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Old 08-01-2008, 05:46 AM   #1
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I guess John Carmack is seeing a little bit of the light with the PS3's Blu ray player as an interview with him he indicates that his new game "Rage" will look worse on the Xbox 360 because it will need to be compressed on 2 discs.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53976

If I'm not mistaken, didn't Carmack slam the PS3 either earlier this year on late last year?
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Old 08-01-2008, 05:54 AM   #2
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Carmack is full of contradictions. He's been so bent on bad mouthing the PS3's architecture and abilities, I wouldn't be surprised if he sabotages the PS3 version of Rage in some way.

Right now, he's just trying to get MS to lower the fees for using a 3rd disc on the X360 version.
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Old 08-01-2008, 05:56 AM   #3
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I guess John Carmack is seeing a little bit of the light with the PS3's Blu ray player as an interview with him he indicates that his new game "Rage" will look worse on the Xbox 360 because it will need to be compressed on 2 discs.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53976

If I'm not mistaken, didn't Carmack slam the PS3 either earlier this year on late last year?
Wasn't Carmack. That was Gabe Newell of Valve (who hates the PS3 more than probably any developer).

Carmack's been pretty comfortable with the PS3 actually.
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Old 08-01-2008, 06:05 AM   #4
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Wasn't Carmack. That was Gabe Newell of Valve (who hates the PS3 more than probably any developer).

Carmack's been pretty comfortable with the PS3 actually.
Nope.

http://news.soft32.com/john-carmack-...-ps3_1432.html

http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/...uake_Wars.html

He said the PS3 just had peak performance over the X360. Even that seems to look more and more like an big understatement with games like Killzone 2 barely using more than 4 SPEs.

He is also the same guy that claimed the PS3 development costs can be 5 times more than X360 development. Yet, Insomnaic pushes out a game every year.

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...hp?story=12351

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I’ve been pulling for Microsoft...
That kind of says it all.

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Old 08-01-2008, 06:35 AM   #5
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Give 'em time, they will all eventually realize they have been f*cking up by using the 360 as main dev system.
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Nope.

http://news.soft32.com/john-carmack-...-ps3_1432.html

http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/...uake_Wars.html

He said the PS3 just had peak performance over the X360. Even that seems to look more and more like an big understatement with games like Killzone 2 barely using more than 4 SPEs.

He is also the same guy that claimed the PS3 development costs can be 5 times more than X360 development. Yet, Insomnaic pushes out a game every year.

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...hp?story=12351


That kind of says it all.
Those are what I remember reading about. Thanks I couldn't remember where I saw these at.
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Old 08-01-2008, 06:44 AM   #7
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Give 'em time, they will all eventually realize they have been f*cking up by using the 360 as main dev system.
I agree!
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I guess John Carmack is seeing a little bit of the light with the PS3's Blu ray player as an interview with him he indicates that his new game "Rage" will look worse on the Xbox 360 because it will need to be compressed on 2 discs.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53976

If I'm not mistaken, didn't Carmack slam the PS3 either earlier this year on late last year?
Its possible they could work it out with MS and get it on more discs, and then you could just do a HD install, and not have to worry about disc swaps.
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Its possible they could work it out with MS and get it on more discs, and then you could just do a HD install, and not have to worry about disc swaps.
EDIT: n/m read your post wrong

This is a ploy im sure to get MS to pay for more discs for the game.

Threaten to make the 360 version worse and they will gladly write a check to even the playing field,.

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Old 08-01-2008, 01:33 PM   #10
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I wonder how many people with the arcade would actually buy that game though?
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Old 08-01-2008, 04:11 PM   #11
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Microsoft doesn't care about Arcade owners, other than that they want every arcade owner to go buy one of their ridiculously overpriced proprietary hard drives.
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Carmack is full of contradictions. He's been so bent on bad mouthing the PS3's architecture and abilities, I wouldn't be surprised if he sabotages the PS3 version of Rage in some way.

Right now, he's just trying to get MS to lower the fees for using a 3rd disc on the X360 version.

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This is exactly it. He's just talking trash to get M$ to lower his licensing fees. Sounds to me like he wants the game licensed on a 'per IP' basis instead of a 'per disc' basis. Leveraging.

He's still a douche and is showing how utterly out of touch he's become with gaming and technology lately.
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EDIT: n/m read your post wrong

This is a ploy im sure to get MS to pay for more discs for the game.

Threaten to make the 360 version worse and they will gladly write a check to even the playing field,.
Totally agree. He probably knows that M$ doesn't want to see him promoting their biggest rival. But I am hopeful that he, along with other developers start to favor the PS3 when developing their games.

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Old 08-01-2008, 07:30 PM   #14
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Give 'em time, they will all eventually realize they have been f*cking up by using the 360 as main dev system.
they only do this cause it's way easier to develope on a cpu than the cell....
But once they learn the cell, hopefully that will change..
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