Is Blu-ray Sony's trump card for future exclusive games?

[Ippiki Okami]

Anyone remember on a GameTrailers episode, 2 sony reps laughing like school girls at the question of Gears of War 3 being either exclusive to the PS3 or being made multiplat?

They said it has to because it would only be possible on blu ray, or microsoft would have to pay them disk and drive royalties if microsoft made an xbox blu ray system

What do you guys think humm??

[Proteus]

It's a no brainer that GeoW3 will be on PS3. Microsoft only licensed the title for two iterations and, given it's success, it's _extremely_ unlikely that Microsoft could pony up the $$$ (it would take probably over 400 million at least to keep it) to hold onto it (unlike Halo where they bought the whole license right off that bat and own it completely).

With what GeoW2 is showing and promising right now, I think it's pretty obvious that to take it much farther they need Bluray. Dude Huge has always said that Gears is 'maxing out the 360 hardware' even after the first one... He also said that they were going to make the second one a little longer. I doubt they could make it too much longer without major HD install or multiple DVDs at this point and that can potentially alienate a lot of 360 'core' users.

Who knows. But, I'm 100% certain GeoW3 will be on PS3... Can't say if it will be exclusive, forced exclusive due to content, better or what. But, it will be on PS3.

[Ippiki Okami]

Originally Posted by Proteus

It's a no brainer that GeoW3 will be on PS3. Microsoft only licensed the title for two iterations and, given it's success, it's _extremely_ unlikely that Microsoft could pony up the $$$ (it would take probably over 400 million at least to keep it) to hold onto it (unlike Halo where they bought the whole license right off that bat and own it completely).

With what GeoW2 is showing and promising right now, I think it's pretty obvious that to take it much farther they need Bluray. Dude Huge has always said that Gears is 'maxing out the 360 hardware' even after the first one... He also said that they were going to make the second one a little longer. I doubt they could make it too much longer without major HD install or multiple DVDs at this point and that can potentially alienate a lot of 360 'core' users.

Who knows. But, I'm 100% certain GeoW3 will be on PS3... Can't say if it will be exclusive, forced exclusive due to content, better or what. But, it will be on PS3.

Sweet!..thats what I thought!

PS3 FTW

[kingofgrills]

I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell that Gears of War will ever make it onto the PS3. Considering how critical the title has been for the 360, Microsoft will make sure to keep it a 360 exclusive. I think it's especially true given how weak Microsoft's first party software efforts have been.

I'd love to see it, but I'd be shocked if it ever happened.

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by kingofgrills

I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell that Gears of War will ever make it onto the PS3. Considering how critical the title has been for the 360, Microsoft will make sure to keep it a 360 exclusive. I think it's especially true given how weak Microsoft's first party software efforts have been.

I'd love to see it, but I'd be shocked if it ever happened.

its too early to tell.

if geow 2 doesn't sell a ton of hardware, which it probabaly won't because people have already bought a 360 for Bioshock, Halo 3, Gears of War, etc. then look for MS to let the series go multi-plat. The PS3 version would easily sell 4 million copies by the time a 3rd GeoW comes out, which is gonna cost Epic around a quarter of a billion if they don't release it on PS3 or its gonna cost MS a quarter of a billion to remberse Epic for not putting it on PS3.

Thats a lot of dough for something that really won't sell that many consoles.

especially considering how late GEOW will be in the console war. the next gen systems will be only a year or two away.

[Ippiki Okami]

Originally Posted by kingofgrills

I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell that Gears of War will ever make it onto the PS3. Considering how critical the title has been for the 360, Microsoft will make sure to keep it a 360 exclusive. I think it's especially true given how weak Microsoft's first party software efforts have been.

I'd love to see it, but I'd be shocked if it ever happened.

How shocked?....Final Fantasy XIII to xbox360 shocked?

but really, that would be hilarious if it happend. Specially since EPIC/Clif B had a hand in the development of the xbox 360!

[Proteus]

Maybe Maxpower will re-post his synopsis of the actual numbers on this.

I totally agree with him though. There's no way any future GeoW's after part two will be 360 exclusive.

[Cidien]

Man I really hate these arguments. It HAS to be on ps3 because the 360 can't handle it! What exactly can't the 360 handle? Name me a game. MGS4? Psh. They could port it on a few discs. And please no, "but you have to change discs, haha" crap. Ya, and you gotta sit for 10 mins to install every chapter. I'd be happy to unload my ps3 copy for a 360 copy just so I don't have to wait to play my game for 10 minutes every hour and a half.

Seriously, name me a game. Because GeoW was the best looking game out there for a very long time, and geow2 looks like it's going to become the best looking game out there once again.

As I always state, I'm not anti ps3, i'm anti irrational ps3 fanboy. I'm sorry, your system isn't this super sweet machine of awesomeness that outshines the 360 at every turn. I know you wish it was, but it isn't. Even in the future when they finally learn how to develop for the system, there isn't going to be a big difference between the systems. Some of you people like to pretend there's this huge difference like between console generations. There was a more noticable difference between ps2 and xbox than between ps3 and 360.

And a little more on topic, geow3 will probably in fact be on both systems. No reason for them not to. More systems = more money unless someone pays them a lot to go exclusive.

[Icemage]

3rd party exclusive titles are going to be extremely rare from now on (except for the Wii, whose peculiar control scheme and weaker hardware is both a blessing and a curse). Gears 3 on PS3 is at least a possibility, and we know Unreal Engine 3 certainly works fine on the PS3, so the coding aspect shouldn't be an issue.

Even so, I suspect that Microsoft will move heaven and earth to keep that franchise exclusive, especially since their own internal development hasn't been all that amazing (lolRare) aside from the no-longer-internal Bungie and Bizarre.

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Originally Posted by Cidien

Man I really hate these arguments. It HAS to be on ps3 because the 360 can't handle it! What exactly can't the 360 handle? Name me a game. MGS4? Psh. They could port it on a few discs. And please no, "but you have to change discs, haha" crap. Ya, and you gotta sit for 10 mins to install every chapter. I'd be happy to unload my ps3 copy for a 360 copy just so I don't have to wait to play my game for 10 minutes every hour and a half.

Seriously, name me a game. Because GeoW was the best looking game out there for a very long time, and geow2 looks like it's going to become the best looking game out there once again.

As I always state, I'm not anti ps3, i'm anti irrational ps3 fanboy. I'm sorry, your system isn't this super sweet machine of awesomeness that outshines the 360 at every turn. I know you wish it was, but it isn't. Even in the future when they finally learn how to develop for the system, there isn't going to be a big difference between the systems. Some of you people like to pretend there's this huge difference like between console generations. There was a more noticable difference between ps2 and xbox than between ps3 and 360.

And a little more on topic, geow3 will probably in fact be on both systems. No reason for them not to. More systems = more money unless someone pays them a lot to go exclusive.

The fact that you said they could just put MGS4 on multiple discs tells me you have no idea what's going on between the 50GB BD and the HDD during the game. If there were no CPU issues that would prevent MGS4 from being on the X360, the X360 version would have to not only swap discs but load them on the HDD as well. MGS4 can NOT be done in it's current form on the X360 for a number of reasons. Just accept it.

According to the detailed GG developer presentation, KZ2 could not be done on the X360. That's due to the forward and deferred rendering engines using 4 processors to generate amazing 720p graphics. KZ2 is beyond anything on or coming to the X360. There will be more. MAG will most likely not possible on the X360. The audio from these 1st/2nd party games can't even be done on the X360. Will you accept it or continue to live in denial?

The main things are audio and video. MGS4 and KZ2 are beyond the X360 in these areas.

If you want, we can make a list of console features and see which one is longer. That's the logical way of doing this. Then, we can go to the internal component as well.

[saprano]

Owned.....go home now.

[Cidien]

Ya know what, never mind. I've argued before and brought up a lot more technical facts than this and still people spit at me. Just, never mind.

I would like to yet again point out that i'm not a 360 fanboy. I do prefer the system, but i'm not a fanboy. Just irritates me when people put the ps3 on a freakin pedestal like it's the end all gaming platform.

[reiella]

Originally Posted by Cidien

Ya know what, never mind. I've argued before and brought up a lot more technical facts than this and still people spit at me. Just, never mind.

I would like to yet again point out that i'm not a 360 fanboy. I do prefer the system, but i'm not a fanboy. Just irritates me when people put the ps3 on a freakin pedestal like it's the end all gaming platform.

Argument by authority by proxy, nice.

[Cidien]

Originally Posted by reiella

Argument by authority by proxy, nice.

Pretty much. I just realized, why argue. I havn't argued on boards about anything like this in a long time. Dunno why I let people irritate me so much lately. You could show someone with documented evidence how you're 100% right on the internet and still not convince anyone of anything.

[Proteus]

Well, when it comes to the Cell Ascended usually has his ducks in a pretty tight row.

I'm pretty certain that GeoW3 will hit PS3, as I already stated, but there is always that .01% and that just happens to be the 'Gears is a trilogy' fact. Might be odd to break up the trilogy between systems. Then again, I don't remember much story at all in GeoW!

[dereksworl]

Originally Posted by Cidien

Man I really hate these arguments. It HAS to be on ps3 because the 360 can't handle it! What exactly can't the 360 handle? Name me a game. MGS4? Psh. They could port it on a few discs. And please no, "but you have to change discs, haha" crap. Ya, and you gotta sit for 10 mins to install every chapter. I'd be happy to unload my ps3 copy for a 360 copy just so I don't have to wait to play my game for 10 minutes every hour and a half.

10 min installs! i can tell you never even played MGS4, because you clearly dont know what you're talking about. the very first time you put in the game the install is only 8 mins. every install after that is only 2-3 mins

[Ippiki Okami]

Originally Posted by dereksworl

10 min installs! i can tell you never even played MGS4, because you clearly dont know what you're talking about. the very first time you put in the game the install is only 8 mins. every install after that is only 2-3 mins

Speaking of Metal Gear Solid 4 installs, does anyone think if Kojima started the game a year later it wouldnt have had as many installs or are all games this big going to need alot of installs??

[dereksworl]

Originally Posted by MEXI_FES

Speaking of Metal Gear Solid 4 installs, does anyone think if Kojima started the game a year later it wouldnt have had as many installs or are all games this big going to need alot of installs??

I know the installs help the game run smoother and help cut down load time. could he have had one large maditory install for the whole game? probably so, but i think it would have took up too much HDD space. So i think the chapter by chapter overwriting installs was the better move.

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by Cidien

You could show someone with documented evidence how you're 100% right on the internet and still not convince anyone of anything.

You are using the same argument HD DVD users did. "All releases on both are equal, therefore it's not possible for you to have a better version."

I'm not going to say Metal Gear Solid 4: Twin Snakes edition couldn't be done on 360. But the engine as is is said to use 8 threads, which is impossible on 360, so the engine would have to be tweaked, period.

[reiella]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

You are using the same argument HD DVD users did. "All releases on both are equal, therefore it's not possible for you to have a better version."

I'm not going to say Metal Gear Solid 4: Twin Snakes edition couldn't be done on 360. But the engine as is is said to use 8 threads, which is impossible on 360, so the engine would have to be tweaked, period.

Erm. Not quite.

You can have more than a single thread running on a single processor at a time. It's really closer to virtualizing, but the PC had been doing that for quite some time until the recent outbreaks of multi-core for home PCs.