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Old 04-25-2008, 05:54 PM   #1
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Default Managed Copy to be absent from final AACS specification

Consumer Electronics Daily reports that Managed Copy will NOT be included in the AACS specification due to be released this summer. MC was originally intended to be a mandatory feature of Blu-ray discs, allowing users the limited, authorized ability to network content, make backups for mobile devices, etc.
A good idea which the powers that be have decided against. Too bad!
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Old 04-25-2008, 07:47 PM   #2
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not according to Paul Sweeting @ ContentAgenda


http://www.contentagenda.com/blog/15...980025498.html
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Old 04-25-2008, 08:00 PM   #3
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None of the studios want you ripping their discs...EVER

The vast majority will disable it, and include PSP/iPod copies

Don't forget this guy is a paid pundit, it's very likely he's on the payroll of people like Microsoft,HP or Kaleidescope (and from the below, probably MS)
They desperitely want to keep MC alive, so they had him issue this counterspin.

Look at previous posts:

http://www.videobusiness.com/article...dustryid=47283

http://www.videobusiness.com/article...dustryid=47283

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SEPT. 14 | Hopes (or fears) that Warner Home Video would drop its support for Blu-ray in return for a pile of cash from the HD DVD camp, thus returning the high-def format war to its original three-to-three studio balance, were dashed this week—at least for now.
http://www.videobusiness.com/article...dustryid=47283

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AUG. 24 | Much has been made that the decision by Paramount and DreamWorks to support HD DVD exclusively was greased by cash payments and “promotional considerations.” While I have no trouble believing that promotional considerations were involved, as an explanation for such a significant step at this stage, it doesn’t add up.
Yup, probably MS. Check out this "column" that reads like a press release

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m..._/ai_n18406341

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By Paul Sweeting LAS VEGAS-Software giant Microsoft has restructured its Windows Digital Media division to give greater focus to its efforts to embed Microsoft technology in emerging home entertainment platforms. Now split into two separate units, one piece will continue to support the Windows operating system business, while the second will focus on the company's digital rights management strategy and on incorporating Microsoft software into consumer electronics devices such as HD DVD players and new portable media players.
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Old 04-25-2008, 08:22 PM   #4
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Way to go Wicky!
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Old 04-25-2008, 08:23 PM   #5
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Don't forget this guy is a paid pundit, it's very likely he's on the payroll of people like Microsoft,HP or Kaleidescope (and from the below, probably MS)
They desperitely want to keep MC alive, so they had him issue this counterspin.
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Great smackdown, Wicky. The internet can be a wonderful thing.
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Old 04-28-2008, 05:14 PM   #6
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No disagreement that Paul Sweeting is one of the least credible people on the subject. On the other hand I always believed MMC was a bad idea (that would obviously be fought by studios) and just a marketing ploy. But I Hope that it is a mistake and MC will be a part of AACS and I don't see (assuming it actually works) any reason why anyone would be against it.
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:25 PM   #7
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But I Hope that it is a mistake and MC will be a part of AACS and I don't see (assuming it actually works) any reason why anyone would be against it.
PC Blu-ray playback software has already been responsible for nearly all security breaches thus far. Software that must decrypt then re-encrypt is just inviting more.
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Old 04-28-2008, 09:31 PM   #8
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true, but the PC vulnerability is there with or without MC. The big difference is that it becomes a studio decision so MC should not have the same issues as MMC (for starters, maybe studios would decide to only allow the MC if there is no decryption- i.e. he MC playback device has AACS, BD+ and a third HDD based copy protection added on top of it). On the other hand (I just read) according to HMM it is MMC and not MC that is dead.
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...p?startpage=14

my issue with MMC is that it added nothing (let's face it if a studio did not want you to buy the MC all they needed to do is price it way too high. For example, Will anyone MC a disk if it costs 1M$ to make a copy?) while it could screw up the content provider (what happens with rentals? what happens 10 years after the movie comes out, and the person decides to use his MC....) in the end MMC had nothing to do with benefits to consumers and everything to do with marketing for companies like MS. They could tell people to buy Vista media centre because you can copy all your movies to the HDD and never need to get up and put in the disk (while not telling you that some MCs will be priced extremely high so that you don't use it).

In then end, I am sure, the ones willing to give a digital copy for free will have some benefits to do it through some kind of MC. At least then they might know where it is copied and how many times.
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Old 05-03-2008, 03:13 AM   #9
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Another HMM article:

"AACS: Managed Copy Still in Play"

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/new...ticle_id=12611
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