Ken Kutaragi was right - Blu-ray Forum

Toxa · 02-17-2008, 02:38 PM

We are at E3 2005 and Ken Kutaragi announced that the PS3 will carry a Blu-ray Player since that day the days of HD-DVD was counted, it was the beginning of a final countdown for the HD-DVD, a countdown which was finished this week, Ken kutargi was right, the Blu-ray is the key to success and the Playstation 3 was the key to the success of Blu-ray.

Here is a video that I just posting on youtube :

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=cwQBfpwp_fQ

ezcobar411 · 02-17-2008, 02:40 PM

I miss Ken. At least he is working on the PS4. I can only imagine what he has up his sleeve for this one.

saprano · 02-17-2008, 08:26 PM

people are gonna still call his ideas for ps4 crazy

xtop · 02-17-2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by saprano

people are gonna still call his ideas for ps4 crazy

which works, cause the guy is crazy

thats why he isn't in charge anymore

ezcobar411 · 02-17-2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by saprano

people are gonna still call his ideas for ps4 crazy

Of course they are. Can't blame the man for wanting to push the boundaries of technology. I thought that was what innovation was all about. Not just a rehash of something else with attaching cheap parlor tricks. I digress, sorry.

quaylie · 02-17-2008, 08:33 PM

what a foreward thinker..i do like kaz hirai and phil harrison though..both cool guys.

eat_me_cool · 02-17-2008, 08:40 PM

The PS4 can simply have 4 or 8 times then number of cells for a massive power increase and full backward compatibility. Thats the advantage of parallel processing. Everything else will be fluff (dual hdmi, 1Tb hdd, 2gb ram etc).

ezcobar411 · 02-17-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by eat_me_cool

The PS4 can simply have 4 or 8 times then number of cells for a massive power increase and full backward compatibility. Thats the advantage of parallel processing. Everything else will be fluff (dual hdmi, 1Tb hdd, 2gb ram etc).

Could you imagine it. That would be amazing. And I want 4 gb ram, nothing less. lol

xtop · 02-17-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by eat_me_cool

The PS4 can simply have 4 or 8 times then number of cells for a massive power increase and full backward compatibility. Thats the advantage of parallel processing. Everything else will be fluff (dual hdmi, 1Tb hdd, 2gb ram etc).

i would hope by the time the ps4 hits that processor's are doing things faster and more efficient than the cell is today. like i was saying in the other thread, i don't think cell..or a variation of it will be in the ps4

andyn1080 · 02-17-2008, 09:09 PM

dude why are we talking about the ps4? im no where near ready to fork out more cash for a new system yet. i still want 5 more yrs of ps3!

Teazle · 02-17-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by eat_me_cool

The PS4 can simply have 4 or 8 times then number of cells for a massive power increase and full backward compatibility. Thats the advantage of parallel processing. Everything else will be fluff (dual hdmi, 1Tb hdd, 2gb ram etc).

Yeah, in a way the PS4's GPU will be the main point of interest, because harder to predict.

Steelmaker · 02-17-2008, 09:25 PM

I think next gen is going to be something beyond an upgrade in graphics. With Wii's success, I think both Sony and Microsoft are already r&d-ing a similar way to control games. Plus with the 3d tech videos that were made with the ps eye and the Wii mote, I think games with a digital 3d perspective will be just as important as 3d graphics. If you haven't seen these tech demos, here is the link. They are quite impressive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw

saprano · 02-17-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ezcobar411

Of course they are. Can't blame the man for wanting to push the boundaries of technology. I thought that was what innovation was all about. Not just a rehash of something else with attaching cheap parlor tricks. I digress, sorry.

this is just how i feel the man is innovative, to quote an interview nexgenaration magazine did with ken kutaragi back in 2001

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ng: microsoft has created a console thats easy to develop for, built from off the shelf pc parts.they argue that if developers aren't spending as much time fighting with the system they'll spend more time creating and balancing gameplay.do you feel this is a legitmate view?

kk:let me ask you this question. if this kind of benefit is one of the advantages of xbox why couldn't they demonstrate very nice early titles at e3?and another question,if the system is easy to develop for,does that neccessarily mean you'll get very nice titles? will you ask mr.spelberg or james cameron if shooting pictures is easier using one kind of camera?

ng:yes but xbox isn't even out yet. after all,it took even some of sony's best developers a year to get ps2 product up and-

kk[interrupting]yes, but more importanly, ps2 is a very,very deep system, and im confident that this is the right environment for creating.the creativity is based on its differences.if it's easy to port, it's easy to copy from.thats not creation,and it's not entertainment. i think 3DO was a much, much nicer platform than xbox.

this interview is still revalent today, he feels just because a system is easy to make games on that dont mean the games will be good. the ps3 is hard to program for yes but that will force creativity to try something new, if everything was so easy in the world,why bother trying something new? something different?. and somebody else posted in a ken kutaragi thread( thers alot of these poping up now) he quoted jfk he said we choose to go to the moon not because its easy but because its hard.

Slackr89 · 02-18-2008, 02:17 AM

Ken is always right. he's like god. gods are never wrong

stockstar1138 · 02-18-2008, 02:20 AM

im sorry, this industry is retarded.

the first ps everybody was like, "oh! ken is nuts, ken is retarded that will never work." he was right.

second time everybody was like, "oh! ken is nuts, ken is retarded that will never work." kenny was right.

now you would think they would have figured it out by now, that the man knows what he is talking about, but NO! ken is stupid, blu-ray is stupid, bla! bla! bla! once again ken showed them.

ken is the greatest console designer ever.

ps3andlovinit · 02-18-2008, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by xtop

which works, cause the guy is crazy

thats why he isn't in charge anymore

Actually that's why he was in charge for so long..most visionaries are crazy

.

xtop · 02-18-2008, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ps3andlovinit

Actually that's why he was in charge for so long..most visionaries are crazy

.

i'll give you that much

ezcobar411 · 02-18-2008, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by stockstar1138

im sorry, this industry is retarded.

the first ps everybody was like, "oh! ken is nuts, ken is retarded that will never work." he was right.

second time everybody was like, "oh! ken is nuts, ken is retarded that will never work." kenny was right.

now you would think they would have figured it out by now, that the man knows what he is talking about, but NO! ken is stupid, blu-ray is stupid, bla! bla! bla! once again ken showed them.

ken is the greatest console designer ever.

Amen

ps3andlovinit · 02-18-2008, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by eat_me_cool

The PS4 can simply have 4 or 8 times then number of cells for a massive power increase and full backward compatibility. Thats the advantage of parallel processing. Everything else will be fluff (dual hdmi, 1Tb hdd, 2gb ram etc).

Yes that's what it will be..that's why all those companies invested what they did..short story .. scalability in multiple directions. PS3 developers are also WAY ahead of the curve for the PS4 development...like 80% done already. xtop is wrong .. again

xtop · 02-18-2008, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ps3andlovinit

Yes that's what it will be..that's why all those companies invested what they did..short story .. scalability in multiple directions. PS3 developers are also WAY ahead of the curve for the PS4 development...like 80% done already. xtop is wrong .. again

oh i forgot you're developing on the ps4 so you'd know that.

shame i have to wait 4-5 more years to prove you wrong.

02-17-2008, 02:38 PM	#1
Toxa Moderator Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Opera Garnier Home Theater Gallery:110 Blu-ray collection:311 Blu-ray reviews:1	Ken Kutaragi was right We are at E3 2005 and Ken Kutaragi announced that the PS3 will carry a Blu-ray Player since that day the days of HD-DVD was counted, it was the beginning of a final countdown for the HD-DVD, a countdown which was finished this week, Ken kutargi was right, the Blu-ray is the key to success and the Playstation 3 was the key to the success of Blu-ray. Here is a video that I just posting on youtube : http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=cwQBfpwp_fQ Last edited by Toxa; 02-17-2008 at 03:01 PM.

02-17-2008, 09:25 PM	#12
Steelmaker Blu-ray Duke Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Chattanooga, TN Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	I think next gen is going to be something beyond an upgrade in graphics. With Wii's success, I think both Sony and Microsoft are already r&d-ing a similar way to control games. Plus with the 3d tech videos that were made with the ps eye and the Wii mote, I think games with a digital 3d perspective will be just as important as 3d graphics. If you haven't seen these tech demos, here is the link. They are quite impressive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw Last edited by Steelmaker; 02-17-2008 at 09:28 PM.

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02-17-2008, 02:40 PM	#2
ezcobar411 Special Member Member since:Dec 2007	I miss Ken. At least he is working on the PS4. I can only imagine what he has up his sleeve for this one.

02-17-2008, 08:26 PM	#3
saprano Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Bronx, New York Blu-ray collection:495 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	people are gonna still call his ideas for ps4 crazy

02-17-2008, 08:33 PM	#6
quaylie Senior Member Member since:Oct 2007 Blu-ray collection:349	what a foreward thinker..i do like kaz hirai and phil harrison though..both cool guys.

02-17-2008, 08:40 PM	#7
eat_me_cool Active Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Battersea	The PS4 can simply have 4 or 8 times then number of cells for a massive power increase and full backward compatibility. Thats the advantage of parallel processing. Everything else will be fluff (dual hdmi, 1Tb hdd, 2gb ram etc).

02-17-2008, 09:09 PM	#10
andyn1080 Active Member Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:910 Blu-ray reviews:2	dude why are we talking about the ps4? im no where near ready to fork out more cash for a new system yet. i still want 5 more yrs of ps3!

02-18-2008, 02:17 AM	#14
Slackr89 Special Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Edmonton, Alberta PSN: Slackr Blu-ray collection:116 Trading Score:2	Ken is always right. he's like god. gods are never wrong

02-18-2008, 02:20 AM	#15
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	im sorry, this industry is retarded. the first ps everybody was like, "oh! ken is nuts, ken is retarded that will never work." he was right. second time everybody was like, "oh! ken is nuts, ken is retarded that will never work." kenny was right. now you would think they would have figured it out by now, that the man knows what he is talking about, but NO! ken is stupid, blu-ray is stupid, bla! bla! bla! once again ken showed them. ken is the greatest console designer ever.

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