reciever advice please....

[408royalty]

is a denon avr 2308 for $497.00 worth it? Will it give me everything I need for lossless audio? Im using a sony s1 player and an sxrd60br2. And if this is a good deal what's the cheapest speakers I can buy for now because this is going to leave me broke.please help with advice I'm actually at the store right now typing on my iphone. Thank you in advance for your knowledge

[Colglizity]

That's a fantastic price for that receiver. It is probably that cheap because their **09 models are due to start showing up in July. It will not decode the newer blu-ray audio formats (Dolby TrueHD & DTS HD MA), but it will decode PCM 5.1 and maybe PCM 7.1. If you were using a PS3 as your blu-ray player and using an HDMI cable, it would not be a big deal because the PS3 can decode the new audio formats internally and sent it out as PCM to your Denon. With your S1, I'm not sure... if it can do True HD and DTS HD MA and your using a HDMI, It'll probably work. As far as speakers go, give me a budget for speakers and possibly a total budget for the whole package and we may be able to give you some better options... We're glad to help.

[408royalty]

ok I just found an onkyo 805 open box for $499.00 witch one do I go for and my speaker budget is 200.00-300.00 thank you for your help

[Colglizity]

It looks like your Sony S1 can decode PCM, TrueHD, but not DTS MA... Between these receivers and your player I am leaning a bit towards recommending the 805. If you want my honest opinion, and I think many others on this site would agree with me, I would purchase a receiver that is a little less expensive, therefor giving you a better speaker budget. You can get a receiver that decodes all the latest audio formats and still have plenty of power for about $350. Whether it is the Onkyo 605, Yamaha 663(which I have and love even thought I haven't upgraded my speakers yet) and there are other options as well. Buying an 805 and setting up some mediocre speakers would be a waste of all that power IMO.

[Colglizity]

Here's a good setup I think you'd be pretty happy with within your stated (I added) budget. You can get the Yamaha 663 for $350 on certain sites and I've heard good things about this speaker set, including in Home Theater Magazine for about $500 including subwoofer.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ghlight=yamaha

http://www.hometheatersound.com/equi...ke_classic.htm

[Driver_King]

Originally Posted by 408royalty

ok I just found an onkyo 805 open box for $499.00 witch one do I go for and my speaker budget is 200.00-300.00 thank you for your help

You found an open-box for 805? Go for it totally! That's a really good deal for a reciever that used to cost $1100. The Yamaha is comparable to the 605, but the 805 is in a class all its own. Get this for $200. It's a great package deal!

[Riff Magnum]

Originally Posted by Driver_King

You found an open-box for 805? Go for it totally! That's a really good deal for a reciever that used to cost $1100. The Yamaha is comparable to the 605, but the 805 is in a class all its own. Get this for $200. It's a great package deal!

Wow, those polks are cheap as all get out, but wouldn't the 805 be a little bit of overkill for those speakers. The Yammy 663 is cheaper and seems to be more in line with a HTIB setup.

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by 408royalty

ok I just found an onkyo 805 open box for $499.00 witch one do I go for and my speaker budget is 200.00-300.00 thank you for your help

You want to buy a $500 AVR, and spend $2-$300 on speakers?

Just a little weird allocation of funds.

[MacDaddyOJack]

Originally Posted by 408royalty

ok I just found an onkyo 805 open box for $499.00 witch one do I go for and my speaker budget is 200.00-300.00 thank you for your help

You need to be spending more than that on EACH SPEAKER in order to take full advantage of a reciever like that. You won't hear any difference between the 605 and the 805 with a $300 set of speakers.

[Driver_King]

Well, sure, but if he ever decides to upgrade his speakers, he probably will. Plus you get more features that help you get the most out of your setup. I don't think it makes sense to buy a lesser quality receiver just because the speakers aren't audiophile quality.

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by Driver_King

Well, sure, but if he ever decides to upgrade his speakers, he probably will. Plus you get more features that help you get the most out of your setup. I don't think it makes sense to buy a lesser quality receiver just because the speakers aren't audiophile quality.

By the time he's ready to upgrade the speakers, that receiver will have a street price of $100


EDIT: that may be an exaggeration.... but you get the gist of it..... to "get the most" from his audio... the speakers are the part of the equation that has the largest affect on the sound that reaches your ears. You can get my receiver for $500 now, and I'd consider it "adequate" for pushing my speakers..... and my speakers are pretty nice in my opinion. The speakers are the great equalizer in my opinion.

[408royalty]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

You want to buy a $500 AVR, and spend $2-$300 on speakers?

Just a little weird allocation of funds.

i see what you mean but i hear alot of good things about the 805 and i thought it was a good deal so i went for it. i'll upgrade my speakers in a decent amount of time (before my receiver is worthless).i also have 30 days to take the polks back if i dont like them. may be i'll take them back and re-buy them every 30 days untill im ready to upgrade lol!!

[Driver_King]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

You want to buy a $500 AVR, and spend $2-$300 on speakers?

Just a little weird allocation of funds.

That Polk package used to cost $600. That's not a bad deal. They're good quality too. You know, I actually think that the Onkyo 605 might be worth $100 to $200 in a few months, but probably not the 805. The 805 is an awesome reciever. He also got a great deal on it. It beats going out to get an 805 a year after you get a lesser quality reciever, like I did.

[prerich]

Originally Posted by Driver_King

That Polk package used to cost $600. That's not a bad deal. They're good quality too. You know, I actually think that the Onkyo 605 might be worth $100 to $200 in a few years, but probably not the 805. The 805 is an awesome reciever. He also got a great deal on it. It beats going out to get an 805 a year after you get a lesser quality reciever, like I did.

The 605 is on its way to being worth $100-200 in a few months, not years (you can get a new 605 for 299 or less). Electronics depreciate faster than any other part of our systems (speakers and power amps tend to hold their value much longer). I remember my Fosgate Audionics Model 3A THX prepro - It went from 4500.00 to 1500.00 in a matter of 1.5 years?! Look how fast the FAP-T1 depreciated, (Lexicons are even starting to loose their value too). The 805 will be able to be had for about $200.00 -300.00 by Feb-Mar 09. My Yamaha RX-V663...I'd be lucky to get $150 for it in Mar of 09. But my MX-830's I can get $300.00 easy for them and they're over 10 years old and I could get over 500.00 for my TA-N80ES amp. To the OP, I say spend the money on speakers - they last longer and they don't change greatly often - and you can still get a good deal of coin back when you do sell them.

[Driver_King]

Originally Posted by prerich

The 605 is on its way to being worth $100-200 in a few months, not years (you can get a new 605 for 299 or less). Electronics depreciate faster than any other part of our systems (speakers and power amps tend to hold their value much longer). I remember my Fosgate Audionics Model 3A THX prepro - It went from 4500.00 to 1500.00 in a matter of 1.5 years?! Look how fast the FAP-T1 depreciated, (Lexicons are even starting to loose their value too). The 805 will be able to be had for about $200.00 -300.00 by Feb-Mar 09. My Yamaha RX-V663...I'd be lucky to get $150 for it in Mar of 09. But my MX-830's I can get $300.00 easy for them and they're over 10 years old and I could get over 500.00 for my TA-N80ES amp. To the OP, I say spend the money on speakers - they last longer and they don't change greatly often - and you can still get a good deal of coin back when you do sell them.

Oh crap, I meant months. Yeah, recievers depreciate in value all the time but at the same time, you could wait that extra year to get that same reciever for the lower price, but then a new reciever will have come out by then. Unfortuanately, that's how electronics are. It's the circle of life.

[crackinhedz]

many places already stopped selling the 605.

[Driver_King]

Probably because the 606 came out...