Is PS3 carrying Blu-Ray?

[ThePhantomOak]

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/pos...pt_On_PS3.html

I would not doubt it for a second. My dad having just started asking questions about PS3 when he was looking to buy a BD player (he did not buy a stand alone because of price -- for some people picture and sound is not worth adjusting a retirement budget)

My second point would be that PS3 owners KNOW that PS3 has one thing that no other consol has (BD) so why not show it off? It is not worth having unless you use it. I know I bought my first 5 BD's to show off... Planet Earth? I would have NEVER touched that on DVD, and I never watch it alone, but I always break it out for people that are not in BD's grip...

Anyway, I think that if it is true, it is funny how many posters on the other Blu-ray.com forums flame PS3 owners for not being "real" movie fans...

[TheJesus]

Originally Posted by ThePhantomOak

Anyway, I think that if it is true, it is funny how many posters on the other Blu-ray.com forums flame PS3 owners for not being "real" movie fans...

I have never seen anybody say this. I bought a PS3 for the sole purpose of using it as a blu-ray player. I haven't purchased any games for it. In my opinion it's the best player out there, especially if you take in to account its media streaming capabilities.

[ThePhantomOak]

Here are two that I could find off hand from the Blu-ray Movies and Releases forum

Originally Posted by EricJ

You will believe that George C. Scott can do comedy.

(Y'know, catalog announcements like this past week are the kind you just wait for the PS3 kids to chime in and say "Never heard of it...Is it, like, funnier than 'Superbad'?", just so you can get their first-time reaction, after educating the new generation on the Classics.)

Originally Posted by OokieSpookie

I kind of blame the fact that people who would never normally be involved in blu yet if it was not the PS3 get herded in along side real movie fans but all and all it is what helped blu win so I can not complain much.

[Entertainment72]

Originally Posted by ThePhantomOak

(he did not buy a stand alone because of price -- for some people picture and sound is not worth adjusting a retirement budget)

PS3 is second to none, don't believe the hype.. standalones must make up stories due to price and etc. to justify their existence.

I purchased my PS3 primarily as a BD movie player. Blu won because of the PS3.

[ThePhantomOak]

Originally Posted by Entertainment72

PS3 is second to none, don't believe the hype.. standalones must make up stories due to price and etc. to justify their existence.

I purchased my PS3 primarily as a BD movie player. Blu won because of the PS3.

That is what my dad wanted to do, but at the time he could pick up a standalone for less than a PS3 and it was still not worth it to him (the standalone, of course, did not have 2.0) I am saying at the cheeper price, it was not worth it for him to change his budget...


BTW, Maybe the problem is that PS3 is the best BD player. Many people I have talked to say it is a game machine (uninformed masses ) and that is why they would not buy it to be a BD player. Then they hear how good a BD player it is, and who knows what petty thoughts run through their little minds...

I dunno... Bottom line is it is amazing how fast BD has grown (when looking at how slow DVD was to grow) and if it is mainly due to PS3, that is nuts.

[dereksworl]

Originally Posted by Entertainment72

PS3 is second to none, don't believe the hype.. standalones must make up stories due to price and etc. to justify their existence.

I purchased my PS3 primarily as a BD movie player. Blu won because of the PS3.

I dont know how true it is, but i heard a standalone player did score higher than the PS3 in the visual dept. 2 as a matter of fact. one was a Sammy. and the other was a Philips. can you beleive that

[Marine Mike]

Well the only way that I was able to convince my wife to get a PS3 was because we were shopping for a Blu-Ray player and it was the best on the market.

[saprano]

That artical is strait bullshit and coming fron g4 im not surprised. blu-ray has been out for 2 damn years what the f do you expect? its not going to sell millions right away.

The same happend with dvd, the same thing happens with any new technology. can you like uhhh......give it time? yes the ps3 help win the format war but Blu-ray is NOT struggling it just starting out.

[Nerdkiller likes BD]

Well we all knew that the PS3 carried BD when it was released, now it seems like it's now BD that is carrying the PS3 with Rage coming out on 2 discs on the 360 while with the power of BD there is only one disc required.

I do believe that that it was the PS3 alone that helped push BD to victory agains't HD DVD. I mean, I do believe that HD DVD had enough space for HD video but for audio, naa ah.

[jkwest]

The PS3 didn't carry Blu-Ray...the PS3 is Blu-Ray.

[ToonyLoons]

The PS3 was a leading factor in the win over HD-DVD and was a big help to the Blu-ray format over all. It has been the most versatile player thus far and has many extra features to boot. For the longest time, it was also the cheapest option to get into Blu-ray for many movie fans.

The PS3 did carry Blu-ray for a while, but it is only because of how good the PS3 is as an overall entertainment system. It is no fault to the quality of Blu-ray but more so of the price of going HD. If you do not have a HDTV, why would you feel the need to go out and buy HD movies or an HD movie player? Also with new release DVDs retailing at least $10 less then the Blu-ray version, it is an expense most people do not want to give in to.

As we move further into the HD era of entertainment, we will continue to see the rise of the Blu-ray format. When more players come out that support profile 2.0 and cost less then a PS3, you will again see a boom in sales for players and movies. I think the format will struggle in the mass market until we see movies drop $5-10 and players in the sub $200 range. It was the same for DVD and will be the same for the next format.

I can say for myself that I would most likely not be part of Blu-ray if it was not for the PS3. That does not mean that I would have gone for HD-DVD either. I am happy with Blu-ray and almost exclusively support the format almost never buying DVDs. I will probably not buy a standalone BD player but that is not saying much. I never brought a standalone DVD player. All my DVD players were apart of another piece of equipment I purchased.

[DaMexiRican]

I agree that you will see it really take off when players and movies get cheaper. Some of the prices for movies are crazy. I usually buy blu movies when I can find them under $20. But over that, like around 30, I'll just wait it out. I.E. I've been wanting to get "The Orphanage" but can't find it anywhere cheap. I even looked on half.com and new and used copies are going for 30 or more for this movie.

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by MiguelitoDaMexiRican

I agree that you will see it really take off when players and movies get cheaper. Some of the prices for movies are crazy. I usually buy blu movies when I can find them under $20. But over that, like around 30, I'll just wait it out. I.E. I've been wanting to get "The Orphanage" but can't find it anywhere cheap. I even looked on half.com and new and used copies are going for 30 or more for this movie.

thats a tough one to find.

one of my biggest worries is people see ridiculous prices at retailers and don't realize blus can be found for much cheaper in other places.

A J6P walking through Walmart sees TWBB for $30, a Batman cartoon for $25 and some other movies in that range and there is no wonder why he is scarred to take the plunge. He sees blu-ray as something only for the die hard movie fans and can never see himself paying those kind of prices for movies.

[Bobby Henderson]

I bought my 80GB PS3 for the main purpose of playing Blu-ray Disc movies on my new 52" Sony XBR4 TV.

The multi-media functions of the 80GB model are nice. It's a shame Sony couldn't incorporate something as simple as flash card slots into every model. I like taking the CF card out of my Canon D-SLR camera, putting into the PS3 and instantly shuffling through my photos. SACD playback is a nice feature. The media streaming features are pretty cool. I'm going to rip my entire CD collection to an external hard drive and hook it up to the PS3 like a jukebox of sorts.

Of course, the PS3 is great for gaming. I have Call of Duty 4, Burnout Paradise and the MotorStorm game that came bundled with the system. Downloaded SuperStardustHD and Q-bert 2.0 from the Playstation store. Lots of fun. But I still use the PS3 mainly to watch movies.

There's nothing wrong at all with the Blu-ray video playback quality on PS3. The folks extolling the virtues of standalone players must be imagining something. The ability to bitstream Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD audio is the only plus I see with certain standalone players. But it's a very minor advantage given PS3 can internally decode both and output both in full 7.1 mode.

The "real movie fans" comments are pretty laughable.

Deliberately choosing a standalone BD player over the PS3 does NOT make someone a dedicated movie fan.

IMHO, a true movie fan is someone who actively learns about the movie industry and its history, seeks out quality films of many different genres, seeks out independent films in addition to the big budget Hollywood fare and makes some considerable effort of seeing movies in real movie theaters instead of just sitting on his butt watching movies exclusively in his living room.

Some of the folks bashing PS3 owners (such as myself) as not being "real movie fans" fall far short of my tougher definition of a true movie fan.

Oh, one more thing, I noticed the fellow who wrote the linked news article claiming Blu-ray movie sales were "struggling." I think that's a matter of perspective. Compared to the numbers 6 months ago or 1 year ago the sales numbers are a LOT BETTER. Blu-ray movie disc sales are trending upward while DVD is in a state of decline. I believe Blu-ray movie and player sales are going to spike upward this fall, thanks in part to a crop of "summer movies" that has been better than it's been in a few years.

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by Entertainment72

PS3 is second to none, don't believe the hype.. standalones must make up stories due to price and etc. to justify their existence.

I purchased my PS3 primarily as a BD movie player. Blu won because of the PS3.

This is silly. Do you really think that a 1000$ high end Blu-Ray player is no better than the PS3? Seriously?

Do you think that the company making it is pulling a Monster, using more expensive parts for zero reason?

[quexos]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

This is silly. Do you really think that a 1000$ high end Blu-Ray player is no better than the PS3? Seriously?

Do you think that the company making it is pulling a Monster, using more expensive parts for zero reason?

More expensive does not mean better, and sometimes it could mean downright worse. Look at all those stand alone players that were only profile 1.0 with no possibility of upgrading. Those were more expensive than the PS3 and it did not stop them from being inferior.

Now I'm sure some high end stand alone players must boast qualities but the PS3 with it's powerful graphic system for games, it's bluray player, it's multi media capabilities is too complete to not be considered by those who want to move to the world of HD

[BluGamer]

PS3 did boost Blu-ray's sales at first, but since the Blu-ray has won, it actually helped PS3. But come on, we all saw it coming. There are many companies behind Blu-ray, and it was pretty clear that HD-DVD was going to lose. Poor Toshiba was all alone.

[Chwkboy01]

I initially bought a Toshiba HD DVD but it was defective, I took it back to get the Blu Ray I wanted but the store had none in stock. I was about to get my money back when a clerk mentioned the PS3, I told him I don't play games, he told me it played Blu-Ray's.

I took a chance and don't regret it one bit.

I have about 60 blu-Rays and 500+ DVD's and it hasn't choked on me yet.
I will never play games on it and I will probably never own a stand alone Blu Ray drive. I enjoy my movies so I get the best I can afford at the time and I have no problems recommending the PS3 to anyone as a movie machine.

I don't know if the PS3 carried Blu-Ray but it certainly helped.

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by quexos

Now I'm sure some high end stand alone players must boast qualities but the PS3 with it's powerful graphic system for games, it's bluray player, it's multi media capabilities is too complete to not be considered by those who want to move to the world of HD

This isn't about value. You never buy 1000$+ hardware for value. You buy it for top end quality.

I'll repeat, does anyone believe that they are pulling a Monster?

[ToonyLoons]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

This isn't about value. You never buy 1000$+ hardware for value. You buy it for top end quality.

I'll repeat, does anyone believe that they are pulling a Monster?

I doubt that at this time there are any companies pulling a "Monster" with their Blu-ray players. They could be using better parts that boost the price but in the end do not offer any better quality to some consumers.

I do not knock the PS3 for it's capabilities and I would recommend it as a Blu-ray player and/or gaming system to anyone. I might also suggest that they do a little research and figure out what would be the best option for them whether it be a PS3 or a standalone, or even the still seemingly high priced for almost no good reason LG dual format player. The PS3 is great, but it is not for everyone.