dali concept 10 - Blu-ray Forum

demazi · 10-21-2008, 10:56 AM

just wondering if anyone has theses big boys or if anyone knows any pro cons bout em ill be running them off a yamaha rx-v663

Big Daddy · 10-21-2008, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demazi

just wondering if anyone has theses big boys or if anyone knows any pro cons bout em ill be running them off a yamaha rx-v663

mdabb owns Dali Helicon 800's (Tower Speakers).

MacDaddyOJack · 10-21-2008, 11:05 AM

I only know of one person here who uses Dali speakers, there may be a couple others floating around though. I can't remember the users name, but I know he doesn't have the speakers you are talking about. I think his are helicons (or something like that)

BTW, that avatar is already in use!

Edit: NM, BigDaddy has a better memory than me!

demazi · 10-22-2008, 04:46 AM

thx to all, lol damn ill look for a new one

mdabb · 10-23-2008, 12:08 AM

You might get the help you need at the "Dali owners thread". I think there is a member there who has that model.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...638394&page=57

I love my Helicons and can't imagine Dali making a bad speaker at any price level. As for powering them just check the ohm rating on the Dali's and receiver you are interested in. Mine are 4 ohms and I have the center and surround channels powered by my receiver with no problems.

sokrman14 · 10-23-2008, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by demazi

just wondering if anyone has theses big boys or if anyone knows any pro cons bout em ill be running them off a yamaha rx-v663

I doubt a RXV663 could drive Dali's well enough. You would likely need to step up to a better receiver/amp to get everything you can out of Dali speakers.

kingofgrills · 10-23-2008, 05:39 PM

I know peope who have been pleased with Dalis, but I haven't heard the Concept 10s myself. From what I've read though, you need to be careful with your room setup and speaker placement due to the dual 10" bass drivers in each speaker. If you can place them correctly, and have a good room for them, this reviewer thinks they're good all-rounders:

http://www.tnt-audio.com/casse/daliconcept10_e.html

Here's another review:

http://www.avhub.com.au/ProductRevie...ctReviewID=126

They are seriously large speakers, and adding a pair will bring 4 bass drivers into your room. The possibility for standing waves and peaks should be taken into consideration. For $2995, try finding a place with an in-home audition policy, so you can return them if they aren't a good fit for your room.

An alternative to consider...

If you want an outstanding tower speaker for the same price range, check out the Monitor Audio RS6. It has superb fit and finish, with real wood instead of simulated wood vinyl wrap. Sound wise, it offers deep, controlled bass, and extended smooth frequency ranges up to 30 kHz, so they're ideal for the extended frequencies of Blu-ray, SACD, and DVD-A.

Here they are on Monitor Audio's web site. Check out the reviews by Stereophile, which normally seems to love speakers priced around $10k and up.

http://www.monitoraudiousa.com/produ...oduct=4&area=5

If you're interested in tower speakers, don't pass them up. The finish quality is outstanding, and the sound quality will beat most comparably priced and higher priced contenders You can check them out at select Hi-Fi stores, as well as Magnolia Hi-Fi. Don't pass them up without listening to them.

JJ · 10-23-2008, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sokrman14

I doubt a RXV663 could drive Dali's well enough. You would likely need to step up to a better receiver/amp to get everything you can out of Dali speakers.

That is EXACTLY what I was going to say. Pairing Dali with a Yamaha 663 is like putting a Toyota Camry engine into a BMW M-class.

I would recommend Rotel, Marantz, the higher end Elites of Pioneer, and the 2K series from Denon AT LEAST. Separates are something you might want to consider as well.

mdabb · 10-23-2008, 07:54 PM

If the yamaha has pre-outs then it's no biggie. Everyone has to start somewhere, I know I would go with a separate amp any day of the week if he already has the receiver or is dead set on it. I doubt any receiver's internal amp is good enough power for most tower speakers anyways.

There is only one way to know if the Dali's are perfect for you and that is to bring them into your home. I am guessing a proper low end is important to you in your choice of speaker. There are other Dali models or manufacturers that will cover your needs if these ones don't work out for you.

No matter what, buy what pleases you!!!

Intamin · 10-23-2008, 08:12 PM

Ya, the 663 has pre-outs, so I'd just find an external amp and use the pre-outs. Nice looking speakers though, and I'd also look into the Monitor audio speakers as well.

Big Daddy · 10-23-2008, 09:16 PM

I was just informed that Audiophile Liquidators is not a legitimate business. Please don't order anything from them. Thanks to JJxiv1215 for informing me. Read these threads:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archi.../t-687763.html
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...t=17588&page=2.

CasualKiller · 10-23-2008, 10:28 PM

Quote:

If you want an outstanding tower speaker for the same price range, check out the Monitor Audio RS6. It has superb fit and finish, with real wood instead of simulated wood vinyl wrap. Sound wise, it offers deep, controlled bass, and extended smooth frequency ranges up to 30 kHz, so they're ideal for the extended frequencies of Blu-ray, SACD, and DVD-A.

Here they are on Monitor Audio's web site. Check out the reviews by Stereophile, which normally seems to love speakers priced around $10k and up.

Love my Monitor Audio

Driver_King · 10-23-2008, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mdabb

I doubt any receiver's internal amp is good enough power for most tower speakers anyways.

What about my Onkyo 805?

I'm going to be running some extra large 4 ohm towers in a couple weeks on it along with the rest of my speaker gang.

mdabb · 10-24-2008, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driver_King

What about my Onkyo 805?

I'm going to be running some extra large 4 ohm towers in a couple weeks on it along with the rest of my speaker gang.

Don't know how similar an 805 and a 875 are but my 875 runs cooler @ 4 ohms than at 8 ohms.

demazi · 10-24-2008, 10:34 AM

thx for all the replys boiz yeh ill be buying either the rotel rb-1080 or the emotiva XPA-3 or the XPA-5 to drive the fronts now just finding out some prices my mates cuzin works for some big hifi company dunno what its called so ill be getting some very good prices on them

demazi · 10-24-2008, 10:48 AM

hmmms the rs6 look pretty sweet i myt go have a look at the rs8's tho they sound perfect for me and cheaper then the dails rs8's only $2200(im in australia) so everything cost more here

demazi · 11-05-2008, 11:58 AM

hey quick question people now I've narrowed my speakers down to JBL ES100 or the dali concepts 10's i can get both at the same price listen to them them both and liked them both is there anything else i should look for besides mids highs britness ect...

Big Daddy · 11-05-2008, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demazi

hey quick question people now I've narrowed my speakers down to JBL ES100 or the dali concepts 10's i can get both at the same price listen to them them both and liked them both is there anything else i should look for besides mids highs britness ect...

If they both sound good to you, then I would suggest the JBL's. My main reason is that the Dali's have an Impedance of 6 Ohms and JBL's have an Impedance of 8 Ohms. Your receiver may have an easier time with the 8 Ohm speakers. It may overheat with lower impedance speakers.

demazi · 11-06-2008, 05:54 AM

yeh i know im getting a rotel rb-1080 now should be here next week and then my speakers by the end of the year

mdabb · 11-07-2008, 11:09 PM

If you have an amp coming I would get the speakers which you like best regardless of the ohm rating. Let your ears be the judge!!!

10-21-2008, 10:56 AM	#1
demazi Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Melbourne, Australia Home Theater Gallery:6	dali concept 10 just wondering if anyone has theses big boys or if anyone knows any pro cons bout em ill be running them off a yamaha rx-v663

10-23-2008, 09:16 PM	#11
Big Daddy Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Southern California Home Theater Gallery:79 Blu-ray collection:122 Trading Score:1	I was just informed that Audiophile Liquidators is not a legitimate business. Please don't order anything from them. Thanks to JJxiv1215 for informing me. Read these threads: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archi.../t-687763.html http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...t=17588&page=2. Last edited by Big Daddy; 10-23-2008 at 09:22 PM.

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10-21-2008, 11:05 AM	#3
MacDaddyOJack Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Richmond, VA PSNetwork: MacDaddyOJack Trophy Level: 12(4%) Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:71 Blu-ray reviews:23 Trading Score:4	I only know of one person here who uses Dali speakers, there may be a couple others floating around though. I can't remember the users name, but I know he doesn't have the speakers you are talking about. I think his are helicons (or something like that) BTW, that avatar is already in use! Edit: NM, BigDaddy has a better memory than me!

10-22-2008, 04:46 AM	#4
demazi Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Melbourne, Australia Home Theater Gallery:6	thx to all, lol damn ill look for a new one

10-23-2008, 12:08 AM	#5
mdabb Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Trading Score:1	You might get the help you need at the "Dali owners thread". I think there is a member there who has that model. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...638394&page=57 I love my Helicons and can't imagine Dali making a bad speaker at any price level. As for powering them just check the ohm rating on the Dali's and receiver you are interested in. Mine are 4 ohms and I have the center and surround channels powered by my receiver with no problems.

10-23-2008, 05:39 PM	#7
kingofgrills Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Dec 2007 Location:PDX Home Theater Gallery:31 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:81 Trading Score:31	I know peope who have been pleased with Dalis, but I haven't heard the Concept 10s myself. From what I've read though, you need to be careful with your room setup and speaker placement due to the dual 10" bass drivers in each speaker. If you can place them correctly, and have a good room for them, this reviewer thinks they're good all-rounders: http://www.tnt-audio.com/casse/daliconcept10_e.html Here's another review: http://www.avhub.com.au/ProductRevie...ctReviewID=126 They are seriously large speakers, and adding a pair will bring 4 bass drivers into your room. The possibility for standing waves and peaks should be taken into consideration. For $2995, try finding a place with an in-home audition policy, so you can return them if they aren't a good fit for your room. An alternative to consider... If you want an outstanding tower speaker for the same price range, check out the Monitor Audio RS6. It has superb fit and finish, with real wood instead of simulated wood vinyl wrap. Sound wise, it offers deep, controlled bass, and extended smooth frequency ranges up to 30 kHz, so they're ideal for the extended frequencies of Blu-ray, SACD, and DVD-A. Here they are on Monitor Audio's web site. Check out the reviews by Stereophile, which normally seems to love speakers priced around $10k and up. http://www.monitoraudiousa.com/produ...oduct=4&area=5 If you're interested in tower speakers, don't pass them up. The finish quality is outstanding, and the sound quality will beat most comparably priced and higher priced contenders You can check them out at select Hi-Fi stores, as well as Magnolia Hi-Fi. Don't pass them up without listening to them.

10-23-2008, 07:54 PM	#9
mdabb Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Trading Score:1	If the yamaha has pre-outs then it's no biggie. Everyone has to start somewhere, I know I would go with a separate amp any day of the week if he already has the receiver or is dead set on it. I doubt any receiver's internal amp is good enough power for most tower speakers anyways. There is only one way to know if the Dali's are perfect for you and that is to bring them into your home. I am guessing a proper low end is important to you in your choice of speaker. There are other Dali models or manufacturers that will cover your needs if these ones don't work out for you. No matter what, buy what pleases you!!!

10-23-2008, 08:12 PM	#10
Intamin Power Member Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Houston Home Theater Gallery:38 Blu-ray collection:318	Ya, the 663 has pre-outs, so I'd just find an external amp and use the pre-outs. Nice looking speakers though, and I'd also look into the Monitor audio speakers as well.

10-24-2008, 10:34 AM	#15
demazi Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Melbourne, Australia Home Theater Gallery:6	thx for all the replys boiz yeh ill be buying either the rotel rb-1080 or the emotiva XPA-3 or the XPA-5 to drive the fronts now just finding out some prices my mates cuzin works for some big hifi company dunno what its called so ill be getting some very good prices on them

10-24-2008, 10:48 AM	#16
demazi Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Melbourne, Australia Home Theater Gallery:6	hmmms the rs6 look pretty sweet i myt go have a look at the rs8's tho they sound perfect for me and cheaper then the dails rs8's only $2200(im in australia) so everything cost more here

11-05-2008, 11:58 AM	#17
demazi Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Melbourne, Australia Home Theater Gallery:6	hey quick question people now I've narrowed my speakers down to JBL ES100 or the dali concepts 10's i can get both at the same price listen to them them both and liked them both is there anything else i should look for besides mids highs britness ect...

11-06-2008, 05:54 AM	#19
demazi Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Melbourne, Australia Home Theater Gallery:6	yeh i know im getting a rotel rb-1080 now should be here next week and then my speakers by the end of the year

11-07-2008, 11:09 PM	#20
mdabb Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Trading Score:1	If you have an amp coming I would get the speakers which you like best regardless of the ohm rating. Let your ears be the judge!!!

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