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Old 06-03-2008, 12:58 AM   #1
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Okay, so I just picked up Semi-Pro today on Blu-ray and it is yet another 2-disc edition. The movie is on one disc and the extras on the other. I thought blu-ray was supposed to have superior storage capacity? Why do we need two discs then? Whats the deal????
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:35 AM   #2
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Okay, so I just picked up Semi-Pro today on Blu-ray and it is yet another 2-disc edition. The movie is on one disc and the extras on the other. I thought blu-ray was supposed to have superior storage capacity? Why do we need two discs then? Whats the deal????
I don't like it either. but consider this: nearly all the features on 2 Disc DVD is being presented in top AVC codec, and in PCM (possibly). If all of them in DVD-quality, it would fit BD easily - but this is BD quality. From my experience, a movie which is released in 2 DVDs and 1BD lost some extras in BD version. An example is Devil Wears Prada - lost all of featurettes.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:56 AM   #3
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The difference in production price between a 1 disc and 2 disc product is about $2.

The superior storage space means all the more can fit on 2 discs. That way producers can optimize bitrates on the film and still have hi-def extras.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:00 AM   #4
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More room for the main feature audio and video to 'breathe'.
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:25 AM   #5
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Jeez. More of this kind of crap?


Only stupid idiots will insist on having everything forced onto only 1 stinking disc. That really goes against the standard that Blu-ray has set. If everything really needed to be compressed as much as possible so everything would fit nice and tidy on one single disc then HD-DVD might as well have won. Thankfully, more reasonable brains prevailed on that matter.

Multi-disc movies are a reality regardless of the format. Learn to live with them. Forcing everything onto one disc degrades the freaking quality. It's one thing if the amount of extras is pretty low. But for something like the upcoming Transformers Blu-ray, the audio and video quality of the movie would be affected rather badly by forcing everything onto one disc.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:08 AM   #6
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Only stupid idiots will insist on having everything forced onto only 1 stinking disc.
There was a nicer way to phrase that, but clearly you decided to go the other route.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:10 AM   #7
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I welcome the 2 disks! The people who want max bitrate for audio and video are happy because the first disk can be used for that. Those that want extras are happy because the second disk has the extras!

I would say everybody is happy with that, but well, I AM posting in a topic complaining about it.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:33 PM   #8
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There was a nicer way to phrase that, but clearly you decided to go the other route.
I agree there was a nicer way to say it. However, the "we need everything to fit on one disc" mindset does not deserve that courtesy at all. I'll provide less blunt reactions to more sensible topics.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:39 PM   #9
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the more the marrier guys
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Only stupid idiots will insist on having everything forced onto only 1 stinking disc.
As opposed to the smart ones?
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:33 PM   #11
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You're suggesting there's such a thing as a "smart idiot?" Kind of a contradiction in terms; an oxymoron.
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Okay, so I just picked up Semi-Pro today on Blu-ray and it is yet another 2-disc edition. The movie is on one disc and the extras on the other. I thought blu-ray was supposed to have superior storage capacity? Why do we need two discs then? Whats the deal????
Simple: Keep the movie on its own disc (maximising the available space and bandwidth) for best picture and sound quality (lossleess audio and high bit-rate video), and put the extras (preferably in HD) on the other disc.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:45 PM   #13
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i always wonder why 2 disc special. but its kool to have them..
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You're suggesting there's such a thing as a "smart idiot?" Kind of a contradiction in terms; an oxymoron.
smart idiot = moron?
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Old 06-03-2008, 08:47 PM   #15
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Because there are so many special features that it either wouldn't fit on 1 disc and since they are having to use a second disc it might as well be in high-def, or some people may have requested the special features to be in high-def as well. I actually prefer 2 discs because that means there are more special features. Yes, you are paying a little more but it's only like $2 or $3.
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:25 PM   #16
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Jeez. More of this kind of crap?



Multi-disc movies are a reality regardless of the format. Learn to live with them. Forcing everything onto one disc degrades the freaking quality. It's one thing if the amount of extras is pretty low. But for something like the upcoming Transformers Blu-ray, the audio and video quality of the movie would be affected rather badly by forcing everything onto one disc.
well no cos on average the film is on a BD50 and the extras on a BD25 so if they make the BD75 for a reasnable enough price then you could have both on one disc without ANY loss in quality
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:49 PM   #17
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How come a multi-disc bluray play or even DVD player has never been released!?
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:57 PM   #18
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How come a multi-disc bluray play or even DVD player has never been released!?
Actually, there are quite a few multi-disc DVD players. I happen to have a Pioneer three-disc DVD-V630. The granddaddy is Sony's 400-disc DVP-CX995V.

I expect multi-disc Blu-ray players to be available once BD becomes more mainstream.
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How come a multi-disc bluray play or even DVD player has never been released!?
My 5 disc DVD player is still hooked up to my system for CDs.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:18 PM   #20
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I expect multi-disc Blu-ray players to be available once BD becomes more mainstream.
And people wonder why Americans are fat...

As for the OP's question, for one thing, it's been said multiple times over that consumers feel they're getting something special/more for their money with two disc editions compared to one.

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