Windows 7 Shooting For 15 Second Boot Time - Blu-ray Forum

xtop · 09-04-2008, 01:24 AM

http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/200...rformance.aspx

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Because systems and configurations differ, boot times can vary significantly. This is verified by many lab results, but can also be seen in independent analysis, such as that conducted by Ed Bott. Sample data from Ed’s population of systems found that only 35% of boots took less than 30 seconds to give control to the user. Though Ed’s data is from a small population, his data is nicely in line with what we’re observing. Windows Vista SP1 data (below) also indicates that roughly 35% of systems boot in 30 seconds or less, 75% of systems boot in 50 seconds or less.

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From our perspective, too few systems consistently boot fast enough and we have to do much better. Obviously the systems that are greater than 60 seconds have something we need to dramatically improve—whether these are devices, networking, or software issues.

my xp machine boots up fairly fast, never timed it tho. its probably about the same amount of time for my mac if i think about it tho, but the mac is pretty slow so that could be the reason there. i'm down for 15 seconds tho

i'll save everyone the trouble and say microsoft sux! booo hiss

Aaron · 09-04-2008, 01:26 AM

Leopard boots pretty fast. Takes about 20-30 seconds on my older iMac.

xtop · 09-04-2008, 01:28 AM

i think most of the slowness on my mac is the lame hard drive. otherwise it'd kick my pc's butt. haven't messed with leopard yet tho

quexos · 09-04-2008, 01:33 AM

Slow down (if I may say so) let us not take this on simple face value and wait to see. From experience and when it comes to Microsoft, what is announced and what actually end up being are usually two different things. Booting time depends on many factors and with no final version out there yet I say seeing is believing so I'll see before I believe.

AliceT · 09-04-2008, 01:38 AM

I have vista ultimate on my laptop and it boots in probably about 20 seconds. I was kind of surprised.

quexos · 09-04-2008, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AliceT

I have vista ultimate on my laptop and it boots in probably about 20 seconds. I was kind of surprised.

With all the security processes in Vista, 20 seconds ? no way unless your laptop is connected to BigBlue

You probably have a dual core so you can begin working after 20 seconds while the security processes are still loading

dialog_gvf · 09-04-2008, 01:41 AM

What is "boot time"?

My XP takes 20-30 seconds to boot, and then 3-4 minutes to login to a usuable state as everything under the sun starts up and configures. That's with a fast processor and plenty of DRAM.

Gary

xtop · 09-04-2008, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by quexos

Slow down (if I may say so) let us not take this on simple face value and wait to see. From experience and when it comes to Microsoft, what is announced and what actually end up being are usually two different things. Booting time depends on many factors and with no final version out there yet I say seeing is believing so I'll see before I believe.

which is why the thread title says "shooting for".

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Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

What is "boot time"?

My XP takes 20-30 seconds to boot, and then 3-4 minutes to login to a usuable state as everything under the sun starts up and configures. That's with a fast processor and plenty of DRAM.

Gary

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In both Ed’s sample and our telemetry data, boot time is meant to reflect when a machine is ready and responsive for the user. It includes logging in to the system and getting to a usable desktop.

Wingman1977 · 09-04-2008, 02:15 AM

Well, if they can do what they are saying, I'm all for it. I have a feeling though that the 15 have to be with certain hardware specs.

Simplayer · 09-04-2008, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

plenty of DRAM.

Gary

As opposed to all the SRAM we have on our computers?

Clark Kent · 09-04-2008, 02:46 AM

I'll believe it when I see it. Microsoft has a habit now of over promising and under delivering on their products. The real problem is that Microsoft is unwilling to cut ties with legacy products.

tron3 · 09-04-2008, 12:59 PM

Microsoft already had an Operating System which could boot in 15 seconds. It was called DOS!

Since Windows Microsoft is famous for bloat code. The hardware to run the prior Operating Systems was always 1 or 2 generations behind to get it up to speed. Even then much of it is still slower than DOS.

My next computer will probably have a Flashram storage disc, as some notebooks have today. That is the best way to bring it up to speed.

As a storage medium, hard disc drives meet the storage need, but less on speed.

Bluoholic · 09-04-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AliceT

I have vista ultimate on my laptop and it boots in probably about 20 seconds. I was kind of surprised.

What about the crap that loads on start-up?
I would love winblows to work on that part, 15 second boot or 20 doesn't really make a difference.

AliceT · 09-04-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluoholic

What about the crap that loads on start-up?
I would love winblows to work on that part, 15 second boot or 20 doesn't really make a difference.

You mean all the stuff i turned off?

jkwest · 09-04-2008, 02:36 PM

that would be great!!

My work desktop takes about 5 mins from a cold start..gives me time to go get coffee.

Bluoholic · 09-04-2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AliceT

You mean all the stuff i turned off?

OMG you are so smart!!! Can I be your number one fan?

Besides the obvious that you have to turn it off, genius, for it not to start up there is another load of shit that works underneath the coat, especially as the time goes on and you install more and more on your PC.

You're just one angry b. aren't ya?

bhampton · 09-04-2008, 03:28 PM

7 seconds I will never spend since I went mac and won't go back.

M$ will have to get by without me.

-Brian

Deadset · 09-04-2008, 03:30 PM

my xp pro boots up pretty fast too, never tried vista...

I want to say about 10-12 seconds, I'll have to time it when i get home...

Deadset · 09-04-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jkwest

that would be great!!

My work desktop takes about 5 mins from a cold start..gives me time to go get coffee.

I'm with you there, my work computer is a diff. story altogether, with all the virus and network stuff they put on it, I'm looking at 5 minutes and the pc is only 1 year old...

dpomp · 09-04-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Wingman1977

Well, if they can do what they are saying, I'm all for it. I have a feeling though that the 15 have to be with certain hardware specs.

of course it will. i'm sure it's not going to load that fast on a pentium 2 with 256Mb or RAM.

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09-04-2008, 01:26 AM	#2
Aaron Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Oklahoma City Home Theater Gallery:3 Blu-ray collection:33 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:4	Leopard boots pretty fast. Takes about 20-30 seconds on my older iMac.

09-04-2008, 01:28 AM	#3
xtop Blu-ray Count Member since:Oct 2007 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- Trading Score:3	i think most of the slowness on my mac is the lame hard drive. otherwise it'd kick my pc's butt. haven't messed with leopard yet tho

09-04-2008, 01:33 AM	#4
quexos Banned Member since:May 2007 Location:Brussels, Belgium	Slow down (if I may say so) let us not take this on simple face value and wait to see. From experience and when it comes to Microsoft, what is announced and what actually end up being are usually two different things. Booting time depends on many factors and with no final version out there yet I say seeing is believing so I'll see before I believe.

09-04-2008, 01:38 AM	#5
AliceT Banned Member since:Mar 2008 Location:PSN ID- damreg1022	I have vista ultimate on my laptop and it boots in probably about 20 seconds. I was kind of surprised.

09-04-2008, 01:41 AM	#7
dialog_gvf Moderator Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Toronto Blu-ray collection:320	What is "boot time"? My XP takes 20-30 seconds to boot, and then 3-4 minutes to login to a usuable state as everything under the sun starts up and configures. That's with a fast processor and plenty of DRAM. Gary

09-04-2008, 02:15 AM	#9
Wingman1977 Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Mar 2008 Location:The empire state Trading Score:23	Well, if they can do what they are saying, I'm all for it. I have a feeling though that the 15 have to be with certain hardware specs.

09-04-2008, 02:46 AM	#11
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	I'll believe it when I see it. Microsoft has a habit now of over promising and under delivering on their products. The real problem is that Microsoft is unwilling to cut ties with legacy products.

09-04-2008, 12:59 PM	#12
tron3 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2004 Location:New Jersey Blu-ray reviews:3	Microsoft already had an Operating System which could boot in 15 seconds. It was called DOS! Since Windows Microsoft is famous for bloat code. The hardware to run the prior Operating Systems was always 1 or 2 generations behind to get it up to speed. Even then much of it is still slower than DOS. My next computer will probably have a Flashram storage disc, as some notebooks have today. That is the best way to bring it up to speed. As a storage medium, hard disc drives meet the storage need, but less on speed.

09-04-2008, 02:36 PM	#15
jkwest Off-Topic King Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Northern California PSN Id: jkwest5 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:20	that would be great!! My work desktop takes about 5 mins from a cold start..gives me time to go get coffee.

09-04-2008, 03:28 PM	#17
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:981 Blu-ray collection:2537 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	7 seconds I will never spend since I went mac and won't go back. M$ will have to get by without me. -Brian

09-04-2008, 03:30 PM	#18
Deadset Man in the Box Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Home Theater Gallery:28 4K collection:247 Blu-ray collection:2478 DVD collection:214 iTunes collection:3 Prime collection:52 Blu-ray reviews: 14 Trading Score:34	my xp pro boots up pretty fast too, never tried vista... I want to say about 10-12 seconds, I'll have to time it when i get home...

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