VC1 and MPEG-2

[BLu-Balls]

I am going to bite the bullet and ask the noob question of what the difference between the two are and if there are anymore different forms of encoding and which one is better and why.

Thank you

[Deciazulado]

noob, () there's MPEG-2, VC-1, and AVC/H.264/MPEG-4 Part 10 (those last 3 are different names for the same thing)

Basically the main difference is that VC-1 and AVC are newer advanced video codecs so they are more efficient (they can shrink the files smaller while retaining quality) and they have new features and tools to make the compression look better which they are learning to use now. MPEG-2 has the advantage that it's matured, looks fine at higher bitrates and is quicker to do (A time is money advantage when making titles)

[BLu-Balls]

Thank you for the info.

[hyperdine]

noob, () there's MPEG-2, VC-1, and AVC/H.264/MPEG-4 Part 10 (those last 3 are different names for the same thing)

Basically the main difference is that VC-1 and AVC are newer advanced video codecs so they are more efficient (they can shrink the files smaller while retaining quality) and they have new features and tools to make the compression look better which they are learning to use now. MPEG-2 has the advantage that it's matured, looks fine at higher bitrates and is quicker to do (A time is money advantage when making titles)

Nice summary

Originally Posted by BLu-Balls

I am going to bite the bullet and ask the noob question of what the difference between the two are and if there are anymore different forms of encoding and which one is better and why.

Don't let anyone try to convince you that one codec produces substantially better picture quality than another. Some of the best High Definition titles in terms of image quality have been encoded with MPEG 2. Kingdom of Heaven is a fine example. I believe Transporter 2 just got a perfect 5 for image quality (another MPEG 2 encoded disc).

[Blackraven]

The new video codecs (MPEG-4 and VC-1) are awesome no doubt. But MPEG-2, despite being older in the game, can still look as good as the newer codecs if the master is done right and the transfer is good.

Ask the D-VHS people and say why MPEG-2 can be just as good as MPEG-4 and VC-1.

[digital.view]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

noob, () there's MPEG-2, VC-1, and AVC/H.264/MPEG-4 Part 10 (those last 3 are different names for the same thing)

Basically the main difference is that VC-1 and AVC are newer advanced video codecs so they are more efficient (they can shrink the files smaller while retaining quality) and they have new features and tools to make the compression look better which they are learning to use now. MPEG-2 has the advantage that it's matured, looks fine at higher bitrates and is quicker to do (A time is money advantage when making titles)

I wonder if they will ever have an official Superbit Blu-ray MPEG2 format. Like Columbia Tristar's (division of Sony) DVD has.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superbit

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by digital.view

I wonder if they will ever have an official Superbit Blu-ray MPEG2 format. Like Columbia Tristar's (division of Sony) DVD has.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superbit

It seems unlikely as the factor of diminishing returns comes into play, with DVD it was not a problem as the bitrate was so low, but with BD the bitrate is so hight hat there would be no point in pumping it any higher on many BD50 releases.

[blitz6speed]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

It seems unlikely as the factor of diminishing returns comes into play, with DVD it was not a problem as the bitrate was so low, but with BD the bitrate is so hight hat there would be no point in pumping it any higher on many BD50 releases.

I severly doubt Superbit is going away anytime soon.

[Deciazulado]

Innocence and Brave Story BDs from Japan are MPEG-2 superbits in a sense.

[PeterTHX]

So is Paramount's "World Trade Center" and also "Legends of Jazz"