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Old 02-15-2007, 02:37 PM   #1
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Anybody else seeing this

I am watching KOH over Toslink (PS3 with 1.51 firmware, bitstream out, DTS enabled over Toslink)

The sound decodes OK as DTS at my receiver (Yamaha HTR-5960), but for some reason the audio is ever-so-slightly behind the video (i.e. later - so DELAYING the audio - the only option at the receiver - would only make matters worse)

I have seen no such issues with my other BD titles (The Guardian, The Descent, Running With Scissors, The Departed) - but then again, this is the only title that is a) by Fox, and b) without a DD5.1 output option

I have also tried outputing PCM 2.0 over the Toslink, but that also suffers the same delay issue.

Help, advice or tales of solidarity please!

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Old 02-15-2007, 04:01 PM   #2
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i haven't seen that issue with the ps3 yet. however, whenever something like that happens a quick stop and restart, pause, or powerdown/up usually solves the problem for me.
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:07 PM   #3
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Anybody else seeing this
The only delay is with HDMI settings, provided you are watching it connected through HDMI. You can adjust the delay settings on HDMI.

Now since you are using optical, there shouldn't be any delay since this issue almost always occur with video and sound delivery via HDMI. However, you might want to give it a go under Settings.


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Old 02-15-2007, 04:45 PM   #4
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I've run Kingdom using the PS3, through HDMI (1080i) and audio going through Toslink. I've had absolutely no audio delay issues whatsoever. I have noticed that in the settings menu (PS3) there's a whack of choices for bit rates etc. If those have been played with or altered, maybe that's what's been doing it.
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Old 02-15-2007, 06:55 PM   #5
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Hi Dave,

what kind of display are you using? I'm playing KOH out over a RP 1080i CRT set, so there should be minimal or no delay on my video output stage. I've heard that some newer technologies (Plasma, LCD) can have a delay in processing the input for display, so any such video delay could minimize this problem... (since I'm hearing the audio slightly late - and I'm only talking about <100ms - possibly 50ms, hard to tell by ear!)

Out of interest, what bitrate settings are you talking about specifically and what are yours set to?
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Old 02-15-2007, 07:20 PM   #6
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I'm running HDMI to VGA into a Loewe CRT at 1080i.
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Old 02-15-2007, 07:21 PM   #7
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Oh and the bit rate settings are in the main PS3 menu under audio I believe but I'll check it tonight and make a note of where things are for you.
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Old 02-15-2007, 07:27 PM   #8
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I think I remember in some receivers and/or DVD players, there are adjustments for that kind of delay as well.
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Old 02-15-2007, 07:41 PM   #9
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cheers Dave,

I will look out for your settings, and check my setting and report them here too

btw, as for receiver delays - my Yamaha supports a delay setting, but I can only delay the audio (NOT make it earlier, which would be what is required here!)
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Old 02-16-2007, 01:48 AM   #10
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hmm,
just bought Flight of the Phoenix on BD
which is also DTS-HD
and, first impressions are that this is just A-OK for sync

now I just think the KOH disc must be off...
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I'm running HDMI to VGA into a Loewe CRT at 1080i.
Hi Dave, just curious, which Loewe do you own (Aconda, Aventos, etc.) and what is the screen size?

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Both me and my brother have watched this with no audio or video issues. Both are using the Toslink and I'm using the component for video and he uses the HDMI for video. Using a Denon AVR-3806 he has Denon AVR-3805. Also no problems with other Fox titles X3, Behind Enemy Lines, Fantastic 4, Ice Age The Melt Down. The only issue I've had is the freezing but that was taken care of by turn off network connection.
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Loewe Planus 31"
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:11 PM   #14
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Earlier Loewe sets only did 1080i through the VGA - which needed horizontal and vertical synch - like a computer gives. I took the HDMI out of the PS3, into a PureLink HDMI switcher which also has a KiSS DP-600 upconverting media player, running through it as well. From there, the HDMI output uses an adaptor to go to DVI. That DVI goes into a PureLink DVI to VGA adaptor that is HDCP compliant, then, that VGA cable runs into a Nyoya adaptor that selects between my X-box (regular box) and any VGA source. A VGA cable out of there straight into the Loewe and bingo. I change the contrast, color and brightness slightly for the X-box/Kiss combo than I have them set for the PS3 but the picture is bloody amazing from all three of those sources. You may not think it would be going through so many adaptors and cables but because all cables are very short and I picked the best adaptors, I'm VERY happy with the results. I don't get 1080p but the 1080i through the Loewe looks better than almost every 1080p LCD/plasma panel I've seen to date. If I could see a flat panel that had as good of a picture as the Loewe, I'll but it but so far, nuthin'.
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