Sony KDS55A3000 Review/What can i do to make the PIC better?

[Blu Haze]

Hey im asking owners about what i could do to make the picture better. I put it on 24p from my PS3 and the Blu ray looks stunning. Call Of Duty 4 is more real than ever on my 360. But about 120hz what is it called? And do i need it and will i enjoy it?

[BTBuck1]

I think you need to go into detail a little bit more about what it is you exactly want to know about.

Do you want an education about 120hz? Are you looking for picture settings? Are you asking if the ps3 version of COD4 is better, or if 120hz matters on games? or all of the above?


I'd be glad to help, just revise your question(s)

[Blu Haze]

Ok i want to know when i should use 120hz and what is it called on my new tv? Motion Flow? And should i use it on movies or games. thanks

[Entertainment72]

120hz is called Motion Flow on Sony TV's. I have it set to high on everything I watch.

MotionFlow works best from the PS3 signal moreso than the xBox 360 .

[olds403]

This tv runs at 120hz all the time, there is no option for turning it off.

[Entertainment72]

Originally Posted by olds403

This tv runs at 120hz all the time, there is no option for turning it off.

Really.. I have OFF low medium and high.. hmmmm

[lildawgryan]

Originally Posted by olds403

This tv runs at 120hz all the time, there is no option for turning it off.

[Blu Haze]

Originally Posted by Entertainment72

Really.. I have OFF low medium and high.. hmmmm

Ok ill try it. Hope i enjoy it.

[Metalheadisme]

You can't "turn off" the 120Hz refresh rate... that is the rate the tv refreshes the picture and that will always be the case.

The reason the 120hz is there is to give you a smoother picture with 24Hz content (like blu-rays). Other HDTV's have a 60Hz refresh rate to correspond to Hi-def television which refreshes at 60Hz. Obviously, 24Hz does not go evenly into 60Hz, so on a 60Hz display, some frames are displayed longer than others for 24Hz content (3:2 pulldown). A 120Hz tv like this one will display all frames evenly since 60Hz and 24Hz both go into 120Hz evenly (It'll display every one frame of 24Hz content 5 times and every one frame of 60Hz content twice).

The Sony A3000 TV's offer some video processing to make use of those repeated frames, the three options being Motion Enhancer (ME), Motion Naturalizer (MN), and CineMotion (CM).

CineMotion is a legacy processing for doing reverse pulldown of 3:2 content (when 24Hz is displayed at 60Hz). There really isn't much use for it in this set and it tends to introduce studdering, so just have it off.

Motion Naturalizer inserts dark frames in between refreshed frames to break the sample-and-hold nature of repeated frames so motion looks more natural. Auto1 will insert a completely dark frame, while Auto2 will insert a slightly darkened version of the original frame. Most people (including myself) notice a "flicker" with this setting (less so on 60Hz content than 24Hz content, but still there), but try it and see if you like it. I personally keep this OFF on all inputs.

Motion Enhancer applies some logic to interpolate between the current frame and the next frame, and instead of simply repeating frames takes a "guess" at what the frames in between should be. This can make motion look ultra-smooth at the price of possibly making it look too-smooth and video-like for cinematic content. For 60Hz content, the interpolated frame doesn't alter motion much (since only one frame is being interpolated), and can add quite a bit to the image, so I keep it on Standard. For 24Hz content, I keep it OFF- it just makes it look too artificially smooth for my taste.

So, while you can't "turn off" 120Hz, you can alter how the video processing is handled in converting 24Hz or 60Hz content to a 120Hz refresh rate.

I hope that helps. The A3000's are beautiful TV's- I love mine!

[Blu Haze]

Originally Posted by Entertainment72

120hz is called Motion Flow on Sony TV's. I have it set to high on everything I watch.

MotionFlow works best from the PS3 signal moreso than the xBox 360 .

What is it called when setting. I see enchancer and soemthing else?

[Metalheadisme]

Originally Posted by Blu Haze

What is it called when setting. I see enchancer and soemthing else?

Motion Flow is the name Sony uses to describe their 120Hz video processing- it is not an available setting on the TV.

The Motion Flow engine has settings called Motion Enhancer and Motion Naturalizer which I describe in my previous post.

[Blu Haze]

Originally Posted by Metalheadisme

Motion Flow is the name Sony uses to describe their 120Hz video processing- it is not an available setting on the TV.

The Motion Flow engine has settings called Motion Enhancer and Motion Naturalizer which I describe in my previous post.

For naturalizer should i put it on auto1 or 2 which were you refering to in your post above?

[Metalheadisme]

Originally Posted by Blu Haze

For naturalizer should i put it on auto1 or 2 which were you refering to in your post above?

Auto1, which inserts a completely dark frame, might be ok for some broadcast hdtv (60Hz source) but on most broadcast content 24Hz content like blu-rays, you will definitely notice a flicker.

Auto2, which inserts a somewhat darkened copy of the previous frame, looks pretty good for 60Hz broadcast stuff, but still, in my opinion, gives a flicker on blu-rays.

The idea was that in dark environments, Auto1 should be used, and in bright environments, Auto2 should be used, but in practice, the only one I can suggest trying out is Auto2 for 60Hz broadcast material. I'd recommend having it OFF for all 24Hz content.

Over on AVS forums, most people prefer to have it OFF for all content, but a few like having Auto2 for broadcast material, so give it a try and see whether you like it or not.

[Blu Haze]

Originally Posted by Metalheadisme

Auto1, which inserts a completely dark frame, might be ok for some broadcast hdtv (60Hz source) but on most broadcast content 24Hz content like blu-rays, you will definitely notice a flicker.

Auto2, which inserts a somewhat darkened copy of the previous frame, looks pretty good for 60Hz broadcast stuff, but still, in my opinion, gives a flicker on blu-rays.

The idea was that in dark environments, Auto1 should be used, and in bright environments, Auto2 should be used, but in practice, the only one I can suggest trying out is Auto2 for 60Hz broadcast material. I'd recommend having it OFF for all 24Hz content.

Over on AVS forums, most people prefer to have it OFF for all content, but a few like having Auto2 for broadcast material, so give it a try and see whether you like it or not.

OK i have it o auto 1 but 24hz in only Blu rays not PS3/360 right? And i put it on High for 120hz right?

[Entertainment72]

Blu Haze, with Sony's Motion Enhancer and the SXRD display calibrated.. Plasma's won't be able to touch your new 55A3000

I AM LEGEND

[Blu Haze]

Originally Posted by Entertainment72

Blu Haze, with Sony's Motion Enhancer and the SXRD display calibrated.. Plasma's won't be able to touch your new 55A3000 [/IMG]

What are you tv setting and its for mainly nighttime viewing.

[BTBuck1]

only time you can really get away with Motion enhancement on high is nature docs, animation (like cars, tatatouille), some sports (football) and gaming. everything else i usually leave it set to standard.

[nezff]

here are some settings I use. Calibrated with Monster DVD.
Motion Enhancer is standard
Motion Naturalizer OFF
cinemotion OFF

Standard
Auto1
90
55
0
Cool
50
Medium
Off
Low

Advanced
OFF
OFF
OFF
Wide
Low
Medium
Medium

[Entertainment72]

Originally Posted by nezff

here are some settings I use. Calibrated with Monster DVD.
Motion Enhancer is standard
Motion Naturalizer OFF
cinemotion OFF

I have everything the same except Motion Enhancer on High..

[Themoth]

I will give these a shot. I have not been happy with auto2 or auto1 on my xbr4. So i will try and see how off works. I have noticed some pixeling with motion and i have it set to high running DTV HD and HDMI. any thought on that?