namely: Is there any Blu-Ray player out there that will decode NTSC closed captioning on DVDs and overlay that information on the video so that it can be viewed when connected to a display over HDMI?

12-30-2013, 10:16 AM	#12
8traxrule Power Member Member since:Jul 2009 Blu-ray collection:1	The earlier Blu-Ray titles from Sony and Fox actually DO have standard closed captions, though your TV can only decode them if your player is hooked up through analog (if it even HAS analog outputs!) and set to 480i. My computer Blu-Ray playback program can also display them. I agree that Blu-Ray players should include decoders for standard closed-captions, as there are hundreds of DVDs that include them (and don't even include corresponding player-generated subtitles) and most current players only have HDMI outputs now.

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